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|Apr-07-12|| ||Limpin Kt: <7cman> seems like 1...Rf1 2.kf1 Qb1 is a win.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||Limpin Kt: <izi> probably 31.Rg8! Qg8 (Qd7 Rh8!) 32.Rg8 wins on ur line.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||kevin86: The triple attack on the g-file is irrestable. The final rook sac leads to mate in two.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||Patriot: Material is even.
Black looks to be in a completely defensive posture. Usually in these positions it only takes a feather to break the camel's back.
My candidates are Nxg6+ and Bh5.
28.Nxg6+ hxg6 29.Rxg6 Rxg6 30.Rxg6
30...Qf8 31.Qe3 Kh7 32.Qxe6 looks pretty good.
30...Qe8 31.Qg5 Rf7 32.Rh6+ Rh7 33.Qf6+ Kg8 34.Rg6+
It looks like black is falling apart but there are lots of variations left.
28.Bh5 Rxh5 29.Nxg6+ hxg6 30.Rxg6 looks deadly.
28.Bh5 Rg7 29.Bxg6 hxg6 30.Rxg6 Rhxg6 31.Nxg6+ Rxg6 32.Rxg6 followed by 33.Qg5 looks like a killer.
28.Bh5 Rg7 29.Bxg6 hxg6 30.Rxg6 Rgxg6 31.Nxg6+ Rxg6 32.Rxg6 (same as above)
I think 28.Bh5 may be best but I'm not certain. That's all I'm doing on this.
|Apr-07-12|| ||doubledrooks: White has four pieces striking at g6, while Black has only two defenders of that square. Still, it's not enough! White needs to throw another piece at g6, with the idea being to clear the g gile for White's major pieces. Hence 28. Bh5! and now:|
a. 28...gxh5 29. Rg8+
b. 28...Rxh5 29. Nxg6+ hxg6 30. Rxg6 with a won position, although I admit I didn't consider the game continuation of 30...Qd7
c. 28...Qe8 29. Bxg6 hxg6 30. Nxg6+ with a terrific attacking position
d. 28...Rg7 29. Bxg6 hxg6 30. Nxg6+ Rhxg6 31. Rxg6 Rxg6 32. Rxg6
|Apr-07-12|| ||Jimfromprovidence: I found 28 Bh5 fairly soon but I was worried about the response 28 Qd8, below, as there is the threat of ...Qd5+.|
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It looks like black can still play 29 Bxg6 as the continuation 29...hxg6 30 Rxg6 Qd5+ is met by 31 Nf3!.
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Now, if play continues 31...Rxg6 32 Rxg6 Qd8 it looks like black might not be that bad off.
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But white wins beautifully after 33 Rh6+ Rh7 34 Rxh7+ Kxh7 35 Ng5+! as black must now lose his queen.
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A very rich position today.
|Apr-07-12|| ||5hrsolver: With most of the black pieces on the queenside white has time to bring one more piece to the attack on the g file. I actually looked at both 28.Nxg6 and 28.Bh5. I picked 28.Bh5 because I saw more winning lines although did not delve too deeply.|
One other move that I considered too was 28.d5 with the idea of bringing the queen to d4. I thought this looks good too.
|Apr-07-12|| ||abuzic: <izimbra: Also a good puzzle...if the game had gone <28.Bh5 Rxh5 29.Nxg6+ hxg6 30.Rxg6 Kh7?>> |
<31...Rxg5 32.Qxg5 Kh8 33.Qf6+ Kh7 35.Rh6+ Kg8 36.Rh8#>
32.Qg2 Rh4 33.Qg3 Kh8 34.Rg8+ Qxg8 35.Rxg8+ Kh7 36.Qg6#.
|Apr-07-12|| ||5hrsolver: <izimbra: Also a good puzzle...if the game had gone 28.Bh5 Rxh5 29.Nxg6+ hxg6 30.Rxg6 Kh7?> |
Here's another solution:
30...Kh7 31.Rg8 Qd7 32.Rh8+ Kxh8 33.Rg8+ Kh7 34.Qg6#
|Apr-07-12|| ||Oxspawn: Thanks for explaining that <Once>. I was with <dufferps> scratching my head. On playing this through (I am not pretending to have found the solution myself) I thought white would play 32. (other) Rh3 intending to mate in the same way with the queen, but after Qg7
33. RxR(h5)+ the king would take the rook on g8 and escape.
It is this easy to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Sat. April 7th, 2012.
