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|Jun-04-07|| ||Timothy Glenn Forney: These are the lines I was thinking about,but it's unclear-(8... Nxd4 9. e5 (9. Qa4 Ba5 10. b4 d5 11. exd5 Qe7 12. bxa5 exd5+ 13. Be3
dxc4 14. O-O Nf3+ 15. gxf3 cxd3 16. Qf4 Bc8 17. Nge4 Bh3 18. Rfd1 Rfd8 19.
Nxf6+ Qxf6 20. Qxf6 gxf6 21. Bf4 c5 22. axb6 axb6 23. Bc7 Rdc8 24. Bxb6 Rc6 25.
Nd5 Kh8 26. Nf4 Bf5 27. Bxc5 Rxc5 28. Nxd3 Rc3 29. Nf4 Rxf3 30. Rd4 Rfa3 31.
Rd2 Kg7 32. Nh5+) 9... Ne8 10. Bxh7+ Kxh7 11. Qxd4 Kg8 12. O-O d5 13. Qg4 Bxc4
14. Rd1 f5 15. Qh5 Bxc3 16. Bg5 Qd7 17. bxc3 f4 18. Nf1 Qf7 19. Qh4 Bxf1 20.
|Dec-30-08|| ||KingG: If 8...Nxd4 then White can win a piece with 9.Qa4, but Black gets some compensation after 9...d5! 10.Qxa6 Nd7 11.Qa4 Nc5 12.Qd1 Nxd3 13.Qxd3 dxc4 14.Qd1 c5, although it's probably not enough.|
Another option for White is to take the other Bishop with 10.Qxb4 Bxc4 11.Qa4(or maybe 11.exd5) Bxd3 12.Qxd4 dxe4 13.Qxd8 Rf(a)xd8 14.Bg5.
Either way it's not a simple win, but White should have a clear advantage after winning a piece for two pawns.
Another interesting line that might have happened during the game is if 9...Bxc4 10.e5 h6 11.h4! Re8 (11...hxg5 12.hxg5 is obviously going to be disastrous) 12.exf6! hxg5 13.hxg6 gxf6 14.Qh5 Kf8 15.Nge4!
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|Sep-01-11|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Didn't Adorjan write an opening book entitled "Black Is OK?"|
|Sep-01-11|| ||chillowack: An Englishman: good evening. Yes, and my guess is, therein lies the pun.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||I play the Fred: The pun was mine and, yes, that was the inspiration.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||Oceanlake: Black castled too soon.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||AGOJ: Adorjan was no wood pusher, but in this game he didn't have the Knaak.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||Eggman: Clever pun, <<I Play The Fred>>, avoiding the obvious variations on "Knack".|
Having only recently submitted my first Game of the Day puns, which have yet to see the light of day, I'm curious <Fred>: how long ago did you submit this one?
|Sep-01-11|| ||whiteshark: Black is <all but> ok|
|Sep-01-11|| ||I play the Fred: <I'm curious <Fred>: how long ago did you submit this one?>|
I honestly don't know. A year, maybe more? The submission list doesn't reveal the date of submission, so I'm just guessing.
|Sep-01-11|| ||Eggman: <<A year, maybe more?>>|
Ouch. So when <PhonyBenoni> told me I'd have to be patient, he wasn't just whistling Dixie then.
|Sep-01-11|| ||I play the Fred: Well, I've rated something like 1400+ puns and there's probably 600 or so more I haven't rated, so yeah, I'd say there's a wait. :D|
|Sep-01-11|| ||meppi: i believe this type of checkmate with A Th8+, Ta8+, Ta1+, Th1+, on an empty square and Bishop + Queen to follow is called a Bulgarian Checkmate|
|Sep-01-11|| ||sevenseaman: Attack - attack - attack! What else is there to do. |
16. Bh7+ is brilliant. Even after seeing it played I took some time to rationalize the complexity. Very clever!
I'd never dream of going like this.
|Sep-01-11|| ||mikhs: the final combination was available 3 moves earlier 15.Nf6+|
|Sep-01-11|| ||profK: Yes mikhs, that would have meant a GM kill in 19 moves !!! Love it.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||ounos: Count me in those who cringed when they saw 15. Qf3?|
|Sep-01-11|| ||FSR: <meppi: i believe this type of checkmate with A Th8+, Ta8+, Ta1+, Th1+, on an empty square and Bishop + Queen to follow is called a Bulgarian Checkmate>|
Maybe in Bulgaria it is.
|Sep-01-11|| ||FSR: Hilarious pun - although to correspond precisely with the title of Adorjan's book it should be <Knaak is OK!>|
It's a shame Knaak missed 15.Nf6+! And 16.Nf6+! He must have been kicking himself afterward.
|Sep-01-11|| ||I play the Fred: <FSR>: I submitted this along with the <!> - either cg.com deleted it, or someone else submitted the same pun without the <!> and that submission made it onto this page.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||FSR: <I play the Fred> Congrats on the great pun. Quite possibly CG.com didn't understand the significance of the exclamation point.|
|Sep-01-11|| ||kevin86: White will mate soonest...|
|Sep-01-11|| ||ColeTrane: adding to my fav games|
|Dec-19-15|| ||cunctatorg: Imho Rainer Knaak was a GM or fine attacking quality and -of course- an impressive tactical vision! |
It would be interesting if some chess site had his account of the reasons he didn't advance more than this during the 80s against players of lesser attacking and tactical skills; my guess is that high level chess is more than tactics...
|Dec-19-15|| ||perfidious: <cunctatorg> There is no simple answer to this, but there have been a good many solid, professional GMs who could give anyone all they could handle, but were not quite strong enough to seriously contend for the world title.|
Even the loser of this game, once a Candidate, might well be included in that class; a propensity for numerous short draws even in Adorjan's early international career probably was of little use to his development, formidable as he became.
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