chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Robert James Fischer vs Mikhail Tal
"Big and Tal" (game of the day May-21-2015)
Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959), Bled, Zagreb & Belgrade YUG, rd 27, Oct-26
Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Flank Variation (B87)  ·  0-1

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 81 times; par: 76 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 12 more Fischer/Tal games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Some games have photographs. These are denoted in the game list with the icon.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 9 OF 9 ·  Later Kibitzing>
May-21-15  morfishine: <RandomVisitor: ...including, after 12...d5, this queen sacrifice by black> Nice post, very interesting idea

*****

May-21-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: Was Tal really ranked world no. 2 in 1982? After the 60s he was never a threat in the Candidates matches, was he?
May-21-15  morfishine: <HeMateMe> Yes, Tal was ranked 2 behind Karpov...a remarkable statistic

*****

May-21-15  Howard: No, Tal was actually ranked #2 at the beginning of 1980, not 1982.

More specifically, he was #2, Korchnoi was #3, and Portisch was #4.

As for #1....well, it wasn't Fischer anymore !

Unfortunately, Tal didn't do well in 1980. He was blown off the board in the quarter-finals Candidates matches, and overall, he lost over 100 points that year in rating points.

Granted, his mother and brother both died that year---that obviously didn't help matters.

May-21-15  Howard: I wonder, by the way, how many people still get perplexed by that famous typo in the first edition of Fischer's M60MG, in which near the end of the game it looks like Fischer missed an "obvious win".....when he never did !
May-21-15  morfishine: Thanks <Howard> for the clarification
May-21-15  Howard: Well, you're talking to a diehard chess buff, including when it comes to chess trivia !

Besides, I've been a USCF member for 40 years.

May-21-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: <Besides, I've been a USCF member for 40 years.>

We won't hold that against you.

May-21-15  Petrosianic: <Granted, his mother and brother both died that year---that obviously didn't help matters.>

And also, Tal never did well against Polugaevsky, who he lost to in the quarterfinals, anyway. Even if we exclude that 1980 match, his record against Polugaevsky was +2-5=19. Adding the match in, it's +2-8=24.

Tal was a great player, but one unfortunate fact about him is that nobody can accept the idea of him losing. Any time he did badly, it just HAD to be his health or some external factor. He was the only chessplayer in the world with an excuse people would buy.

May-21-15  Howard: For the record, it was Pal Benko--not Tal--who mentioned the deaths of Tal's brother and mother. He did so in his coverage of the Polugaevsky-Tal, 1980 match.

Don't blame Tal, in other words.

May-21-15  Petrosianic: Oh, I don't blame Tal. He never made excuses himself.
May-21-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Two giants...both winners...this time, it's Tal
May-21-15  A.T PhoneHome: Mikhail Tal most probably knew the road he was taking the moment he started drinking. He knew the risks, but he wanted to lead bohemian life which he did.

He was the last person to make excuses for losing, I think.

May-21-15  ToTheDeath: <No one was better than Tal in 1959. No one.>
May-21-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Karne: <ToTheDeath: No one was better than Tal in 1959. No one.>

And not even the Almighty Lord was better than Fischer in 1971.

May-21-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  jessicafischerqueen: lol good pun
May-22-15  reticulate: Help me out here. Why would Fischer not play 20. BxR? If 21....BxR, then 22. Qxe7+ and the Black King's fortress is breached. At the very least, the other rook falls and a mating net seems likely once the other rook gets to the D file. This seems so obvious that I feel I must be missing something.
May-22-15  reticulate: Now I see that I erroneously had the Black Queen on a4 rather than c6. That makes a big difference!
May-23-15  KID Slayer: Wasn't this GOTD earlier?
May-23-15  Howard: No, you're probably thinking of another game from the 1959 Candidates tournament that these two greats played.

It was from the third round, and it had Tal doubling his ranks on the 8th rank. It was GOTD sometime last year.

Jul-10-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: 17.Bf4 was a slip that allowed black to ease his position after 17...Qc6 with double attack against g2 and Na4. After simple 17.Rf2! white is better.
Mar-06-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  plang: Given that Tal was one point ahead of Keres with two games to play his accepting the gambit with 8..b4!? and 9..Nxe4!? was extraordinarily risky.

