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|Oct-18-03|| ||drukenknight: in this game has anybody tried: 16...Bd6? |
|Oct-19-03|| ||Cyphelium: druken> Slightly tricky, because the obvious 17. Rxe6 fxe6 18. Qxe6+ Kh8 19. Nf7+ Rxf7 20. Qxf7 is nothing special for white. However, instead 17. Rxe6 fxe6 18. Nxe6 wins immediatly, for example 18. -Qc8 19. Nxf8+ Kxf8 20. Qg8+ Ke7 21. Qf7+ Kd8 22. Be6 is dead lost for black. |
|Oct-19-03|| ||drukenknight: Cyph: just when I'm having fun, you have to show up! Say if you have some time on your hands you might want to check out Fischer/Spassky game 18. |
|Jun-04-04|| ||who: was 9...Bxb2 correct? |
|Apr-29-05|| ||Cyphelium: I have to correct my lousy post of oct-03. After <drukenknight's> suggestion 16.- ♗e6!?, 17. ♖xe6? fxe6?? 18. ♕xe6+ ♔h8 is of course immediatly losing: 19. ♕g8+ ♖xg8 20. ♘f7 mate. On the other hand, black can play 17.- ♕xg5 instead, which holds. This means that 16.- ♗e6 is better than the game continuation, although after 17. ♘xe6 fxe6 18. ♖xe6 ♔h8 19. ♕xb7, white seems to have an edge.|
|Apr-29-05|| ||drukenknight: if 16...Be6 can save this game, then shouldnt it get a pure "!"...? |
I mean the guy gave up on move 17 and ...Be6 leads to uncertain. Hmmm...
|Apr-23-06|| ||sneaky pete: Other sources (Botterill, Pálkövi) give the more logical move order 15.Ng5! Bxg5 16.Bxg5 ... when 16... Qc7 17.Qd3 Bd7 18.g4 h6 19.Bf4 .. (Keres) or 16... Be6 17.Rxe6 Qxg5 18.Rxd6 .. (Botterill) or 16... Qd7 17.Rae1 h6 18.Be7 .. (Pálkövi) would still leave white the advantage. Euwe (1938) points out 14... Ne7 when white has no better than a draw by repetition with 15.Qd6 Nf5 etc.|
|Dec-14-08|| ||Karpova: Who had the Black pieces?
Here, Euwe's opponent is Heinz Erwin van Mindeno who was 5 years old in 1927 - did he really play this game?
http://db.mychess.com/ has "Van Mandino" (a player I couldn't find in Gaige's "Chess Personalia") so is this just a typo?
[Event "Amsterdam NED"]
[Site "Amsterdam NED"]
[White "Euwe, Max"]
[Black "Van Mandino"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb4+ 7.Nc3 Nxe4 8.O-O Bxc3 9.d5 Bf6 10.Re1 O-O 11.Rxe4 Ne7 12.d6 cxd6 13.Qxd6 Nf5 14.Qd5 d6 15.Bg5 Bxg5 16.Nxg5 Qxg5 17.Qxf7+ 1-0
|Dec-14-08|| ||sneaky pete: It's S. van Mindeno (I've never been able to find out his first name), a strong club player who qualified for the Dutch championship once or twice (and white played 15.Ng5 .. in this game).|
Long ago, the magazine of the Dutch chess association listed new (personal) members on page 1 of each issue. The June 1919 issue mentions a.o. M. Euwe and E. Straat, both Amsterdam, and G. Filep, Utrecht. The October 1925 issue has S. van Mindeno, Amsterdam, as one the new members.
S. van Mindeno was still active in club competition and small local tournaments after the war; Heinz Erwin van Mindeno (born August 31, 1922) only played competitive chess since 1937. He died in a nazi concentration camp in the fall of 1943.
|Dec-14-08|| ||Karpova: Thank you, <sneaky pete>!|
|Jun-17-18|| ||CheckMateEndsTheGame: Qxf7!!|
|Jun-03-19|| ||LoveThatJoker: 17. Qxf7+. And that's it, with <Whiteshark's> permission. LTJ|
|Jun-03-19|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: If this position wasn't in the first few pages of Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess, it should have been.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||lost in space: I love Mondays!
17. Qxf7+ Rxf7 18. Re8#
|Jun-03-19|| ||perfidious: Good thing they throws in these heah Mondays, just so's Ah thinks Ah kin still play a little.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||agb2002: White is a knight and a pawn down.
Black is about to play Be6.