Got things to do, will look again at this later. (I want to take a very detailed look later tonight.)
After just a couple of minutes ... a couple of observations. Black's pieces are in a very sad state, most of his forces are 'asleep' on the Q-side. Especially sad is that Bishop on a8 ...
(The square) g6 is obviously the focal point. Its either NxP/g6 or Bh5, (threating g6 next) ... overloading that point. (Without any real analysis, I am betting that one of these is the answer ... ... ...)
|Apr-07-12|| ||chrisowen: 28.D5 in contrasting affliction bh5 is too late for black it ne4 in develop it a 11...dxe4 i ment it queen goading e8 and wight never looks back or bh5 main. Exponent in classically it is a little stodgy pro seek in break it g6 or in gotch you. Lessen in effect pieces in calm for. |
Queen grade spot e5 ideal if tease in bishoph5 aim cinch g1 once at hat.
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Hardly- in creak it final straw pluck for qd7 and retire after g8 idiom ground in h7 too know avail it rookh8+ dash under grace way it trebles lovely kxh8 rg8+ kingh7 qg6.
|Apr-07-12|| ||chrisowen: Thinker it is double in dig it h5 or dervish a petulant queen nap in d4 after a d5 nearly it docked in goofball etc g6 to whet the whistle home cloth it eh in debatable fling rave yes for bis. To handover g6 etc only chin a low pass stored in sausages 28.bh5 relax it I very end gaiter e8 one again walk it off 29.bxg6 hxg6 30.rxg6 rxg6 31.rxg6 in empty it horse before the cart hammer g5 line at ar i compute guide an to queen being given try it sac in g6 like a bird in.|
|Apr-07-12|| ||M.Hassan: <sevenseamane: M.Hassan has shown a lot of enterprise and variety in his idea and I like it. Excellent>|
Beside a big warm thank for such appreciation, I must say that you are a well worthy person who deserved to win CG.com's annual award which I believe is called <rhinus> award and that is why when time permits, I always study your wise posts.
|Apr-07-12|| ||M.Hassan: <abuzic
Looks like you have missed Black's move and that's why 34.Rh6 can not be performed.
|Apr-07-12|| ||abuzic: <M.Hassan: <abuzic
Looks like you have missed Black's move and that's why 34.Rh6 can not be performed.>
Sorry if that was confusing, but I meant 33.Rh6# instead of 33.Qg3 and not 34.Rh6#:
Please review my post again.
|Apr-07-12|| ||sevenseaman: Thanks <M.Hassan> Its Rinus, I think. I am touched by your felicitation. In utter honesty my analysis skills are much humbler than the award may lead some to think. |
I am not a 20 sec or even a 2 min guy; I need loads of time to concentrate, embarrassingly more than average.
I follow your posts regularly; and at times you produce some ingenious flashes/combos that leave me wondering 'OMG why didn't I think of that!'
You almost always bring in a new angle, a refreshing new perspective. That is no less than an award.
These things are all in the mind. When I find a good move, just one good move, my happiness is w/o any bounds. Creation is such a primeval pleasure!
|Apr-07-12|| ||Gurn: Ouch!|
|Apr-07-12|| ||M.Hassan: <abuzic:
You are absolutely right. Sorry that I did'nt notice what you meant on move 33.
It seems that Black could have played couple of more moves had he moved the Queen somewhere else:
I hope there is no mistake on this line.
Thanks again for your post.
|Apr-07-12|| ||M.Hassan: <abuzic>:
Can you please tell me how you send part of a kibitzer's message to answer him back?. I always type the part or entire message again and comment on the kibitz. Do you do the same way or is there another system?
|Apr-07-12|| ||M.Hassan: <sevenseaman: I am not a 20 sec. or even 2 min. guy; I need loads of time to concentrate, embarrasingly more than average.>|
LOL. Same here man!
|Apr-07-12|| ||TheBish: N Davies vs R J Dive, 1994|
White to play (28.?) "Very Difficult"
Didn't have time to post earlier, and the "deadline" is nigh!