From My Great Predecessors:
"On the morning of the day of this game was played, Tal analysed this variation with Averbakh, Koblents and Petrosian, who had called in. 9..Nxe4 appealed to Tigran: 'Such a nice little central pawn...hmmm, hmmm...I think I would take it'. But Mikhail had his doubts, and it was only after sitting at the board and glancing at Fischer, that he mentally waived his hands: 'Ah, what the devil - I'll take it!'. Such preparation is not so much an indication of Tal's flippancy, as of the level of opening theory at this time."

10..g6 did nothing to inhibit f5. After 12..Rg8? Black was in serious trouble; better was 12..d5 13 Nh6..Bxh6 14 Bxh6. 17 c3 was the best way to deal with the threat of ..Qc6; instead after Fischer's 17 Bf4?! Black was better.

Tal on 18..Qxa4:
"I was faced with a choice: should I go into a slightly inferior endgame (18..Qxf3 19 Rxf3..Re2 20 Rf2..Rxf2 21 Kxf2)or, after accepting the piece sacrifice, subject myself to a very strong attack? I could not see a forced mate, it is true, but, perhaps, only because I wasn't looking for one. If I had been playing White, I would have considered the attack to be decisive. Nethertheless, I chose the second path."

Tal's play from that point on was quite impressive.

Jan-10-18  Petrosianic: Although Fischer looks very good early on in this game, the Opening Explorer shows White's results are very bad after 8. f4. The risky 8...b4 hasn't been played much, but White has awful results against it too. That doesn't prove much when there are only a few games, as a lot comes down to who played those games.

<plang> <10..g6 did nothing to inhibit f5.>

Right, it doesn't. And it's not really intended to (even though it looks like it is). The point of g6 is to exchange a wing pawn for White's f pawn, leaving his center pawns intact. Also, as you can see, Black needs to have the f5 square still under pawn attack a few moves later, when he plays 14...exf5.

Where Fischer maybe goes a bit too far is with 20. Bxb8. Maybe like Tal, he assumed the attack would be decisive, but it's not like Fischer to play speculatively. It was probably time to get out of the market with 20. Qxc6+ Nxc6 21. Bxe7.

It should be pointed out that this is not a typical Tal game. With Tal you think of him conducting the smashing SUCCESSFUL sacrificial attack. He's not usually the one who allows the other player to do it, hoping to come out with a better game when the attack fails. That's more of what you'd expect from a Korchnoi game (or Steinitz). It shows that Tal knew more than one way to play for a win.

Mar-25-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  hoodrobin: In my opinion (and I'm not alone) Tal and Fischer were the best players ever, because they had, more than others, the queen of every sport: phantasy.
Dec-03-19  m.okun: In the 1959 Candidate Tournament, Tal defeated Fisher 4-0!
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 9)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 9 OF 9 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any gratuitous name-calling of any members—including Admin and Owners—or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Game 22
from How to Beat Bobby Fischer (Mednis) by Qindarka
Candidates Tournament, Beograd YUG 1959
from Bobby Fischer: Selected Games from 1955-1992 by wanabe2000
Sicilian Defense: Fisher-Sozin Attack. Flank Variation
from MKD's Sicilian Defense Black by MKD
The Best of the Best
by Checkmater7
Vurdh's favorite games
by Vurdh
zzzzzzzzzzzz's favorite games
by zzzzzzzzzzzz
My Great Predecessors by Garry Kasparov
by LionHeart40
A very near miss
from My 60 Memorable Games (Bobby Fischer) by cassiooo
Game 17: A very near miss
from Bobby Fischer: My 60 Memorable Games by psherman31
bc4
from alexsandyer's favorite games by alexsandyer
Sicillian Defense
by Zhbugnoimt
A very near miss
from My 60 Memorable Games (Bobby Fischer) by Monono27
Fluxcapacitor's favorite games
by Fluxcapacitor
King John 5's favorite games
by King John 5
Hiko Seijuro's favorite games
by Hiko Seijuro
Beograd ct 1959
from Fischer vs The Russians by wanabe2000
Game collection: TAL
by chessdeviant
imag's favorite games4
by imag
Instructive games
by vedchess
Game 17
from My Sixty Memorable Games (Fischer) by edwin.n.walker
plus 163 more collections (not shown)


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us


Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC