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Edmund Thorold vs Joseph Henry Blackburne
"Up To Thorold Tricks" (game of the day Dec-12-2006)
Manchester (1890), Manchester ENG, rd 8, Aug-29
Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Normal (C50)  ·  1-0

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Aug-05-06
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  Benzol: Thorold played well here. Blackburne was no push-over.
Dec-12-06  think: Why not 33...Nf6 or 33...f6?
Dec-12-06  The Backward Pawn: At a quick look, if 33...f6 then 34. Qxh5 threatens mate and the rook on g4. and 33...Nf6 might fall to 34.Rxf6 Qxf6 35.Rg8+ and white gets a knight and queen for his two rooks.

Again this is a quick look there is probly a better line out there.

Dec-12-06  black knight c6: Because he wants to protect the h5 pawn?
After f6 Qxh5 is possible, but don't know how worrying it is... Also f6 allows Rg8+ and opens up bishop's line completely After Nf6, would Rg8+, Kxg8, Rxf6 be devestating enough to win? after black moves (probably to safeguard queen somehow) Qe8+ is possible... Actually even Re6! might be played, cutting off the queen from the defense of the Knight and adding another attacker. Interesting tactics anyway, I can't be bothered going into them at the moment though. Maybe someone else would like to find winning lines.
Dec-12-06  artemis: I was watching the game and thinking: wow! I knew blackburne was strong with white.

At the end of the game, I looked at the top and realized that it was thorold who was white! Who is this thorold? He executed the middlegame in a very pretty manner.

Dec-12-06
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  Phony Benoni: 36.Rg8 is pretty, but I wonder if 36.Bxf7 might have been even more effective.
Dec-12-06  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <Phony> Yep, seems like winning on the spot.
Dec-12-06  percyblakeney: <I wonder if 36.Bxf7 might have been even more effective>

Indeed, and it looks quite playable already on move 34.

Dec-12-06
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  Peligroso Patzer: Nice attack! Thorold is the guy one kibitzer called a "weak player" when the following game was featured as last Tuesday's GOTD: Tarrasch vs E Thorold, 1890
Dec-12-06  Microbe: Wow very pretty game. I loved the rook sac and the clever interference with 41.Bd5.
Dec-12-06  Defiler: I don't really understand ...g6 or g3. Seems like purposeless weakening to me especially by black who was castled while white was not. After 21 f5! black was in his death throes.
Dec-12-06  PaulLovric: the quiet game
Dec-12-06
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  kevin86: Where was the "great annotator" today. I notice that Blackburne was clobbered in this game and I also notice the lack of notes.

White knew enough to attack on his own and to shut off the counter-attack by black.

Dec-12-06  kelu: i love it ! great game !
Dec-12-06  thedoyle: i dont understand 5... Bb6. why didn't he take? doubled E-pawns can't be good...
Dec-12-06  tatarch: Doubled pawns in the endgame can be a weakness, but doubling the e-pawns on the 5th move here would open the f-file and strengthen the white center. Black doesn't want to help out his opponent like that.
Dec-12-06  hedgehog: Would anyone be able to give some insight as to defiler's question? I don't understand those move either.
Dec-13-06  black knight c6: both could be to stop either knight reaching f4 or f5, which are very annoying/good positions.
Dec-19-06  hedgehog: Thanks bkc6, that makes sense.
Jun-11-20  Marcelo Bruno: A masterpiece by Thorold!

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