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Jose Raul Capablanca vs Alexander Alekhine
"Cambridge Springs Eternal" (game of the day Nov-20-2016)
Capablanca - Alekhine World Championship Match (1927), Buenos Aires ARG, rd 7, Sep-30
Queen's Gambit Declined: Cambridge Springs Variation (D52)  ·  1-0

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Jun-29-17
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  Richard Taylor: <paavoh: @Richard Taylor: Nazi Germany occupied Estonia in 1941, so Keres was not located in Soviet Union. Indeed, Wikipedia on Keres says this:

"With the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, Estonia came under German control soon afterwards. During 1942 and 1943, Keres and Alekhine both played in four tournaments organized by Ehrhardt Post, a President of Nazi Grossdeutscher Schachbund. Alekhine won at the Salzburg 1942 chess tournament (Six Grandmasters' Tournament) in June 1942, at Munich (European Individual Chess Championship) in September 1942, and at Prague (International Tournament) in April 1943, always ahead of Keres, who placed second in all three of those tournaments. They tied for first at Salzburg (Six Grandmasters' Tournament) in June 1943, with 7½/10.">

Keres though was never considered to be a collaborator as Alekhine was. His basic honesty was never in doubt despite these vicissitudes of border changes. Pachman was able to watch Alekhine play during the war but he isn't under a cloud. Alekhine though was or is (under a cloud, but there was no trial or anything so it is still not a certainty what his real situation was).

But after the war it seemed that eventually Botvinnik was ready to play him (it had been arranged) despite the controversy. But he fell drunk and raving from a hotel window to his death and so they played the 1948 World Championships.

When I peer into the photographs of Alekhine I am sure I see the face of evil but this might be an illusion created...

We have to also consider the old saw:

'The first casualty of war is truth.'

Jun-29-17  morfishine: <Richard Taylor> There is no face of evil. Alekhine was a good fellow who soldiered on despite huge adversity. He lost his fortune not once, but twice: during WWI, then during WWII

*****

Jun-29-17  Petrosianic: Does losing your fortune make you a good person?

Alekhine wasn't a fiend, but he does seem to have been quite a Machiavellian character, and his career is still under a cloud over his Nazi collaboration.

Jun-30-17  aliejin: "Does losing your fortune make you a good person?" A stupid question of course

Lose fortune, exile, and overcome
It speaks of great merit.
Being a Nazi collaborator is a bad thing since
Current standards. Judge the behaviors
Of the past with the current standards
Is an anachronism. Another error, in which it falls Over and over again on this site

Being a Nazi at that time, among other things, meant opposing To the "communist red tide" ... something welcome By vast sectors.

There were millions and millions
Of people who honestly
They understood Nazism as a behavior
Correct. Surely (maybe not ...)
Understood their mistake with the passage of time ....

Jun-30-17  Petrosianic: <aliejin>: <"Does losing your fortune make you a good person?" A stupid question of course

Lose fortune, exile, and overcome
It speaks of great merit.>

You're confusing ethics with perseverance. You're also confusing losing the fortune with perseverance. I think we can agree that perseverance is a positive trait, but that really wasn't the question.

