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Alexander Alekhine vs Max Euwe
"Dutch Oven" (game of the day Oct-22-2008)
Euwe - Alekhine World Championship Rematch (1937), Haarlem NED, rd 6, Oct-16
Slav Defense: Slav Gambit. Alekhine Attack (D10)  ·  1-0

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Oct-22-08  MrMelad: Hello all,

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Euwe

<Dr Max Euwe was born in Watergraafsmeer, near Amsterdam into a Jewish family>

I am really not trying to suggest that someone intended to pun about a Nazi putting a Jew in an oven in 1937, but this is what happened, and I can't imagine I am the only one to notice that.

But then again if so, and I am really the only one then apologies to everyone for bringing that up.

Oct-22-08  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Even Alekhine's quotes include word "drunk" as in:

<The fact that a player is very short of time is, to my mind, as little to be considered an excuse as, for instance, the statement of the law-breaker that he was drunk at the time he committed the crime. --- Alexander Alekhine >

Oct-22-08  Chessmensch: Thanks <dabearsrock1010> but somehow I don't think that's what Chessgames meant :-)

<MrMelad> I'm even more certain that's not what Chessgames meant either.

Jan-07-09  TheChessGuy: White wins the exchange here. A nice finish!
May-30-09  WhiteRook48: a brilliant game!!!
May-31-09  I Like Fish: euwe cooked...
in a quick oven...
Sep-15-10  shakespeare: I dont like this opening - maybe black is completely underdeveloped after 6. Nf3 - but a knight is a knight - so dxc3 and black has a good advantage best continuation Bxf7 Ke7 Qb3 Nf6
Feb-24-11  lightbishop c5e6: Hmm, I went as far as 6... dxc3 7. Bxf7+ Ke7 8.Bg5+ Nf6 9.Qb3 threatening e5 to get the piece back with advantage, and if 9... h6, then 10. Ne5. Any flaw in this may I ask?
Oct-26-11  kasparvez: Alekhine writes: "My 'chief' variation was the following: 6...dxc3 7.Bxf7+ Ke7 8.Qb3 Nf6 9.e5 Ne4 10.0-0! Qb6 11. Qc4! cxb2 12.Bxb2 Qxb2 13.Qxe4 Kxf7 14.Ng5+ Ke8 15.Qc4 Be7 16.Qf7+ Kd8 17. Rad1+ Bd7 18.Ne6+ Kc8 19.Qxe7 Qxe5 20.Rfe1 Qf6 21.Rxd7 Qxe7 22.Rxe7 with a won position.

...But then, instead of 8...Nf6 Black could play 8...cxb2! 9.Bxb2 Qb6! 10.Bxg8 Rxg8 11.Qxg8 Qb4+ 12.Nd2 Qxb2, after which his middlegame prospects should be estimated decidedly higher than White's."

Jan-03-12  King.Arthur.Brazil: On the tactical variation 8...cxb2! 9.Bxb2 Qb6! instead of capturing the Ng8 and lose the powerful light square B with 10.Bxg8, I preferred to continue the king attack by 10.Ba3+ then:(1)Kf6?? 11.e5+ Kf5 12.Qd3+ Kf4 13.Bc1+ Kg4 14.Qe4++ (some mate with 12... Kg4 directly). (2)Kd8 (is forced!) 11.Td1+ Nd7 (or Bd7)12.Bxf8 and white has 3 treats: Bxg7 (win the R or quality) Qe6 (with Qe8+ and Bd6+) and Ne5...(meaning Nxd7...Txd7+... Qe6+)thus black lose material, position, game! I can't believe nobody had seen this Ba3+ powerful attack. Maybe, Kasparov did!
Jan-03-12  King.Arthur.Brazil: Let's see AA ending of the game: 20.b4! (try to capture the rook with a4) 20...Rd8 (ME answered if a4? Rxf5 ... Rxd6 win B+N by R)21.Rd1 (defends the Bd6, treats a4 again)21...c5 (now if 22.a4, Rxb4) 22.bxc5 Bxc5 (forced) 23.Rd5!Black lost a R! If Rc8 (to defend the Bc5) Bxc5 ... Nd6+ win the R on c8 or b5, as the Nh5 will be captured by Rd5.The less worst: 23... Kd6 (Not 24. Bxc5? Rxd5)24. Rxc5 (if Rxd6 Rxb5) Rxc5 25. Bxc5 win a B "only". Sure black has no scape!
Jan-19-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Mr. Melad> No Nazis put anyone in ovens in 1937. Also, Cg.com is not going to change this pun.

