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Vasily Smyslov vs Mikhail Botvinnik
Botvinnik - Smyslov World Championship Match (1957), Moscow URS, rd 8, Mar-23
Sicilian Defense: Richter-Rauzer. Neo-Modern Variation Early deviations (B62)  ·  1-0



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  Benzol: <ughaibu> Just had a look at the Stats page and Ben Lau is at number 5. It gets worse, your at number 2 and I've moved into the top 10 !!?
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: I think I've been here the longest, which might be some kind of excuse.
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  Benzol: You've got a way to go before you threaten drukenknight. I haven't heard from him or diggitydawg either recently. Who were the other kibitzers that were here when you first arrived?
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: Sneaky, PVS, Kulla Tiechen, Vilkacis, Sylvester, Mdorothy, Cyphelium, Honza Cervenka I guess were the regulars. When I first joined Drukenknight was on about 800 posts, Sneaky on 1100.
Jan-29-04  Catfriend: Where is this stats page? <Ughaibu> Sneaky was here longer than you:P, but you kibitzed more!
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  Benzol: Hi Catfriend
If you go to the Search Page you'll find the Stats page listed in a column on the right hand side. You just have to scroll down to it.
Jan-29-04  Catfriend: :) Thx! It was such a shock to think our <ughaibu> isn't the first! BTW, as <PP> asked a weak or so ago, where is DK?
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: Refutor, Ksadler, Pawntificator were other regulars when I joined, probably loads more who dont immediately spring to mind, my apologies for omissions.
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: Drukenknight has had two or three prolonged absences, paternity leave being the only excuse I recall.
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  Benzol: Perhaps should hold some celebration for the oldest kibitzer.
Jan-29-04  Catfriend: He DID mention paternity in his last kibitz... Oh, BTW, I'm the best and greatest in the world!! I'm on a good place in the list for somebody who's here for two months! And that's even with imprecise counting... They placed me on the 27th with 384, while I have more than 390 :'( What a tragedy... Well, anyway, I think that considering the fact I'm one of the latest on the list to register, I'm a GREAT-MEGA-STAR!!!! (Sorry, I just ate something and it had a strange taste...)
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: I think they update your count at midnight US (somewhere) time.
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  Benzol: I think most kibitzers add something positive to this forum. I'm glad your both here. As for me, I have to rise at 5am for work and it's 11pm now so I'll say night night to both of you.
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: Fancy looking at some chess games? I noticed in his collection Botvinnik entered a lot of games from his return match with Tal, I wonder if they really were good or if he was mainly pleased that Tal lost. I think I'll dig some out.
Jan-29-04  ughaibu: G'night.
Jan-29-04  Catfriend: Good night Benzol!
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  Honza Cervenka: By the way, Smyslov played this game perfectly.
Feb-18-04  ughaibu: Uglybird: This game doesn't belong in your collection.
Feb-18-04  uglybird: Ok thanks,just took it out, it's definitely not one of Botvinnik's best.
Feb-18-04  drukenknight: Yes! Paternity leave is an excused absence on this forum.

As is psychological dysfunction.

anyhow...are we talking about this game?

23....Bf6 there has to be something better, perhaps Ra8 perhaps to put pressure on the K?

27...Qa7? w/ similar reasoning.

Mar-21-08  Knight13: 14...e5 is premature. It opens up the game in favor of white and gives away the d5 square while Black himself absolutely gains nothing positive.

14...Bc6 seems better. And 13...Nxd4 just places White's bishop on good square and that knight on d4 didn't need to be captured.

9...Bd7 is not as good as placing the bishop on b7 instead.

12...Ng4 is questionable.

Botvinnik tried to attack the queen side but fails, then goes for kingside pawn storm but white's 2 miles ahead of the race on the other side and so he wins.

Mar-21-08  talisman: <Knight13> i see you're taking a good look at the botvinnik-smyslov games.take a look at the 24th game of 1954.some good comments.
Mar-21-08  Knight13: <tailsman> Yeah, thanks.
Apr-24-11  Open Defence: rather than 14...e5 the plan of 12...Ng4 and then Nxd4 seems to be the culprit, 12...Be7 seems safer and is the book line if I remember right
Mar-10-12  talisman: 19.♕a7! decisive. not 19...♖a8?? 20.♕xa8!...then queen takes and knight checks.
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