| Sep-12-05 | | Resignation Trap: A good start for Bronstein at the Candidates Tournament! Here is what Botvinnik had to write about this game in his notebook on Bronstein: "Nimzo-Indian with a3 and f3. The opponent played the fanciful ...Nh5 and ...f5 and 'Br' refuted it very energetically. First defended his weaknesses on the queenside, consolidated in the center and skilfully switched to the kingside. In a difficult position Szabo blundered the exchange, then two pieces for a rook... In general, 'Br' played well. The game, incidentally, was a closed one!" |
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| Dec-07-08 | | Everett: Botvinnik must have soon realized that Bronstein was strong in all aspects of the game (except, perhaps analysis of endgames, or analysis and prep in general). KIDs' create pretty closed games. Why Botvinnik would be surprised by this in 1950 is strange. |
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| Mar-04-09 | | JonathanJ: this is no KID |
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| Jul-23-10 | | Everett: <JJ> of course. I suggested that Botvinnik's writing seems to imply that Bronstein is weak in closed games. Yet a KID, for which Bronstein is well known for at this point, often became closed, and Bronstein was second to none at that time... And he ended up equally adept in French set-ups too. It seems that Bronstein actually preferred closed, counterattacking structures as black. |
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Jul-23-10
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| Jul-23-10 | | I play the Fred: I never did understand why d4-d5 meant "closed" and e4-e5 meant "open". "Open" positions should refer to pawn formations with open files/diagonals and "closed" positions should refer to games with blocked centers. IMO. |
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| Jul-24-10 | | Everett: <IPlayTheFred> Exactly, though Schiller has a point, that Botvinnik maybe meant "closed" in the d4-d5 sense... Except that wasn't played here either. So basically, old appellations of closed and open are meaningless now, pretty much since WWII, whentypical opening strategies become greatly diversified. |
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| Oct-05-17 | | whiteshark: What's wrong with <8... fxe4> 
click for larger viewwhen 9.fxe4 Qh4+ should be in Black's favour? |
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| Oct-05-17 | | Retireborn: <whiteshark> Nothing wrong with that. Possibly he was afraid of 9.Bg5 but after 9...Nf6 10.fxe4 h6 Black is OK. |
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| May-13-22 | | cehertan: An interesting computer line is 8..fxe4 9.♗g5 ♘f6 10.fxe4 h6 11.e5 hxg5 12.♗d3! ♕e8 13.O-O which looks like something Bronstein would happily play. |
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| May-13-22 | | cehertan: PS I think my old friend Eric is a little cuckoo, it is commonplace for positions to be categorized as open, closed, or semi-closed, although an Open Game implies the opening 1.e4 e5, as in Bronsteins amazing book 100 Open Games. I would call the Grunfeld a semi-closed opening and some mainline KIDs closed positions. Botvinnik often referred to these different types of positions, as when he said that the technique for playing open positions had not advanced significantly since Morphy, incredibly high praise for the American. |
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| Nov-20-22 | | Everett: Move 21 White to play and win immediately |
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