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| Mar-08-03 | | drukenknight: More Macutheon. it looks like: 10...Qg5+ to exchange queens would take the wind out of whites sails. notice how fischer doesnt get the early h4 in to prevent this. |
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| Mar-09-03 | | drukenknight: 11 Nf3 here white is first to get the N out during this phase of the game. Radja as black got his out first in the other game. does it matter? when Fischer plays 12 Qf4 it takes pressure off the g6, the B sack no longer looks attractive. Hmm can black advance 12...g5? |
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| Mar-09-03 | | drukenknight: 11 Nf3 here white is first to get the N out during this phase of the game. Radja as black got his out first in the other game. does it matter? when Fischer plays 12 Qf4 it takes pressure off the g6, the B sack no longer looks attractive. Hmm can black advance 12...g5? But now I have to pause from the game and get a little misty when I think of that B sacrifice, hmmmm now what game was that? Could it be....?
Euwe vs Bogoljubow, 1921 |
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| Jun-22-03 | | fred lennox: Looking at this game 2 things stand out. After move 17 White's rook's are connected and his king is fairly secure. Not so with Black. 14...cxd4 opens the queenside more...c4 closes it more making 0-0-0 safer. Opening the game with inferior developement is generally not good. Black overrates the c file attack. The second is 16...exf5. White now has a passed pawn and can dominate the e file. To stop both, the bishop is forced to jail itself on e6. ...gxf5 looks better. |
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| Jun-23-03 | | drunknight II: Bishops in jail? That is pretty ironic huh?
Anyhow. yes 16... exf5 makes no sense as it turns what was a material advantage into something not quite due to the passed pawn. Rossolimo claimed 15...Ne7 should have been Be7. But I dont think it matters much. I think though that the c file attack is all important. Why not 21...Qc3+? what was the pt of 21...b3? It does nothing toward attack material or position. |
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| Jun-24-03 | | fred lennox: If not 21...b6, Rb1 threatens. You could be right on Rossolimo's claim. By move 10 it is obvious black is in trouble with king exposure. Much less of a weakness without queens. This is why I recommend 10...Qg5 forcing queen exchange. c file attack is important, king security is more so. |
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| Jun-25-03 | | drukenknight: Wait a second! I knew I had something interesting to show you this when I mentioned it a day ago. It's not the 21st move. I had gone over this a few months ago, so I had forgot there is a trick here that I think was overlooked. You say the c file attack is overrated, right?
THe problem is not with the 21st move. When Fischer puts the K to e2 he had to put him there, because if Ke3 then there is an absolute pin on the B w/ Rc4. Okay now think about that little situation over there with the K. Now look at black's 23rd move. |
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| Jun-29-03 | | fred lennox: I no longer feel the c file attack is overrated. 17...Kf8 is the move I like the least. Kf7 protects the g pawn and is a step to connect the rooks. He does this on move 19, a waste of tempo which lags the attack. |
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| Jun-30-03 | | euripides: 17...Kf7 18 e6+ leads to a slight positional disadvantage |
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| Jun-30-03 | | drukenknight: I am thinking of 21 Qc3+ Ke2 22 Rc4 do you want to follow this up? Havent had time to look at the 17th move. |
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| Jul-01-03 | | drukenknight: I certainly agree w/ Fred's comments about the opening play. I dont know if he's too passive or just too something. 17...Bd7 seems natural. |
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| Jul-03-03 | | fred lennox: Rc4 has possibilities. The problem is the h rook is tied down to defend the silly h6 pawn, so it can't be part of the attack. What about g5 first? |
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| Jul-03-03 | | drukenknight: I think euri is suggesting the immediate 17..Kf7 as a better move for black. Perhaps he is right, but maybe only because in retrospec black moved the K twice? and so lost time? perhaps it was just a bad idea to move the K twice?