Jul-01-17  aliejin: Alekhine went ahead playing chess, did not commit illicit. Until the fide organized the fight for the title, Everybody did what they wanted
with its title, situation that was not something abnormal for the time.
That Alekhine was something like the "demon
Of tazmania" is only Jewish advertising.
Jul-19-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Johnnysaysthankyou: Capablanca has this almost psychic way of deceiving his opponents, of leading them astray. The positions he creates have a delusion to them. It always looks like Capablanca is losing, always looks like he is worse, but then he wins, and you scratch your head. The deception is unreal, but very very real at the same time.
Jul-19-17  sudoplatov: Speaking of losing fortunes, one should consider the fate Ossip Bernstein.
Jul-19-17  Petrosianic: Yes, Bernstein was virtuous too.
Dec-16-17  maxi: <Johnnysaysthankyou> I agree with you, but I have a comment. While it is true that Capa sometimes laid subtle positional traps (as often did Petrosian, too), Capa felt himself so strong that sometimes he made moves he knew were too aggressive and dangerous, trusting his ability to outplay his opponent. I have often pointed out positions in his games, here in CG, that are REALLY lost, but he wins anyway. Strong players often resort to this trick against weaker opposition to avoid draws.
Dec-16-17  JimNorCal: What happened to O Bernstein?
I thought he became a lawyer in order to avoid poverty as a chess player?
Dec-16-17
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  Retireborn: Bernstein was a successful lawyer in Moscow, but lost his fortune in the 1917 revolution. In the thirties he was a successful lawyer in Paris, but lost his fortune when the Nazis invaded (fled to Spain and returned to Paris after the war, according Hooper & Whyld.)
Dec-16-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: Weird. Good old Ossip plays the IBM tournament at age 78 (1961)

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wik...

Aug-24-18
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  WorstPlayerEver: 22. Qd3 was more accurate:

22. Qd3 Qe6 23. Rg1 Qxb3 24. Rd8 Qb6 25. Re8 Ke8 26. Rg7 Kf8 27. Rh7


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22. Qd3 Qe6 23. Rg1 Qf6 24. Rg3 Be6 25. Qb5


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Jun-14-19  Helios727: In Golombek's Capa book he claims that 7.cxd5 Nxd5 8.Qb3 Bb4 9.Rc1 e5, gives White no more than equality. However, if White follows with 10.dxe5 how does Black get the pawn back?
Jun-14-19  jinkinson: <whiteshark> Turns out there are sources (or at least one source) for his teeth being extracted: https://books.google.com/books?id=E...
Jun-14-19
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  beatgiant: <Helios727>
I checked the opening explorer, and nobody ever plays 10. dxe5 there. Black can probably take a lead in development with 10...Nc5, and I doubt White can safely hang onto the extra pawn for long.
Apr-28-20  joddon: 22qd2, and the rest of Capas Queen moves were so well executed, especially in stressful conditions of playing the great Alexander!!
Feb-10-21  Muttley101: Just to correct an earlier (but not recent) comment:

<But after the war it seemed that eventually Botvinnik was ready to play him [Alekhine] (it had been arranged) despite the controversy. But he fell drunk and raving from a hotel window to his death and so they played the 1948 World Championships.>

Alekhine was found dead sat in a chair in his hotel room in Estoril. A well-known photo of it exists. Possible heart failure, possible choking. As always, Edward Winter has covered it extensively:

https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

Feb-10-21  RookFile: Capa shows what a great player he was in this game. This was an open fight, chances for both sides, and he out calculates Alekhine.
Feb-10-21
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  OhioChessFan: 21...Qh3 is positionally awful. The Queen never impacts the game afterwards. Qg5/f6 has to be better. A nice diagonal with some perpetual ideas, keeps an eye on the d4 Rook and f2 Pawn.
Mar-17-21  I like ya cut g: Finally someone from 2021!
Apr-30-21  SymphonicKnight: Kasparov in MGP v.1 does not find the first two major mistakes by Alekhine that caused the loss of this game: 18...Re8? (...g6!)
24.Qxh2? (...g6!)

Kasparov does not attach question marks to either move, but does identify the relatively minor: 12...Ne4?! but does not recommend the best move, (...b6!)when the position is still equal.

May-03-21
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  beatgiant: <SymphonicKnight> I've looked at this game a bit and I'm highly skeptical Black could still equalize with 24...g6. What if White continues similar to the actual game with 24...g6 25. Qb2, then what's the follow-up plan?

As for move 18, Alekhine is a pawn down and I doubt he'd consider a less active move such as 18...g6, and it looks to me like a solid plus for White.

Aug-23-21  yurikvelo: multiPV
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24. .. g6! is draw (SF-dev + Syzygy 6; D=60 at root + self-play D>50 per move)

any other move is quick loss

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