Black's weak back rank allows 17.Qxf7+ and mate next.
|Jun-03-19|| ||jffun1958: That's back rank mate, combined with a pinned rook:
|Jun-03-19|| ||stacase: Queen sacrifice Monday, and everything is right with the world.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||zb2cr: Very easy indeed. 17. Qxf7+ with mate in 2.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||TheaN: <17.Qxf7+ Rxf7 (Kh8 18.Qxf8#) 18.Re8#> a pattern that is quite common early on in Puzzle Rush. There's a small variation on it where you're supposed to play Re8 first because another piece can interpose on f8. It doesn't work here (nor is it necessary) because of Be6 -+.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||Damenlaeuferbauer: After long pondering, my old friend Machgielis, who was just 26 years at the time of this game and very far away from defeating the great Alexander Alekhine and becoming the 5th world champion of the royal game, but already incredible strong, finally found the mate in two moves with 17.Qxf7+!,Rxf7 (17.-,Kh8 18.Qxf8#) 18.Re8#. According to modern opening theory, black should have played 10.-,Ne7! 11.Rxe4,d6!, preventing 12.d6 and having at least an equal game.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||gawain: Qxf7+ Back rank mate is coming whether Black answers by capturing White's queen or moving his king.|
I recognize Van Mindeno's name. This miniature must be in one of those entertaining collections by Chernev or Reinfeld.
|Jun-03-19|| ||Gabriel King: An easy, yet very beautiful solution. Patzers and experts eyes draw their attention to 17. Qxf7! And that's the correct move. Black's king look too close to the action, but the white's bishop, like a sniper just in the next building, is locking the rook's action. So the nearby king can't do much for her.|
Checkmate follows next. If rook takes:
17... Rxf7 18. Re8#, since rook is just stuck because of the white's bishop on c4.
Or, if the king moves away:
17... Kh8 18. Qxf8, and chomp, rook for lunch and mate.
Very easy, but very instructive! Some beautiful piece coordination here.
|Jun-03-19|| ||whiteshark: <17.Qxf7+!!>, and that's it.|
|Jun-03-19|| ||Breunor: Answering some questions from up to 16 years ago:|
<Drunkenknight: n this game has anybody tried: 16...Bd6?>
It looks like best at 16 for black is:
1) +0.50 (23 ply) 16...Nh6 17.Rf4 Bd7 18.Nxf7 Rxf7 19.Rxf7 Bc6 20.Rd7+ Bxd5 21.Rxd8+ Rxd8 22.Bxd5+ Kf8 23.Rc1 Re8 24.b4 b6 25.f3 Nf7 26.Kf2 Ne5 27.Rd1 Ke7 28.f4 Rf8 29.Kg3 Nd7 30.Rd3 Nf6 31.Re3+ Kd7
Bd6 is illegal. I suspect he means Be6 but I don't need a computer for Nxe6 to be devastating.
1) +1.87 (23 ply) 17.Nxe6 fxe6 18.Rxe6 Kh8 19.Bd3 Qg5 20.Rae1 Qf4 21.Qxb7 Nd4 22.Qe4 Qxe4 23.R6xe4 Nc6 24.Bb5 Ne5 25.Rd4 Rab8 26.a4 a6 27.Bxa6 Rxb2 28.Be2 Ng6 29.g3 Ra2 30.f4 d5
<who: was 9...Bxb2 correct? >
I know Bf6 has been 'book' for a very long time. Computer has:
1) -0.54 (31 ply) 9...Ne5 10.Qe2 O-O 11.bxc3 Nxc4 12.Qxc4 Nd6 13.Qd3 Qf6 14.Bg5 Qf5 15.Qxf5 Nxf5 16.Rfe1 d6 17.g4 Nh6 18.Bxh6 Bxg4 19.Nd4 gxh6 20.Re7 Rac8 21.Rb1 b6 22.Rbe1 f5 23.f3 Bh5 24.Kf2 Rf7 25.Nc6 a6 26.Kg3 Kg7 27.Kf4
2) -0.46 (31 ply) 9...Bf6
On Bxb2, black loses two pieces.
1) +3.45 (23 ply) 10.Bxb2 O-O 11.dxc6 dxc6 12.Qc2 Bf5 13.Bd3 Qd5 14.Nh4 Rad8 15.Bxg7 Qxd3 16.Qxd3 Rxd3 17.Bxf8 Be6 18.Bh6 Rd4 19.Nf3 Ra4 20.Bf4 Nxf2 21.Rxf2 Rxf4 22.Ng5 Rf5 23.Rxf5 Bxf5 24.Rf1
If black tries to save the second piece by playing 10 Ne7 11 Re1 Nf6, it is far worse:
+10.35 (25 ply) 12.d6 cxd6 13.Bxf6 gxf6 14.Qxd6 b5 15.Bd5 O-O 16.Rxe7 Qb6 17.Qxb6 axb6 18.Bxa8 d6 19.Bd5 Bf5 20.Nd4 Bd3 21.Rd7 Bc4 22.Rxd6 Rb8 23.Be4 Kg7 24.f3 h6 25.Rc6 h5 26.Rd6 h4 27.Nf5+ Kg8 28.Nxh4 Be6 29.Nf5 b4 30.Nd4 Kg7 31.Nxe6+ fxe6 32.Rxe6
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