anyhow look at that 17...Kf7 clearly the K has moved twice and clearly Fischer is immediately going to place a N where it can check the K. Why? SInce he is behind in material he knows he will need to give check to catch up. He realized the K had moved twice so even if the N check is not to his benefit now, probably the loss of time will come back to haunt black. so perhaps we should look at move 17 there are at least two attacking moves Qa5+ and Rc8. Is there a logical way to choose between the two? |
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| Jul-03-03 | | drukenknight: I think euri is suggesting the immediate 17..Kf7 as a better move for black. Perhaps he is right, but maybe only it looks that way because in retrospec black moved the K twice? and so lost time? perhaps it was just a bad idea to move the K twice? In that case why not simply assume that the 17th move is over and done with and maybe our chance to save this will come on the 19th move. anyhow look at that 19...Kf7 clearly the K has moved twice and clearly Fischer is immediately going to place a N where it can check the K. Why? SInce he is behind in material he knows he will need to give check to catch up. He realized the K had moved twice so even if the N check is not to his benefit now, probably the loss of time will come back to haunt black. so perhaps we should look at move 19 there are at least two attacking moves Qa5+ and Rc8. Is there a logical way to choose between the two? |
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| Jul-09-03 | | fred lennox: Qa5+ is superior for me. It takes the initiative and more space control for the queen. Since black is forced to react no tempo is lost for Rc8. |
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| Jul-09-03 | | AgentRgent: 17...Kf7?? loses the Queen to 18. e6+! Bxe6 19. Qxc7 |
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| Jul-11-03 | | drukenknight: I think Euri was understating the obvious. Sorry if I confused anybody. |
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| Oct-25-08 | | Poisonpawns: I understand Fischer's Knight move 19.Ng1 (eventually to get to f4) However It seemed slow to me 19.Rg1 was better and more to the point.It seems after 19.Ng1 Rossolimo is able to whip up alot of counter play 21..b6 is not a need at this point in the game.Why not 21..Qc3+ first?Last but not least:Is there anything wrong with 28..Qxe5? I Loved Bobby's position until 18.Ng1 and then it seemed Rossolimo had a nice game but made a few bad moves and lost. |
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Jan-01-11
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Apparently, <Rossolimo> was one of a list of men who made Bobby cry in New York, when he was just a kid. Pretty sure Bobby got the last laugh on all of those guys. |
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| Jun-22-12 | | Helios727: For those who suggested 10... Qg5+, Fischer claims that 11. Qxg5 hxg5 12, g4 refutes that line. |
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| Jun-22-12 | | RookFile: Exchange queens against Bobby Fischer? You can get the same feeling by spending an afternoon hitting yourself in the head with a frying pan. Best chance you had was to try to make things murky and hope he went astray in complications. |
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| Aug-29-12 | | TheFocus: This is game 52 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>. |
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| Sep-10-12 | | Luigi Bros: For white: 26. Kf1 Rhe8 27. Qh4 Rf8 28. Qe7+ Kh8 29. Qh7#. Easy mate! Other way:
26. Kf1 Rhe8 27. Qh4 Nc6 28. Qf6+ Kg8 29. g7 Re7 30. Qxh6 Qxe5 31. Qh8+ Kf7 32. Ng5+ Kf6 33. Qh6# |
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| Oct-20-12 | | Joshka: "After the game Rossolimo suggested 15...Bd7 and here my line from M60MG needs some adjusting. Originally I said White had the better of it after 16. gxf5 gxf5 17. Rhg1 0-0-0 18. Rg6, and I left off here. My thinking was that 18...Qa5+ 19. Ke2 Qb4 turns out to be a waste of time for Black. But I didn't give 18...Nb4 enough credit. It looks like it exposes the King needlessly, but it does the trick on 19. a3 Nxd3 20. cxd3 Qb6 21. Rc1+ Kb8 22. Rxh6 Rc8! 23. Rxh8 Qb2+ 24. Ke1 Rxh8 and here black has at least equality." Fischer from his notes in 2007. |
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| May-17-16 | | SeanAzarin: Nic Rolled |
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