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| Jul-23-06 | | Pozitioner: <Jaymthetactician> Fischer would win 10 out of 10 !!! computer has no chanses. |
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| Jul-23-06 | | BobbyBishop: <Jaymthetactician> I don't like 2.Bc4 as a universal system (only against 1...e5 and 1...Nc6 is it appropriate I think). That assessment may be a bit rigid. I often play
1. e4 c5
2. Nf6 d6
3. Bc4
with good results. Not popular but certainly playable. I prefer closed set ups so that and the Rossolimo suit me fine. Here's an interesting example by two not so weak players... Aronian vs Leko, 2006 |
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| Jul-27-06 | | blitz920: what the hell is b-k3?
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| Jul-30-06 | | BobbyBishop: b-k3? where do u see that? |
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| Oct-06-06 | | aw1988: In Fischer's notes. B-K3 is Be6. |
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Oct-09-06
 | | OhioChessFan: Qh8? That hurts my eyes to look at. I guess he enjoyed the time he spent with Fischer, but I am astounded anyone would choose to make that move instead of resigning. |
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| Jan-09-08 | | sotoohy: So what if, instead of 35..Rxf4, black had played 35..Kh8? White can try 36 Rxg5 but then 36..Rxf4 seems to hold as 37 Qb3 is met by Rf6 and 37 Qc3+ is met by 37..Kg8..etc. |
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| Sep-16-08 | | sergeidave: Hi guys, I was looking at the following moves deflecting from 25.Rc3, they look very interesting and advantageous for White. What do you guys think? Am I missing something? 25.Nf6+ gxf5
26.gxf5 Kh8
27.Qg5 Rg8
28.fxe7
or 25.Nf6+ Bxf5
26.gxf5 g6 (not gxf5?)
27.Qg5 |
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| Dec-19-08 | | Eyal: <sergeidave: I was looking at the following moves deflecting from 25.Rc3, they look very interesting and advantageous for White. What do you guys think? Am I missing something? [...] 25.Nf6+ Bxf6
26.gxf6 g6
27.Qg5>
Better for Black is 26...Qc5(!) and it's not so simple for White, e.g. after 27.fxg7 Rfe8 28.Q-moves Qe5. <sotoohy: So what if, instead of 35..Rxf4, black had played 35..Kh8? White can try 36 Rxg5 but then 36..Rxf4 seems to hold as 37 Qb3 [g3?] is met by Rf6 and 37 Qc3+ is met by 37..Kg8..etc.> There's the winning line starting with 36.Nxg6+ which was given by Fischer and mentioned in the previous kibitzing; but 36.Rxg5 Rxf4 is also winning by force: 
click for larger view37.Qg3! Rf6 38.Rg4 (aiming for Rh4) Re5 (38...Kg8 39.Rh4 Qf8 40.Rh8+! Kxh8 41.Qh4+ and mate) 39.Rh4 Rf1+ (39...Rh5 40.Qc3 Qg5 41.Rxh5+ gxh5 42.Rf7) 40.Ka2 Rh5 41.Qxd6! Rxh4 (41...Qf8 42.Rxh5+ gxh5 43.Qe5+ Rf6 44.Re7 and Black has no defence against Re8, e.g. 44...Qg8+ 45.b3 Qg6 46.Qb8+ Qg8 47.Re8) 42.Rc8+ Kh7 (42...Kg7 43.Qe7+ Rf7 44.Qe5+ Rf6 45.Rc7+ Kg8 46.Qxf6) 43.Qe7+ Rf7 44.Qxf7+ Qg7 45.Qe6: 
click for larger viewAnd Black's position is completely hopeless; for example, White has the ideas of Re8/d8-e7/d7 or Rg8 in case of Kh6, and there's also the e-pawn which can start advancing. |
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| Jan-02-09 | | Eyal: <Fischer: 15.Kb1 Amateurs are often puzzled by this apparent loss of time. Actually it is a handy defensive move, getting out of the pin on the QB-file which could become annoying after ...P-QN4-5. One never knows when lightning will strike!> Another important (and thematic) point of this move is preventing 15...Qa5 because of 16.Nd5! Bolbochan should probably have taken his chance to play this queen sortie on move 13, instead of 0-0, prompting 14.a3 which might give Black a target for attack with the b5-b4 advance (13...Qa5 14.Kb1?? loses to 14...Nxe4!). As it turns out, after 15.Kb1 Black's pieces aren't set up properly for generating any real counterplay on the Q-side. From this stage of the game onwards, it's very impressive how Fischer establishes within 10 moves or so such an overwhelming advantage, with all of his moves creating one harmonious "flow". 16.h4 - overprotecting g5, advancing the K-side aggression, and preparing Bh3; 17.Bh3 - prompting the exchange of LSBs (17...Nb6 could be answered by 18.Bxb6 Qxb6 19.Nd5 Qd8 [19...Bxd5 20.Bxc8 loses the exchange] 20.Nxe7+ Qxe7 21.Qxd6); 19.Bxb6 & 20.Nd5 - using the exchange of bishops to take complete control over d5 and establish a good knight vs. bad bishop; 21.f4 - prompting, by the threat of advancing the pawn further to f5, the exchange of pawns which places the queen on a more active square, as well as opening the 3rd rank for Rh3 to create threats on the Q-side(!), etc. If Black tries to defend against the threat of 26.Rc7 with 25...Rd7, White wins by 26.Nf6+! Bxf6 27.gxf6 g6 28.Qf4! (more accurate than 28.Qg5, which allows 28...Qf2) 28...Kh8 29.Qh6 Rg8 30.Rc8! |
