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David Bronstein vs Robert James Fischer
Mar del Plata (1960), Mar del Plata ARG, rd 12, Apr-12
Indian Game: General (A45)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Dec-23-02  Sylvester: I would have played 19…Rxc2 the same as Fischer did and expected 20. Rxc2 Qxc2 21. Qb3 next. Here is how I played it out trying my best for both sides-- 21…Rc8 figuring on 22. Rd1 Bf8 23. Rd3 Rc4 24. h3 Bc5 25. Qxc2 Rxc2 26. Ne4 Bb6 27. Rf3 Rxa2 28. Nxf6Ý Kh8 29. Nd7 Kg7 30. Nxb6 axb6 and I have done no better. 31. Rxf7 e5 32. Rb7 Rb4 33. g5 Rxa4 34. Rxb6 Ra2 35. Re6 Ra5 36. Re7 Rb5 37 Kg3 e4 38. h4 Rb4 39. Kf4 e3Ý 40. Kxe3 Rxh4 41. f4 Rh1 42. Kf3 Rf1Ý 43. Kg4 Rg1Ý 44. Kf5 Rd1 45. Kf6 Rd8 46. f5 Ra8 47. Ke5 Ra5Ý 48. Ke6 Ra6Ý 49. Kf7 Ra8 50. f6 Rg8 51. g6 h6 52. Re5 Ra8 53. Re8Ý Rxe8 and now black is doomed. 54. Kxe8 Kg8 55. f7Ý Kg7 56. f8=QÝ Kxg6 57. Qf7Ý Kg5 58. Qg7Ý and the rest is technique. I ended up getting the mate about 15 moves later on b1 with the black queen on d1 and the black king on a3. Can you give me a hint on the better move?
Dec-23-02  PVS: You have certainly earned that with all your work. You took my suggestion rather further than I had intended; you did a commendable job. Fischer moved the right piece, but too far.
Dec-23-02  Sylvester: I see it now, it is 20. Rc3 and rips white up.
Apr-13-04  Carroll: Rc3 looks very interesting followed by possibly Qe2 and Bh6.It seems as if Fischer should have had an edge. This game is very interesting, and I think I went over it once in a collection of Bronstein's games, but it deserves to be better known.
Jun-03-12  Zugzwangovich: In some quarters 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bg5 is called the Veresov Opening.
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  andrewjsacks: <Carroll> Agreed. Certainly considering the two combatants, this very interesting fighting draw deserves to be better known.
Jan-09-16  morfishine: <andrewsjacks> FWIW: "Carroll" hasn't posted here in 12 years
Jan-09-16  RandomVisitor: After 19.bxa4

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<-0.24/37 19...Rc4> 20.Rfd1 Qxa2 21.h3 Qxa4 22.Nh5 Qc6 23.Qxc6 Rxc6 24.Ra1 Rc5 25.Rxa7 f5 26.Nxg7 Kxg7 27.Rd4 Kf6 28.gxf5 Rxf5 29.Ra3 Rg8+ 30.Kf1 Rc8 31.c4 Rb8 32.Kg2 h5 33.Rf3 Rg8+ 34.Rg3 Rc8 35.Rb3 Rg5+ 36.Kf1 e5 37.Rb6+ Kf5 38.Rh4 f6 39.Rd6 Kg6 40.Rd7 Ra8 41.Ke2

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  andrewjsacks: <morfishine> Thank you. I was just trying to be polite, anyway. I did hope for more general notice.
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  spaceghost: In the game,bronstein vs fischer,FISCHER ON MOVE 13 FISCHER PLAYS PAWN b5.WHAT HAPPENS IF N TAKES ON b5? the year was 1960
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  plang: 6..c5 was already a new move. Fischer aggressively played for a win but overlooked that 32..Kg6 could be answered by 33 Qe8+. He had to defend carefully after that to achieve the draw.
Jan-05-18  Olavi: Bronstein's suggestion 47.Kf4 is obviously better than 47.Kg4. How good are white's chances?
Aug-01-19  jinkinson: Since this is a Richter-Veresov Attack it should be marked with opening code D01.
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  gezafan: < spaceghost: In the game,bronstein vs fischer,FISCHER ON MOVE 13 FISCHER PLAYS PAWN b5.WHAT HAPPENS IF N TAKES ON b5? the year was 1960>

I wondered that myself. It seems to me after Rb8 black gets good play on the queenside. Maybe a strong player could weigh in on this.

Aug-02-19  SChesshevsky: After 12...0-0, looks like black's ok but could have future problems. Worse pawn structure, possibly weak king, queen side pawn minority. But he's better developed and bishop could end up really strong. So better developed, black probably wants to be active and nullify a white advantage. Can't fix pawns and supporting king isn't very active, so weakening whites queen side majority seems logical. Fischer goes for that by opening lines with ...b5 offer. Then it appears after queen side idea accomplished, Fischer then looks toward own king and trying to get bishop going.
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  Gypsy: <gezafan: < spaceghost: In the game,bronstein vs fischer,FISCHER ON MOVE 13 FISCHER PLAYS PAWN b5.WHAT HAPPENS IF N TAKES ON b5? the year was 1960>

I wondered that myself. It seems to me after Rb8 black gets good play on the queenside. >

Yes, <14.Nxb5 Rb8 15.Nec3 Qa5 16.Nd4 Rxb2 ...> recovers the pawn with a better play. White can not hold onto the material, as <...15.Nxa7? Qa5+> would lose on the spot.

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