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Andras Adorjan vs Michael John Basman
Hastings (1973/74), Hastings ENG, rd 10, Jan-06
Sicilian Defense: Kan. Knight Variation (B43)  ·  0-1

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Jul-30-06  thathwamasi: I was so close but so far...nice one..
Jul-30-06  RandomVisitor: 31.Qd3 looks better for white
Jul-30-06  RandomVisitor: 28...Nd3 29.Rd1 Bxf2+ may have been more precise.
Jul-30-06
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  Sneaky: This one's kind of weird--the sacrifice has already taken place when you're asked to decide how to continue. And there are three really nice juicy looking checks begging to be played! I have a hunch there must be more than one way to win this position, but Qa7 at some point is key.
Jul-30-06  RandomVisitor: 29...Ng4 30.Ke1 Qa7+ seems to transpose into the main line 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Ng4
Jul-30-06  dwojiow: I looked and I looked. What is wrong with the straightforward 29...Nd3+ and 30...Nxc1? Surely Black is completely winning.
Jul-30-06  RandomVisitor: 19-ply analysis
1: Adorjan Andras (HUN) - Basman Michael J (ENG), Hastings (England) 1973


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Analysis by Rybka 2.1c mp:

1. (-1.13): 29...Nd3+ 30.Ke3 Nxc1 31.Qxc1 Qa7+ 32.Kd2 Rc8 33.Bh3 f5 34.Nd4 Rd8 35.Kc2 Rxd4 36.Qe3

2. (-0.94): 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Ng4 31.Qd3 Rxc3 32.Qd8+ Kf7 33.Rxc3 Qf2+ 34.Kd2 Qxe2+ 35.Kc1 Ne5 36.Qd2

3. (-0.94): 29...Ng4+ 30.Ke1 Qa7 31.Qd3 Rxc3 32.Qd8+ Kf7 33.Rxc3 Qf2+ 34.Kd2 Qxe2+ 35.Kc1 Ne5 36.Qd2

(, 30.07.2006)

Jul-30-06  makaveli52: i saw the straight forward nd3+ Ke3 Nxc1 Qxc1 Qa7+, but decided it was too simple for a sunday so quit analyzing completly. Decided on Qd3, is there a refutation to that?
Jul-30-06
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  Sneaky: <29...Ng4+ 30.Ke1 Qa7 seems to transpose into the main line 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Ng4> Maybe Qa7+ is more accurate because that way you don't need to bother calculating 29...Ng4+ 30.Kf3?!
Jul-30-06
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  Sneaky: <dwojiow: I looked and I looked. What is wrong with the straightforward 29...Nd3+ and 30...Nxc1? Surely Black is completely winning.> I don't think it's that easy. 29...Nd3+ 30.Ke3 Nxc1 31.Qxc1


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White is up a piece here so Black needs some kind of knock-out and I don't see it.

Jul-30-06  RandomVisitor: 21-ply analysis
1: Adorjan Andras (HUN) - Basman Michael J (ENG), Hastings (England) 1973


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Analysis by Rybka 2.1c mp:

1. (-1.23): 29...Nd3+ 30.Ke3 Nxc1 31.Qxc1 Qa7+ 32.Kd2 Rc8 33.Bh3 f5 34.Nd4 Rd8 35.Kc2 Rxd4 36.Qe3

2. (-1.09): 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Rc8 31.Qd2 Nd3+ 32.Kd1 Nxc1 33.Nxc1 Rxc3 34.Qxc3 Qg1+ 35.Qe1 Qxg2 36.Qxa5

3. (-0.92): 29...Ng4+ 30.Ke1 Qa7 31.Qd3 Rxc3 32.Qd8+ Kf7 33.Rxc3 Qf2+ 34.Kd2 Qxe2+ 35.Kc1 Ne5 36.Qd2

(, 30.07.2006)

Jul-30-06  dzechiel: I stared at this for a long time and came up with 29...Qa7+, but I wanted to answer 30 Ke1 with ...Qe3, threatening ...Rxc3. I don't know if that's sound, but that's where I was going.
Jul-30-06
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  al wazir: I had 29...Ng4+ and 30...Qa7, but not the whole continuation.

Given that I saw the basic idea and found part of the solution right off, and given that there are multiple alternative paths to a win, I would say that this was easier than yesterday's. Much easier.

Jul-30-06  aazqua: This opening by white is obscene. Piker.
Jul-30-06  percyblakeney: I actually chose the line played in the game, not often that happens on a Sunday, even if 29. ... Nd3 may well be better. One of the many lines I didn't see at all is:

<29. ... Qa7+ 30. Ke1 Ng4 31. Qd3 Rxc3 32. Qd8+ Kf7 33. Rxc3 Qf2+ 34. Kd2 Qxe2+ 35. Kc1 Qxg2 36. Rc7+ Kg6>

and here white has a draw with 37. Rxg7+ since there's no way to escape a perpetual:


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Jul-30-06  RetardedGeorge: Took almost 10 seconds to see it.
Jul-30-06  Fezzik: I woulda played 29...Qa7+. I don't know if Percy Blakeney's line is a refutation, but I missed 31.Qd3 too.

Nice find, Percy!

Jul-30-06  Nulfinator: What have I missed?

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 a6 4.d4 cxd4
5.Nxd4 Qc7 6.g3 Bb4 7.Ne2

Did the knight move create a discovered check making it an illegal move?

Jul-30-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <Nulfinator>

??

I guess you're having trouble loading the MyChess java-viewer? Otherwise you would never have asked this question.

Obviously White at move 7 moves the king's knight on d4, not the queen's knight on c3.

Jul-30-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Concerning the puzzle, my first guess was Nc3+, which was actually also preferred by Rybka (thanks <RandomVisitor>), but I completely missed Qa7+, which was much more important.
Jul-30-06  Aspirador: Black is OK!
Jul-30-06  rookattack: Perhaps an amateur's question but Why does white play 24.c6 ?
Jul-30-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <Black is OK!> LOL, even though Adorjan is not handling the Black pieces...
Jul-30-06
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  Peligroso Patzer: <Nulfinator: What have I missed?

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 a6 4.d4 cxd4
5.Nxd4 Qc7 6.g3 Bb4 7.Ne2

Did the knight move create a discovered check making it an illegal move?>

It was the Knight on d4 that moved to e2. It was not necessary to record the move as 7. Nde2 because, as you point out, any move by White's Knight on the c-file would be illegal.

Jul-30-06  RandomVisitor: After 24 ply search:
1: Adorjan Andras (HUN) - Basman Michael J (ENG), Hastings (England) 1973


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Analysis by Rybka 2.1c mp:

1. (-1.28): 29...Nd3+ 30.Ke3 Nxc1 31.Qxc1 Qa7+ 32.Kd2 Rc8 33.Bh3 f5 34.Nd4 Rd8 35.Kc2 Rxd4 36.Qe3

2. (-1.18): 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Rc8 31.Nd4 Nd3+ 32.Kd1 e5 33.Bh3 Rd8 34.Rb1 Nc5 35.Qb2 Nxe4 36.Be6+

3. (-0.90): 29...Ng4+ 30.Ke1 Qa7 31.Qd3 Rxc3 32.Qd8+ Kf7 33.Rxc3 Qf2+ 34.Kd2 Qxe2+ 35.Kc1 Ne5 36.Qd2

(, 30.07.2006)

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