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| Mar-11-09 | | Joshka: Bobby gives in his notes from 2007: "Originally, in 'My 60 Memorable Games', I thought 25. Ne7+ Qe7 was "objectively best" but now there's more to say on the subject. I had 26. Ra6 Rfe8 27. a4 ( now given a ?!) as the continuation, but there can be no disputing 27.Qb5 Qe4 28. Ra4 Qg6 29. Rad4 is clearly dominating. |
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| Mar-11-09 | | blacksburg: <Ed Trice> gives in his notes from 2007: "Originally, in 'My 60 Memorable Games'... fix'd |
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| Jul-01-09 | | Jason Frost: What's wrong with 23. Nf6+? |
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| Jul-01-09 | | parisattack: I used this game in my chess classes to demonstrate Fischer's style of using tactics to achieve positional goals. Not a spectacular game but very clean, relatively easy to comprehend. |
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| Sep-24-09 | | tivrfoa: what 9...B-K3 means? |
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| Sep-24-09 | | SimonWebbsTiger: 9...B-K3 is the old, descriptive notation for 9...Be6. So e6 would be K6 for white and K3 for black. Similarly, g6 would be KN3 (King knight 3) for Black and KN6 for white. etc |
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| Sep-24-09 | | tivrfoa: <SimonWebbsTiger> thank you! and this: P-QN4-5, Night in the Queen side something ...?
=) |
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| Sep-24-09 | | Boomie: <Jason Frost: What's wrong with 23. Nf6+?> There is a sneaky move that spoils the attack.
23. Nf6+ gxf6 24. gxf5 Kh8!
click for larger viewNo matter what white does, black can defend the g-file. White still has the advantage but not as great as after 23. Qf5. |
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| Jul-13-10 | | vonKrolock: <Eyal: but 36.Rxg5 Rxf4 is also winning by force> Yes, but after 37.♕g3! ♖f6, I sugested 38.e5! dxe5 39.♖g4! *it seems that computers are not fond of this combination with ♙-sac as first choice, but... 
click for larger view ...they soon realize that white is winning quickly: 39...♖f4 (here a check in 'f1' or 'h1' would not change something) 40.♖xg6 ♕h4 41.♕g2 ♖f2 ▢ 
click for larger view 42.♕d5! etc |
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| Aug-03-10 | | Damianx: Trivrfoa the pawn is moving its the queens knight pawn going to 4-5 C4-5 |
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| Sep-10-11 | | vandan12: I truly enjoy fischers games but how does his rook always seem to end up on the 7th file which always seems to cause all kinds of problems for his opponent.? |
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| Sep-11-11 | | SimonWebbsTiger: @<vandan12>
reaching the 7th is the culmination of play on a file, as Nimzowitsch would put it. One thing I like about this game is the route the rook has to take from h1 to c7. Using a rank to develop the King's rook is something we saw as kids, e.g. 1. h4 and 2. Rh3; here it's the same idea only more positionally well founded! |
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| Mar-10-12 | | LoveThatJoker: GUESS-THE-MOVE FINAL SCORE:
Fischer vs Julio Bolbochan, 1962.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF FISCHER.
Your score: 61 (par = 54)
LTJ |
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| Aug-29-12 | | TheFocus: This is game 35 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>. |
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Jul-07-22
 | | PawnSac: < Jason Frost: What's wrong with 23. Nf6+? > "White has a strategically won game; his Knight cannot be dislodged." -- Fischer As per Boomie's comment, Nf6 only liquidates minor pieces and it is doubtful white has more than an even position. The correct approach is to increase the knights effect with additional tactics as demonstrated with the subsequent queen and rook play. On d5 the knight is a monster. |
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