In Canada, you make a "Dutch Oven" by pulling the sheets tightly over your boyfriend's head, farting, and then tightly holding the sheets down so he can't escape.

Jan-19-12  Shams: <In Canada, you make a "Dutch Oven" by pulling the sheets tightly over your boyfriend's head, farting, and then tightly holding the sheets down so he can't escape.>

Amazingly, immigration applications to Canada remain at peak levels.

Jan-19-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: This game was played in the "Great Concert Hall" in <Haarlem>.

<Haarlem> in the 1930s: http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/pict...

<Eliskases> on the Great Concert Hall:

"The acoustics are excellent, which means: bad for a chess game. Every sound can be heard on the stage. The audience produces so much noise that it is impossible for the players to play."

-"Max Euwe- the biography"
Alexander Munninghoff, p. 206

Jan-19-12  aliejin: "it is impossible for the players to play."
It seems that alekhine could play ....
Jan-19-12  King Death: < jessicafischerqueen: ...In Canada, you make a "Dutch Oven" by pulling the sheets tightly over your boyfriend's head, farting, and then tightly holding the sheets down so he can't escape.>

That's one to remember.

Jan-19-12
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  TheFocus: <jess> YOU fart??

Please step down from that pedestal, ma'am!

Poor Richard.

Dec-09-12  SaVVy66: Alekhine is my greatest inspiration of chess.. nor anand carlsen or ANY other world player can beat alekhine of 1937..!
Feb-03-13  cristoff: splendid game played by master magician A Alekhine genius
Jul-10-14
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  Honza Cervenka: 6.Nf3!!? is the move, which won not only this game but whole match.
Jul-10-14  WDenayer: The quote that Melad gives is not there: there is no mention in the wiki article of Euwe being Jewish. This is because Euwe was not Jewish. I do not see why Melad has to fabricate a quote from Wiki. I am not impressed.
Oct-22-18
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  kbob: To echo Kasparvez, this line crops up from time to time, but it does not seem to have survived Alekhine's own post mortem among serious players. I personally think Euwe "choked" and did not consider 7. Nxb5 at all.
Oct-22-18  RookFile: The middle game actually reminds you a little of this one:

Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858

Jun-25-20  Albion 1959: I recall in Alekhine's best games, this game was featured. I saw this back in 1979 and have never seen another copy of this book. It said that Alekhine's brilliant sacrifice was actually unsound. Euwe played the worst possible way to deal with it over the board. This book also said that there was a refute it! I can't recall the exact details, but from what I can remember from more than 40 years ago, Euwe should have accepted this. 6. Nf3 dxc
7. Qb3 Qe7
White has open lines for the pieces, but not enough, black does have defensive resources to refute the sacrifice. Maybe (in the age of search engines and computers) improvements can be found for both sides ?
Jun-25-20
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  beatgiant: <Albion 1959>
You need to check out previous kibitzing here. The main line starts with 6. Nf3 dxc3 <7. Bxf7+> Ke7 8. Qb3, Alekhine's refutation goes 8...cxb2 9. Bxb2 Qb6, and <King.Arthur.Brazil> tried to revive the line with 10. Ba3+, although he does not analyze 10...c5 which seems to leave Black on top.
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