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Edgar Colle vs Max Euwe
Hastings (1923/24), Hastings ENG, rd 7, Jan-02
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1-0

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Aug-10-03  kj45345: I dont know why colle isnt more popuar, he is in my opinion was one of the most brilliant players to ever play the game.(By the way this opening is called the Colle System)
Nov-12-03  hickchess99: was this a blitz game? how did euwe overlook this mate in 2?
Nov-12-03
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  Honza Cervenka: He overlooked a mate in two [or mate in three: 25.Rxg7+ Kh8 26.Rg8++ Kxg8 27.Nh6#:-)], but after 24...Ng6 25.Qxe8+ Rxe8 26.Rxe8+ Bf8 27.h5 white has big advantage. For example, if 27...h6, then 28.hxg6 hxg5 29.Nh6+ gxh6 30.g7 and white wins.
Nov-12-03  BiLL RobeRTiE: a) this wasnt a colle system
b) people dont use the colle system because it is boring and bad.
Nov-13-03
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  Chessical: Why is Colle system "bad"? It is positionally sound, and has never been refuted. It may not be to everyone's taste, but in that case all openings would be bad.
Nov-13-03
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  Open Defence: these "boring" and "bad" openings are excellant breeding grounds for new ideas, people thought Black could equalize easily in the Scotch Game but the new lines make it difficult for Black to do so..

The Colle Opening is probably due for a revival, maybe Anand should try it, I think it might suit his style

Nov-14-03  Resignation Trap: This opening is "boring" only when both sides want it to be that way (like when Black plays the "best" line to equalize). It definitely isn't "bad". What could be so bad with the Semi-Slav defense with the colors reversed and an extra move for White?
Nov-15-03  refutor: the problem is creating counterplay...most GMs (anand being one of them) would prefer to have inferior positions with counterplay as opposed to passive positions (like the colle) where the opponent isn't put under any pressure at all and everything's exchanged off for a draw
Nov-20-03
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  Open Defence: <refutor> exactly! but some masters have shown how dangerous seemingly quiet positions can be, there is always scope for new lines and innovations
Apr-16-04  ninja007: Colle System,Boring!??, I think that is a misconception.It can drive to games with tremendous energy. if in doubt ask to Mihail Bovinnik.
He used the Colle system quite frequently.
by the way this was not an example of the Colle system.
Apr-16-04  Kenkaku: The Zukertort Variation of the Colle is probably the best system for usage these days. However, it is indeed still fairly passive compared to most mainline openings.
Apr-17-04  Dudley: The Colle system is solid and potentially dangerous but it doesn't put black under enough pressure to get any real advantage out of the opening. Colle played it to avoid most opening theory but that was in the days before the King's Indian, Benoni, etc. were popular. Its still good for intermediate level players. This one was an attempted Colle, but Euwe's Bf5 takes it into a Slav pattern. Colle was one of the great attacking players of his day.
Apr-21-04  kingzie: i think the colle system is quite effective as far as attacking is concerned
Apr-21-04  weepingwarrior: Colle whooped the ex world champion, which say's alot about Colle and his system.
Jul-12-04  zb2cr: <weepingwarrior>,
Euwe was still future world champion at this time.
He held the championship from 1935-1937. At the
time of this game, Euwe was 22. Colle had 4 years
extra experience, so it's not surprising that he
whomped Euwe.
Apr-18-06  Deefstes: I still think that mating combo in the end is sweet, even if someone like Max Euwe should be expected to see it and not take the Queen bait.
May-08-06  MrZor: Also, Colle died in 1932, aged only 35.
He suffered from a very feeble health (ultimately failing him completely), which, in the last years of his life, made it impossible for him to further improve his skills (or even to maintain the level he had reached throughout the twenties). I do not wish to pretend that he had the "right stuff" to be a WCh, but with a normal physical constitution, he might have lived on to make life very difficult indeed for even the world's top players...
May-08-06
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  keypusher: As far as I can tell Botvinnik never played the Colle in his life. Repertoire Explorer: Mikhail Botvinnik (white)

I wonder how these misconceptions get started.

Jul-15-06  Armakov: The Colle is a sound system for White and recommended for players who don't have alot of time to devote to study as it can be deployed against most Black defenses. It arguebly has the fewest amount of lines compared to other White openings because of it's closed nature. I chose it personally early on because I wanted to jump into the game quickly.
Sep-05-06  chessarmenia: I love the Colle opening mainly for 2 reasons: First, for some reason, in this opening, the bishop at d3 has always been useful for me in terms of saccing at h7. Second, the e4 advance alows for easy deployment of pieces and the possibility of a rook lift on an open file. Yup, the colle opening is pretty good.
Sep-05-06  euripides: <I love the Colle opening mainly for 2 reasons: First, for some reason, in this opening, the bishop at d3 has always been useful for me in terms of saccing at h7. Second, the e4 advance alows for easy deployment of pieces and the possibility of a rook lift on an open file. Yup, the colle opening is pretty good.>

I don't think <chessarmenia> is Kasparov or the ghost of Tigran Petrosian, but he might be Aronian.

May-18-07  Whitehat1963: Beauty of a Tuesday/Wednesday puzzle after 23...Bd6. (Player of the Day)
Apr-18-09  zdigyigy: Colle was a great player, but his so called Colle opening system is toothless in my opinion.
Apr-18-09  blacksburg: <his so called Colle opening system is toothless>

i agree.

the london system is much better. :)

Apr-18-09  drukenknight: that B on d3 often haunts me when I the black side of Nimzo Indian.

"I hate you d3 Bishop!"

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