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Frank Marshall vs Harry Nelson Pillsbury
Cambridge Springs (1904), Cambridge Springs, PA USA, rd 2, Apr-26
Pirc Defense: Austrian Attack (B09)  ·  1-0

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Apr-02-14
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  perfidious: <Memethecat> Once a shill, always a shill.
Apr-02-14  LIFE Master AJ: Actually, I was just commenting on the game, it would not have come up, had this game not been the POTD.

And I have as much right as you do to make any comment I like.

Apr-02-14  LIFE Master AJ: This game represents a clash of titans and also a changing of the guard ... Pillsbury - who was visibly ill in the second half of the tournament - played a young Marshall, who had one of his best tournament ever.

Both Marshall end Pillsbury were U.S. Champions (in their day).

Apr-02-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Yawn......
Apr-02-14  patzer2: <zb2cr: Got this one, although I did not see <capanegra>'s suggested 22. ... Ne8.>

<capanegra: 22…Kxf6?? (overlooking mate) was the final mistake. After 22…Ne8 23.Rf4 fxg6 24.Qe5+ Kh7 25.Rf7+ Rg7 Black's position, though precarious, was still defendable.>

I suppose it depends on your definition of "defendable." A quick look with the computer proves Black's busted after 22...Ne8 23. Rf3! (also after 23. Rf4 , 23. Rf2 or 23. Rf1 ).

One possibility is 22... Ne8 23. Rf3 fxg6 24. Qe5+ Kh7 25. Rf7+ Rg7 (25... Ng7 26. Qh5 e5 27. Bxg6+ Kh8 28. Qxh6#) 26. Rf8 Rc8 27. g5 h5 (27... hxg5 28. Bxg6+ Kxg6 29. Qe4+ Kh5 30. Rh8+ Rh7 31. Rxh7#) 28. Qe2 Nf6 29. Rxf6 Kg8 30. Bxg6 (Mate-in-19 to follow per Fritz 12).

Apr-02-14  PJs Studio: That was one of the quickest non-miniature whoopins I've ever seen.
Apr-02-14  Patriot: White is down a pawn.

There are three main candidates: 21.Rxf7+, 21.Nxg6, 21.Bxg6.

21.Rxf7+ Nxf7 22.Rxf7+ Qxf7 23.Nxf7 Kxf7 24.Qf3+ and 25.Qxb7

21.Nxg6 Qxf6 22.Rxf6 Kxf6 23.Qe5#

But I think black can ignore here and play 21...Qe8.

21.Bxg6 fxg6 22.Rxg6+ Kh7 looks a bit tricky.

21.Bxg6 Qxf6 22.Rxf6 Kxf6 23.Bxf7 Nxf7 24.Nxd7+

I'm thinking 21.Rxf7+ may be best. Nice problem with competing candidates.

Apr-02-14  onedog: LIFE Master AJ: I may not be a chess master, but I am an expert in the English language, so if, as you claim, you intend or intended to write a book on this or any other subject, I seriously suggest you polish up both your grammar and your vocabulary - assuming you intend to write in that language. Perhaps what you write sounds more lucid and fluent in Hungarian or whatever your native tongue is.
Apr-02-14  M.Hassan: "Medium/Easy"
White to play 21.?
White is a pawn down.

After not getting good results with 21.Bxg6, I tried the Knight:

21.Nxg6 fxg6
22.Rxg6+
<if...Kh7 23.Rxe6+ Kh8 24.Rxd7 and Black Queen is lost> 22..........Kh8
23.Rxh6+ Kg7
24.Rh7#

If on move 21, Knight is not captured, Black undergoes heavy loss and finally looses:

21.Nxg6 Qd8
22.Ne5 Nf5 to close connection of Rooks
23.Rxf7+ Kh8
24.Rxd7 Qc8
25.Nf7+ Kh7
26.Ng5++ Kg6
27.Qxe6+ Kxg5
28.Qxf5+ Kh4
29.Qh5#
Time to check
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Never thought of 21...Rxf6 which I think accelerates the mate

Apr-02-14  LIFE Master AJ: <onedog> And if you had one less brain cell ..
Apr-03-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gregor Samsa Mendel: ...you'd still have twice as many as some others who advertize their own web pages against CG rules.
Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: <Gregor> I will consider the source, in your case, it means you don't even rate a real reply ...

I think most of my critics are overwhelmed with either jealousy or envy, anyway. (Or ... even worse ... you are liberals.)

Its a well-known fact that liberals are hypocrites. They preach tolerance, but opt for lynching, mugging/mobbing and back-stabbing staunch conservatives.

Apr-03-14
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <Its a well-known fact that liberals are hypocrites. They preach tolerance, but opt for lynching, mugging/mobbing and back-stabbing staunch conservatives.>

Or even worse, one-upping "stauch conservatives" when they start up with their puerile insults. To quote a far more able insulter than myself, don't light a match--AJ is undergoing a major bout of flatulence...

Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: If you lit a match right now, a billion people would probably die ... in the blink of an eye.
Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: In a match of wits, you resemble a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest ...
Apr-03-14
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: AJ, where were you on or about August 30, 1991?

http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...

Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: I was out of the country ... which means you must be to blame, idiot.
Apr-03-14
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  offramp: <onedog: LIFE Master AJ: I may not be a chess master, but I am an expert in the English language, so if, as you claim, you intend or intended to write a book on this or any other subject, I seriously suggest you polish up both your grammar and your vocabulary - assuming you intend to write in that language. Perhaps what you write sounds more lucid and fluent in Hungarian or whatever your native tongue is.>

<Onedog> you are barking up the wrong tree. LMAJ is one of those people who refuses to learn or to be told he is wrong.

Here is an exchange you can see at User: LIFE Master AJ. In response to someone's post LMAJ wrote:

<Feb-27-14 LIFE Master AJ: Your welcome ... (what did I do?).>

He always gets that wrong, and I decided to mention it:

<Feb-28-14 offramp: < LIFE Master AJ: Your welcome...> You mean < You're welcome>, short for <You are welcome>.>

That doesn't seem too abrupt, does it? I didn't think so, but it enraged LMAJ who threw his hat to the floor, jumped up and down on on it and screamed:

<Feb-28-14 LIFE Master AJ: haha What are you, an English prof?>

Whereupon I made the following brain-stoppingly brilliant riposte:

<Mar-01-14 offramp: <LIFE Master AJ: haha What are you, an English prof?>
I'm surprised you think that only a Professor of English can tell the difference between <your welcome> and <you're welcome>!>

Which left poor LMAJ in a terrible state; a morbid acuteness of the senses; the most insipid food are alone endurable; he can wear only garments of certain texture; the odours of all flowers are oppressive; his eyes are tortured by even a faint light; and there are but peculiar sounds, and these from stringed instruments, which do not inspire him with horror.

So you see, there is nothing to be done!

Apr-03-14  ughaibu: There are STILL people who haven't put the life-wanker on ignore?!??
Apr-03-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <onedog: I may not be a chess master, but I am an expert in the English language, so if, as you claim, you intend or intended to write a book on this or any other subject, I seriously suggest you polish up both your grammar and your vocabulary - assuming you intend to write in that language.>

My eyes are bleeding after reading this run-on sentence. An expert?

Apr-03-14  TheFocus: <onedog> should learn the proper use of punctuation.
Apr-03-14  landogriffin: @ <patzer2> thanks a lot for this, although I think you are giving me more credit than I deserve! :)
Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: <off> As your handle implies, you are simply "OFF." (center)
Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: off target
Apr-03-14  LIFE Master AJ: ... and just about everything else as well.
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