Looks like White can take advantage of the triple-battery on the g-file with a knight sac:
28. Nxg6+! hxg6 29. Rxg6
or 28...Rxg6 29. Rxg6 hxg6 30. Qxg6 and White has a mating attack. More analysis to be done after Sunday rolls around...
|Apr-08-12|| ||Once: <M.Hassan: <abuzic>:
Can you please tell me how you send part of a kibitzer's message to answer him back?. I always type the part or entire message again and comment on the kibitz. Do you do the same way or is there another system?>|
On a PC you do this:
1. move your mouse pointer to the start of the text you want to copy.
2. Press the left mouse button to start highlighting the text
3. Move the mouse down and/or right to select as much of the text as you want.
4. When you are happy that you've got all that you want, press Ctrl-C to copy it to the clipboard
5. Click your mouse into the comment box at the point where you want to insert the text.
6. Press ctrl-V. Your text should appear
The alternative method is to select the text with the left mouse button. Then press the right mouse button to bring up a menu. Choose copy. Then left click into the comment box, right click to bring up the menu and choose paste.
The same trick also copies positions from the java game diagram and game scores, so that these can be inserted into your comments. Games can also be transferred to chess engines this way.
|Apr-08-12|| ||agb2002: I knew this game and remembered 28.Bh5 immediately.|
|Apr-09-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Saturday, April 7th, 2012
a) 28...Rxh5 29. Nxg6+ hxg6 (forced as 29...Kmoves 30. Ne7+ wins) 30. Rxg6 Rxh2+ 31. Qxh2+ Rh7 32. Rh5! Qd7 33. Rxh7+ Qxh7 34. Rh3
b) 28...gxh5 29. Rg8+ mating
c) 28...Rg7 29. Bxg6 hxg6 (29...Kg8 30. Bf7+ wins) 30. Nxg6+ Rgxg6 (30...Kh7 31. Nf8+ ; 30...Kg8 31. Ne7+ ) 31. Rxg6 Rxg6 32. Rxg6 wins
d) 28...Kg8 29. Nxg6! hxg6 [29...Kh7/...Rg7 30. Ne7+ wins; 29...Kf7 30. Ne5+! Kf6 (30...Ke7 31. Rg7+ Kf6 32. R7g6+ transposes) 31. Rg6+! hxg6 32. Rg6+ Rxg6 (32...Ke7 33. Rxh6 ) 33. Qxg6+ Ke7 34. Qg5+ Kf8 35. Qf6+ Kg8 36. Bf7+ Rxf7 (36...Kh7 37. Qg6+ Kh8 38. Qh6#) 37. Qxf7+ Kh8 38. Ng6#] 30. Bxg6 wins
e) 28...Kg7! (surprisingly the best try) 29. Nxg6! hxg6 30. Bxg6 Qh8 [30...Kf8 31. Bxf5 ; 30...Kf6 31. Bh5 Rah7 (31...Rxh5 32. Rxh5 ; 31...Qh8 32. Rg6+ Rxg6 33. Rxg6+ Ke7 34. Rg7+ Kf8 35. Rxa7 ) 32. Rg7! Rxg7 33. Rxg7 e5 34. Qg5+ Ke6 35. Bf7+ Kd7 36. Ba2+ Ke8 37. Qe7#] 31. Bxf5+ Kf6 [31...Kf8 32. Rg8+ ; 31...Kf7 32. Rg7+ Kf6 33. R3g6+ Kxf5 (33...Rxg6 34. Qxg6#) 34. Qg5+ Ke4 35. Qe5#] 32. Rg6+ Rxg6 [32...Kxf5 33. R3g5+ Ke4 (33...Kxf4 34. Qg3+ Ke4 35. Qf3+ Kxd4 36. Qd3#) 34. Qb1+ Kxf4 (34...Kxd4 35. Qd3#; 34...Ke3 35. Qd3+ mating) 35. Rg4+ Ke3 36. Qd3+ mating] 33. Rxg6+ Kxf5 [33...Ke7 34. Qg5+ wins; 33...Kf7 34. Bxe6+ Ke7 (34...Kf8/...Ke8 35. Rg8+ wins) 35. Qg5+ wins] 34. Qb1+ Kxf4 35. Qd3! Qh5 (forced) 36. e3+ Kf3 37. Rg3+ Kf2 38. Qd2+ Qe2 (forced) 39. Rg2+ Kf3 40. Qxe2+ wins
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