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Paul Klemens Seuffert vs Joseph Henry Blackburne
9th DSB Kongress, Leipzig (1894), Leipzig GER, rd 12, Sep-11
Italian Game: Evans Gambit (C51)  ·  0-1



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Jan-18-05  shortsight: i saw until 33 ... Rh8, but i guess that's more than enough to win the game.
Jan-18-05  maxundmoritz: 29...Nf4+ seems to be the only choice for Black, as White threatens Rh1, but I do not see the forced win. In fact, 36.Rxa5 appears to be a blunder. 36.Nxd6 keeps it open for both.
Jan-18-05  Calculoso: Not terribly difficult because there aren't very many moves that do anything even remotely constructive for black. I would probably play something like this in blitz just for the nice pawn chain w/o even recognizing I'd win the queen a couple of moves down the road.
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  cu8sfan: I found this one fairly quickly which is a relief after missing yesterday's puzzle.
Jan-18-05  Shah Mat: one of those puzzles where i saw the first couple of moves for the same reasons stated above, but missed the revealed check after bxa5.
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  offramp: Collapse of Seuffert's Universe.
Jan-18-05  be3292: <Shah Mat> what revealed check after bxa5? Are you talking about move #35 for black?
Jan-18-05  peterk007: up to 33 Rh8 it is pretty forced. But is it a sure win? Why not just snatch a pawn Bxb7 and leave to burden of proof, that a Q is better than a R+B+pawn to black. White has enough pieces to cover f2 and f3, so what does black do?
Jan-18-05  Captain Scarlet: I thought Peter007 had a point so I've checked on Fritz and sure enough it seems that the best black can do is a draw and, in fact, he is never far away from losing in this position.
Jan-18-05  Hesam7: I think it is a sure win. How you handle ...♕g1 ?
Jan-18-05  Captain Scarlet: Hesam7- White's play is not the best and he shouldn't arrive in the final position in the first place. Allowing the A-rook to leave the back rank was a big blunder.

This should really be a "black to play and draw" puzzle since Nf4 is the only way he can do this and there is no win.

Jan-18-05  dac1990: Well, I Fritzalyzed and it came up with 29 ...♘f4+ 30. gxf4+ gxf4 31. ♔f2 ♖h2+ 32. ♔e1 ♖xe2+ 33. ♔xe2 ♖h8 34. ♗xb7 a5 35. ♗c6 ♘b8 . There is no win for Black.
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  offramp: <dac1990: Well, I Fritzalyzed...> Brilliant! Ossimitz's site has the ugly word 'Annofritzed' which looks and sounds wrong.
Jan-18-05  zer0: Is there an official notation for discovered check (30... gxf4)? Perhaps "dc" or something?
Jan-18-05  JohnBoy: <dac1990> - regardless Fritz's analysis, after 34.Bxb7, if black is going to justify this position it will be with active play. Not just hanging on to a pawn. Try Fritz looking at 34...Rh2+ 35.Rf2 Qh5 36.Rf1 Rxf2+ 37.Rxf2 Qh1, trying to get over to the q-side for checks and pawn picking. Passive resistance is indeed . (How do you make that symbol?)
Jan-18-05  noone2: <Johnboy> white can always prevent the black queen from getting to the q - side by moving the rook f1 f2.

White has at least a draw after 34 B:b7. I would agree with your attempt to get the Q to the q-side as a best try to hold.

Chessgames: I guess this is not an appropriate puzzle - especially for a Tuesday!

Jan-18-05  kualle: Yes an easy capture of the white queen. Saw until Rh8, and thought that would be strong enough to win the game...
Jan-18-05  Shubes82: what was white thinking with move 36?!
Jan-18-05  jirka: Hmm, strange, crafty seems to like: +0.51 34. ♗xb7 ♖h2+ 35. ♖f2 ♖xf2+ 36. ♔xf2 ♕h5 37. ♖g1 ♘b6 38. ♗c6 ♕h2+ 39. ♖g2 ♕h1 40. a5 ♘d5 41. exd5 ♔xf5 42. ♗d7+ ♔f6 43. ♖g4 ♕c1 44. c4, that's after about 860028K nodes. In fact I let crafty play itself starting with move 34 and on (only 5 seconds a move though) and white won. Doesn't seem like an obvious black win to me until the blunder on move 36.
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  kevin86: Blackburne pulls off another of his great combinations! I aswered the first move,but was off afterwards.
Jan-18-05  gilbertv: I saw up until 33 I am having a good day.
Jan-18-05  Granite: The gamescore is slightly incorrect it should read 34. ... gxf4+ since it's discovered check with the black queen.
Jan-18-05  Shah Mat: < be3292 > no. i meant 30...gxf4
Jan-18-05  midknightblue: 1. Chessgames: Thanks for showing an evan's gambit declined - awesome. 2.cu8sfan - I am with you. I missed a monday puzzle, and i needed a confidence booster. 3. And lastly 23. Bd5? seems like one of the worst moves I have ever seen. Talk about not sensing danger.
Jan-18-05  Helloween: I have "Hiarcanalyzed" the position.

After 29... Nf4+ 30.gxf4 gxf4+ 31.Kf2 Rh2+ 32.Ke1 Rxe2+ 33.Kxe2 Rh8, The move 34.Bxb7?! leads to a pretty draw by stalemate: 34...Rh2+ 35.Rf2 Rxf2+ 36.Kxf2 Qh7 37.Rg1 Nb6! 38.Bc6 Qh2+ 39.Rg2 Qh1 40.a5 Nd5! 41.Bxd5 Qe1+ 42.Kxe1 stalemate!
To retain winning chances, White must play for the d4 break - 34.Rf2 b6 35.Rd1! Qg8! 36.Nxd6 Qb8 37.Nf5 Qc7 38.Kd2! Nf8 39.d4 Ng6, which is about equal with plenty of play still left.

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