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| Aug-01-04 | | Calli: This game was a "Living Pieces Exhibition". Therefore. the result and the moves should not be taken too seriously. |
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| Aug-02-04 | | aw1988: How is this position only slightly better for black? |
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| Nov-11-04 | | aw1988: Heh... back on Aug 2 I didn't appreciate the value of other pieces besides the queen. |
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| Dec-13-04 | | filipecea: Total Mayhem!! |
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Aug-10-07
 | | Gypsy: <Calli: This game was a "Living Pieces Exhibition". Therefore. the result and the moves should not be taken too seriously.> Right. You get a loong endgame -- and the pieces may expire before the end. |
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| Aug-10-07 | | tacite: Why not 13. ... Bxc3+? |
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| Aug-10-07 | | Nasruddin Hodja: <Sneaky: For those who thing that the Slav defense is a plodding, boring opening, this game should change your opinion.> Good point. As a general rule, every sound opening, no matter how boring its reputation, has at least one variation that is hair-raising in its tactical complexity. For the Slav, it's the 8. ... Bxe4 sacrifice line in this game. For the Petroff, it's either of the Cochrane Gambit (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nxf7?!) or the KGB Variation (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. dxe5 Bc5?! 5. Qd5?! (my own nomenclature)). No chess opening is boring provided you can find the right sacrificial line. |
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| Aug-10-07 | | soberknight: Wow. With a title "Quick to the draw" and a 22-move score, I thought chessgames.com decided to foist a grandmaster draw upon us. Far from it! This is a wild game, and I have no idea why the two world champions didn't keep on playing - exhibition or otherwise. Let me say it like this: If I had White's position against Alekhine, I haven't the faintest idea how I would hold the draw. It looks pretty hopeless, material equality notwithstanding. |
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| Aug-10-07 | | Fezzik: This game represents a minor theoretical victory for Black. Remember though, Euwe is the only player in history to win three world championship games in a row with the same variation! (Yes, he won as White and Black in the Slav against Alekhin.) |
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| Aug-10-07 | | gandu: White's mistake seems to have been 19. Kc2. 19. Bd3 seems to be a much stronger move. |
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| Aug-10-07 | | RandomVisitor: After 18...Rf7
1: Max Euwe - Alexander Alekhine, Amsterdam 1936
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up:
(20-ply)
1. (4.08): 19.Bd3 Rd7 20.Kc2 Qf2+ 21.Kc1 Rxd3 22.Qxb8+ Ke7 23.Ra3 Nc5 24.Qe5 Kd7 25.g3 Qg2 2. (3.61): 19.Be2 Nxc3+ 20.Kc2 Nxe2 21.Rad1+ Ke7 22.Qxa7+ Kf6 23.Qxf7+ Kxf7 24.Rhf1 Ke8 25.Rxf4 Nxf4 3. (2.49): 19.Rc1 Nc5 20.Rc2 Rd7+ 21.Rd2 Rxd2+ 22.Nxd2 Qxa4+ 23.Ke1 Kc8 24.h3 Qa3 25.Ke2 Ncd7 4. (2.12): 19.Rb1 Nxc3+ 20.Kc2 Nxb1 21.Kxb1 Rd7 22.Nb2 Rd2 23.Bc4 Ke7 24.Qxa7+ Nd7 25.Nd3 Qxc4 |
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| Aug-10-07 | | psmith: <tacite> According to Fritz 5.32, 13... Bxc3 leads to equality after 14. bxc3 Qxc3+ 15. Ke2 Qc2+ |
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| Aug-10-07 | | psmith: <qandu>, <RandomVisitor>: If 19. Kc2 was White's mistake, perhaps 15...Qf4 was Black's. Fritz 5.32 thinks 15...Qc5 is better and leads to slight Black advantage after 16. Qxb7 Nd7 17. Qxa8+ Kc7 18. Qxf8 Qxf8 What does Rybka think? |
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| Aug-10-07 | | tacite: <psmith> : Thanks. I see now. Does it mean that the position was to be draw that early in the game? |
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| Aug-10-07 | | melv: What is living pieces exhibition? |
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| Aug-10-07 | | kevin86: Could this have been the beginning of the end of the title run for Euwe? He had captured the championship in a squeaker match in 1935-and was badly beaten in 1937. Later in the title tournament of 1948,he finished a poor last place. |
