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Alexander Alekhine vs Max Euwe
"Dutch Oven" (game of the day Oct-22-2008)
Euwe - Alekhine World Championship Rematch (1937), Haarlem NED, rd 6, Oct-16
Slav Defense: Slav Gambit. Alekhine Attack (D10)  ·  1-0



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Oct-22-08  dakgootje: <Chessmensch> The pun doesn't get much clearer if you know that information though... So far I find JohnBoy's explanation of Euwe getting cooked best... but that's mainly for it's the only explanation so far :P
Oct-22-08  dabearsrock1010: <chessmensch> that's not really what a dutch oven is. Here is a more credible source.
Oct-22-08  MrMelad: Hello all,


<Dr Max Euwe was born in Watergraafsmeer, near Amsterdam into a Jewish family>

I am really not trying to suggest that someone intended to pun about a Nazi putting a Jew in an oven in 1937, but this is what happened, and I can't imagine I am the only one to notice that.

But then again if so, and I am really the only one then apologies to everyone for bringing that up.

Oct-22-08  Autoreparaturwerkbau: Even Alekhine's quotes include word "drunk" as in:

<The fact that a player is very short of time is, to my mind, as little to be considered an excuse as, for instance, the statement of the law-breaker that he was drunk at the time he committed the crime. --- Alexander Alekhine >

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  Chessmensch: Thanks <dabearsrock1010> but somehow I don't think that's what Chessgames meant :-)

<MrMelad> I'm even more certain that's not what Chessgames meant either.

Jan-07-09  TheChessGuy: White wins the exchange here. A nice finish!
May-30-09  WhiteRook48: a brilliant game!!!
May-31-09  I Like Fish: euwe cooked...
in a quick oven...
Sep-15-10  shakespeare: I dont like this opening - maybe black is completely underdeveloped after 6. Nf3 - but a knight is a knight - so dxc3 and black has a good advantage best continuation Bxf7 Ke7 Qb3 Nf6
Feb-24-11  lightbishop c5e6: Hmm, I went as far as 6... dxc3 7. Bxf7+ Ke7 8.Bg5+ Nf6 9.Qb3 threatening e5 to get the piece back with advantage, and if 9... h6, then 10. Ne5. Any flaw in this may I ask?
Oct-26-11  kasparvez: Alekhine writes: "My 'chief' variation was the following: 6...dxc3 7.Bxf7+ Ke7 8.Qb3 Nf6 9.e5 Ne4 10.0-0! Qb6 11. Qc4! cxb2 12.Bxb2 Qxb2 13.Qxe4 Kxf7 14.Ng5+ Ke8 15.Qc4 Be7 16.Qf7+ Kd8 17. Rad1+ Bd7 18.Ne6+ Kc8 19.Qxe7 Qxe5 20.Rfe1 Qf6 21.Rxd7 Qxe7 22.Rxe7 with a won position.

...But then, instead of 8...Nf6 Black could play 8...cxb2! 9.Bxb2 Qb6! 10.Bxg8 Rxg8 11.Qxg8 Qb4+ 12.Nd2 Qxb2, after which his middlegame prospects should be estimated decidedly higher than White's."

Jan-03-12  King.Arthur.Brazil: On the tactical variation 8...cxb2! 9.Bxb2 Qb6! instead of capturing the Ng8 and lose the powerful light square B with 10.Bxg8, I preferred to continue the king attack by 10.Ba3+ then:(1)Kf6?? 11.e5+ Kf5 12.Qd3+ Kf4 13.Bc1+ Kg4 14.Qe4++ (some mate with 12... Kg4 directly). (2)Kd8 (is forced!) 11.Td1+ Nd7 (or Bd7)12.Bxf8 and white has 3 treats: Bxg7 (win the R or quality) Qe6 (with Qe8+ and Bd6+) and Ne5...(meaning Nxd7...Txd7+... Qe6+)thus black lose material, position, game! I can't believe nobody had seen this Ba3+ powerful attack. Maybe, Kasparov did!
Jan-03-12  King.Arthur.Brazil: Let's see AA ending of the game: 20.b4! (try to capture the rook with a4) 20...Rd8 (ME answered if a4? Rxf5 ... Rxd6 win B+N by R)21.Rd1 (defends the Bd6, treats a4 again)21...c5 (now if 22.a4, Rxb4) 22.bxc5 Bxc5 (forced) 23.Rd5!Black lost a R! If Rc8 (to defend the Bc5) Bxc5 ... Nd6+ win the R on c8 or b5, as the Nh5 will be captured by Rd5.The less worst: 23... Kd6 (Not 24. Bxc5? Rxd5)24. Rxc5 (if Rxd6 Rxb5) Rxc5 25. Bxc5 win a B "only". Sure black has no scape!
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Mr. Melad> No Nazis put anyone in ovens in 1937. Also, is not going to change this pun.

In Canada, you make a "Dutch Oven" by pulling the sheets tightly over your boyfriend's head, farting, and then tightly holding the sheets down so he can't escape.

Jan-19-12  Shams: <In Canada, you make a "Dutch Oven" by pulling the sheets tightly over your boyfriend's head, farting, and then tightly holding the sheets down so he can't escape.>

Amazingly, immigration applications to Canada remain at peak levels.

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  jessicafischerqueen: This game was played in the "Great Concert Hall" in <Haarlem>.

<Haarlem> in the 1930s:

<Eliskases> on the Great Concert Hall:

"The acoustics are excellent, which means: bad for a chess game. Every sound can be heard on the stage. The audience produces so much noise that it is impossible for the players to play."

-"Max Euwe- the biography"
Alexander Munninghoff, p. 206

Jan-19-12  aliejin: "it is impossible for the players to play."
It seems that alekhine could play ....
Jan-19-12  King Death: < jessicafischerqueen: ...In Canada, you make a "Dutch Oven" by pulling the sheets tightly over your boyfriend's head, farting, and then tightly holding the sheets down so he can't escape.>

That's one to remember.

Jan-19-12  TheFocus: <jess> YOU fart??

Please step down from that pedestal, ma'am!

Poor Richard.

Dec-09-12  SaVVy66: Alekhine is my greatest inspiration of chess.. nor anand carlsen or ANY other world player can beat alekhine of 1937..!
Feb-03-13  cristoff: splendid game played by master magician A Alekhine genius
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  Honza Cervenka: 6.Nf3!!? is the move, which won not only this game but whole match.
Jul-10-14  WDenayer: The quote that Melad gives is not there: there is no mention in the wiki article of Euwe being Jewish. This is because Euwe was not Jewish. I do not see why Melad has to fabricate a quote from Wiki. I am not impressed.
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  kbob: To echo Kasparvez, this line crops up from time to time, but it does not seem to have survived Alekhine's own post mortem among serious players. I personally think Euwe "choked" and did not consider 7. Nxb5 at all.
Oct-22-18  RookFile: The middle game actually reminds you a little of this one:

Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858

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