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| May-07-16 | | sfm: The last move is picking up at least two pieces. A good time to resign! |
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| May-07-16 | | diagonalley: <al wazir> ... yep, the third move is indeed beyond most muggles... (i generally give up as soon as i note that Tal is at the board) |
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| May-07-16 | | stacase: Always nice to get the first two moves on a Saturday. |
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| May-07-16 | | not not: Nf7 takes a pawn and lines king with his rook, then comes Bg6 check to take his rook, once king moved the point seems to be: black cannot retake with queen after rook capture, due to knight fork on c7 Knight f7 was my first thought, but it took me ages to find Bishop g6 check; only when I saw other knight eyeing c7 square with fork threat I found it at last |
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| May-07-16 | | not not: no, I haven't found it, alas
why he goes 19 knight c7 not bishop takes rook? I asked myself but now I see, knight retakes bishop not queen, no queen fork difficult tactics indeed |
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May-07-16
 | | agb2002: The material is identical.
Black threatens 17... Nxd3.
The squares c7 and f7 look very weak and the rook on a8 is defenseless. These details suggest 17.Nxf7: A) 17... Kxf7 18.Bg6+
A.1) 18... Ke7 19.Qxc5+ Kd7 (19... Ke6 20.Nc7+ is crushing) 20.Bf5+ Re6 21.Bxe6+ Kxe6 22.Nc7+ Kd7 23.Qc2 with decisive material advantage, at least an exchange and a pawn. A.2) 18... Ke6 19.Nc7+ Ke7 20.Qxc5+ Qd6 21.Qxd6#.
A.3) 18... Kg8 19.Bxe8 Qxe8 20.Nc7 seems to win decisive material. For example, 20... Qd8 21.Nxa8 Bd6 22.Bxd6 Qxd6 23.Rac1 b6 24.b4, etc. B) 17... Qd7 18.Ne5 wins a pawn with a much better position. C) 17... Qe7 18.Bg6 wins a pawn with many threats (Nc7, Nbd6, Bd6, etc.). |
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| May-07-16 | | Razgriz: I got the first 3 moves but the continuation got a bit too difficult at times |
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| May-07-16 | | Bratek: I saw the first three moves with the knight fork quite quickly but I did not see 23.B:e4.The lust move is very cute because it is picking two pieces.If black goes 37....Qg4 38.g:h3 39.Qe6 defending the knight, white plays 38....Re5 and the knight is lost. |
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| May-07-16 | | morfishine: Black gets overrun by Cossacks
First <17.Nxf7> 17...Kxf7 18.Bg6+ then the remaining cavalry charges in ***** |
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| May-07-16 | | thegoodanarchist: The big surprise for me is 23.Bxe4 and Tal lets his queen go. |
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May-07-16
 | | catlover: In the late-week puzzles, I'm happy if I can at least see the initial moves. Seeing all the variations and sub-variations is usually beyond me. |
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| May-07-16 | | RandomVisitor: 19...Nce4 might be worth a try for black |
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| May-07-16 | | mel gibson: I got the first 5 plies & when I tried it on the computer it did the same but after quite a while white was only 1 point up.
This game is almost a draw. |
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| May-07-16 | | Patriot: The first thing I do on these is count material and take stock of weak squares and other factors that may lend themselves to tactics. The c7 square, not just the knight's attack on it, but also the x-ray of the g3-bishop to that square really stood out. Plus there was the weak f7 square and the queen-bishop battery. But I didn't just go with Nxf7; I first looked at Nc7 to see if there was a winning discovered attack on the queen after ...Qxc7. But 17.Nc7 Qxc7 18.Ng6 Qxg3 19.fxg3 fxg6 is comical but perhaps 18...Qc6 is best. But really I only looked at the first line and didn't see the point of looking at the original 17.Nc7 any further. 17.Nxf7 Kxf7 18.Bg6+ made much more sense. 18...Kg8 and white could go with either 19.Bxe8 Qxe8 20.Nc7 or 19.Nc7 right away. There is also the dangerous looking 18...Ke7 or 18...Ke6 but that is insane. 18...Ke7 allows 19.Qxc5+ with impunity so I didn't look further at that kind of crazy stuff. It's more than enough to decide on 17.Nxf7. |
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May-07-16
 | | kevin86: Another Tal party of sacrifice. |