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| Aug-10-07 | | Fezzik: @melv: The game was played on a lawn with humans dressed up as chess players. This is a chessic equivalent of a "friendly" in soccer/football. |
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Aug-10-07
 | | playground player: Why in the world was this a draw? I wonder what would happen if the chess authorities decided to score a draw MINUS 1/2 each... |
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Aug-10-07
 | | technical draw: <pp> Nice idea. I have heard a lot of ideas to rid the chess world of draws but this is the first time I've heard yours. The problem is you don't want to penalise true fighting draws. |
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| Aug-10-07 | | Nasruddin Hodja: <playground player>: I think you're on the right track, but there are some problems. The most important of which is that it would destroy endgame theory--most endgames clearly have one player trying to win and another trying to hold the draw, which is as it should be. But with your scoring system, the defending player would clearly be better off resigning. My own proposal to end grandmaster draws is simple: (1) draw offers are prohibited; games only end with resignation, checkmate, stalemate or when one player claims threefold repetition, insufficient mating material, or the 50-move rule, and (2) if the game ends in a draw, each player receives 0.01 point for every move played, to a maximum of 0.50. This would penalize players whose games end prematurely with a prearranged perpetual check sequence. It would also penalize players who trade off their pieces too quickly into a drawn endgame, which is all to the good. Of course, even if a proposal similar to the above is not adopted, we can always reduce the proportion of grandmaster draws by following one simple guideline: if your name is Ulf Andersson or Zoltan Ribli, you don't get invited to tournaments, period ;-) |
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| Aug-10-07 | | RandomVisitor: Black might have chosen to play on: after 22...Nxb7 1: Max Euwe - Alexander Alekhine, Amsterdam 1936
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up:
(23-ply)
1. (-0.78): 23.Rd1+ Nd7 24.Bd3 Nbc5 25.Rhf1 Qxg2 26.Rf7 Qxh2 27.Rxh7 Qg3 28.Nb2 Qe5 29.c4 Kc7 2. (-0.80): 23.Bd3 Nd7 24.Rad1 Nbc5 25.Rhf1 Qxg2 26.Rf7 Qxh2 27.Rxh7 Qg3 28.Nb2 Qe5 29.c4 Kc7 3. (-0.88): 23.Rc1 Nc5 24.Nb2 Kc7 25.Bc4 Qxg2 26.Nd3 Qe4 27.Nxc5 Qxc4 28.Nb3 Nd7 29.Rhg1 Qf4 |
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| Aug-10-07 | | Fezzik: Hmm, Rybka at 23-ply (about 11.5 moves) says that the difference is less than a pawn. I think two of the best players of the era did a pretty darned good job of playing an entertaining game and reaching a fairly level position before agreeing to the draw. |
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Sep-28-15
 | | Richard Taylor: Yes, a fascinating game. The opening is more or less still current although there are other moves than 6. ... e6. But there are some more recent games with that. The other lines involve complex play also with say 6. ... Qc7 etc which I think Morozevich played or was it 6....Nbd7. There are a number of games on the OE... |
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| Dec-31-20 | | Straclonoor: <After 18...Rf7>
Some update of old analysis
Analysis by Stockfish 051020:
1. +- (7.32): 19.Bd3 Rd7 20.Kc2 Qf2+ 21.Kc1 Rxd3 22.Qxb8+ Ke7 23.Ra3 Nc5 24.Qe5 Kd7 25.Qg7+ Kc8 26.Kb1 Qf4 27.Na5 Qd6 28.Qh8+ Qd8 29.Qxd8+ Kxd8 30.Kc2 Re3 31.Rd1+ Kc7 32.Nb3 Ne4 33.Nd4 Nc5 34.Rf1 Re4 35.a5 Kd6 36.Rd1 Kc7 37.Rd2 Re1 38.Nf3 Re4 39.h3 Re3 40.Nd4 Rg3 41.a6 Kb6 2. +- (6.72): 19.Be2 Nxc3+ 20.Kc2 Nxe2 21.Rad1+ Ke7 22.Qxa7+ Kf6 23.Qxf7+ Kxf7 24.Rhf1 e5 25.Rxf4+ Nxf4 26.a5 Nd5 27.Nxe5+ Ke7 28.Nc4 Ke6 29.Re1+ Kd7 30.Rf1 c5 31.Rf5 Nb4+ 32.Kb3 N4c6 33.Rh5 Ke6 34.Rh6+ Kf5 35.Rxh7 Ke4 36.Kc3 Nxa5 37.Nxa5 Ke3 38.Kc4 Kf2 |
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| Aug-25-22 | | Olavi: I see this game has been analyzed in earnest. These games were usually composed beforehand. But there are exceptions, Kasparov vs Timman, 1999 was a real game. |
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