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| May-07-16 | | Longview: <catlover> I am in the same boat. I was glad to see the initial move and follow up to 18....Kg8 all of which was logical. What I missed was what <Patriot> points out in his analysis, i.e. the x-ray attack on C7 square which really allows the 19. Nc7 fork. I had only imagined going to 19.Bxe8 Qxe8 and being even points on my exchange of N/p and B/R. I missed the fork (one of my two major vision blocks, pins being the other). As I played through the rest of the game, the 20...Rc6 showed strength that I did not see either. Rook having the opportunity for a discovered attack on the white Q. But at 22....Ne4 attacking the dark squared bishop on g3 and the white Q by discovered attack seemed to be a winner and yet Tal turned the table by keeping the bishop and sacrificing the queen. I would have been Qd1 ultimately with a light square bishop, a rook and Q against 2 bishops, N, R and Q. So Tal keeps his 2 bishops, eliminates Adantio's last R and fights on with two R vs Q. Tal finishes by removing the guard or attacking the overloaded Queen (not sure if it is one or both) to take the light squared bishop and resignation followed. |
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| May-07-16 | | Patriot: Thanks <Longview>. It seems that so many tactics arise from x-rays of pieces. I consider it a "seed of tactical destruction" as Dan Heisman calls it--factors that indicate tactics may exist (but not always). If the seeds aren't there, there is no use to spending the time looking for them. |
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| May-07-16 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I don't know if I had seen this game before, but I see imediately 17.Nxf7 (who is the white player? Obviously, if is Tahl, there must be a sacrifice, no doubt!) Kxf7 18.Sg6+ Kg8 I saw 19.Nc7 from the beggining, but I liked 19.Bxe8 first, waiting for Nxe8, 20. Nc7 and 21.Nxa8, double quality... lgs).19.Nc7. From this point up, I follow the black answers with my moves being compared to those of Tahl. I would not play Rfc1, I chose Qe2. I follow the line 22.Nc7 Ne5 23.Bxe5 Rxc2 24.Bxc2 (in this case, I will take with the R, and to take a rook to c1, I chose the other Rac1, first (even if white would lose the game). I' d take Bf8 instead of Nd4 (which I recognize now as best). Maybe Rd1, recognizes that the Rac1 was best then played Rfc1, even, in the case of capture, Rc2 allow Rad1, which still is best. Tahl lose two steps (times) allowing black reorganize some resistance. I didn't see Rd5, played Bxd5 which is a bad move that permited Qg6. Again 36.Bc2! is superior to my 36.Bg3 which could be followed by Nxg3 37.gxh3 Bxe3+ 38.Kh2... maybe black have more chances than in the game. After Qe7 38. gxh3, black cannot avoid the white rooks to enter (Rd8, Rd7) and escape from Ne4 pin at the same time. The tactical and positional Tahl in the same game is always the worst thing to face when he is your opponent. |
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| May-07-16 | | RandomVisitor: 17.Nxf7 Kxf7 18.Bg6+ Kg8 19.Nc7 and with the better continuation 19...Nce4 there are more fireworks
click for larger viewKomodo-9.42-64bit:
<+0.63/41 19...Nce4 20.Nxa8 Nxg3 21.fxg3 Rxe3 22.Nc7 Bxh3 23.Rxf6 gxf6 24.gxh3 Rxg3+ 25.Kh1 Rxh3+> 26.Kg2 Re3 27.Rf1 Kh8 28.Qf2 Re5 29.Qxf6+ Qxf6 30.Rxf6 Kg7 31.Rf7+ Kxg6 32.Rxf8 d4 33.Kf3 Re3+ 34.Kf2 Re5 35.Rg8+ Kf5 36.Rb8 b6 37.a4 Ke4 38.Nb5 a6 39.Nd6+ Kd5 40.Rd8 Kc5 41.Kf3 Re3+ 42.Kf4 Re2 43.Ne4+ Kc4 44.Ke5 d3 45.Rd4+ Kb3 46.Rxd3+ Kxa4 47.b3+ Kb4 48.Kf5 Rb2 49.Rd6 Rxb3 50.Nd2 Re3 +0.83/41 19...Be6 20.Bxe8 Nxe8 21.Nxa8 a5 22.b3 Qxa8 23.Rac1 Qd8 24.f3 Bf7 25.Rfd1 Qf6 26.Qd2 Qg6 27.Bh2 b6 28.Kh1 Be7 29.Qc3 Bf8 30.Qd4 Nf6 31.Rd2 Qf5 32.Qe5 Qc8 33.Rdd1 Qc6 34.Qc3 Qe8 35.Be5 Nfd7 36.Bd4 Nb8 37.a3 Nc6 38.b4 Nxd4 39.exd4 Na4 40.Qc8 axb4 41.axb4 Qe2 42.Qc2 Qa6 43.g4 Be8 |
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| May-07-16 | | crwynn: I'm not sure if i'm missing something, as everyone is suggesting 19.bxe8?? Qxe8?? 20.nc7, and someone even gave 19.bxe8?? nxe8 20.nc7?? After retaking on e8 with the nf6, black is defending c7. The point of the combination is basically to win a pawn & 2 rooks for 3 pieces (which is a winning advantage in this open position), using the fact that the bg3 prevents black from saving his qr with rb8. Only Tal's move-order works. |
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May-07-16
 | | keypusher: <crwynn>. Nice to see you! |
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| May-07-16 | | jindraz: Komodo writes a letter to Tal: a cool sac bro, but do you know that if you played calmly, your advantage would have been quite a bit more significant than after all those fireworks? And we both know that you did not see one half of the tricks that you needed to even stay alive after that sac. Tal was a machine for turning coffee, nicotine, morphine, and alcohol to chess combinations. Hausner is telling me that one morning he and a friend had to drag Tal from a bar to the game...he spent the whole night there, could not stand or write, but he won the game |
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| May-07-16 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: What I missed is that after ... Rb8, Nxe8 discovers an attack on the surviving rook. |
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| May-15-16 | | crwynn: Thanks, never really left just very sporadic with comments |
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| Oct-06-18 | | luhur: mrongos kenek kombi ne tal :p |
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sac: 17.Nxf7