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Robert James Fischer vs Svetozar Gligoric
"Stock Exchange" (game of the day May-20-2007)
Havana Olympiad Final-A (1966), Havana CUB, rd 8, Nov-12
Spanish Game: Exchange. Gligoric Variation (C69)  ·  1-0



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Aug-30-12  TheFocus: <harry> What is your problem?

<keypusher> quotes something that Bobby wrote, and you get all loopy and call him a hater.

Don't you think you might need help with that alcohol problem?

Next, you will be calling me a Bobby-hater.

Aug-30-12  MarkFinan: Hey <Focus/greengrass/kolyass/Lazarus>... Leave Hazza alone, he didn't even address you!

I thought you'd died anyway???
"RIP Akiva" and all that???
Oh, my mistake, you were lying for sympathy and because I pulled you on the sockpuppets you have conversations with, you created yet another persona, left, died, and came back expecting people to believe your story...hahahahaha..


Nobody believes you! In fact no-one cares "Mr Popular" :D..

And If anyone here does actually believe you, point them to the direction of my forum and I'll show them up to be Idiots too??

People aren't thick <TheLazrarus>, stop Insulting people's Intelligence.. You're no better than AJ, and how anyone can talk to you as If you're actually the same guy as before Is beyond me!!!

You're a weirdo... I prefer AJ !

Now you run to the admins tough guy, and stop spamming too? You used to give AJ grief for that, what makes you so special??

Aug-30-12  TheFocus: <Mark> If you had a brain, you would be a danger to yourself.

As it is, you are just a bug.

Aug-30-12  MarkFinan: A bug that doesn't talk total crap and live as a fantasist, you mean?

You do realise no-one believes a word you say, right? :D

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  harrylime: ^^
You guys need to get in a room together and sort things out.
Aug-30-12  TheFocus: I'll bring the bug spray.
Aug-30-12  MarkFinan: Good Idea harry.. I'll bang him out!

<ThekolFocusLazarus> bring your Bobby homework too, hahaha :D

Aug-30-12  TheFocus: <harry> I hate to tell you, but I think <Mark> has a crush on you.

This is the second time he has run to your defense when I said something to you.

Maybe you two should get a room.

Aug-30-12  TheFocus: You probably resemble someone he knew in jail.
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  harrylime: ^^

Hey <Focy> .. Stay <Focused> . lol

Aug-30-12  MarkFinan: Nope! He's not like no-one I met In jail, and Its all In my bio anyway Its hardly a secret about my past.. But If you're Insinuating some kind of ridiculous preconception that people like you have of jails, then you watch too many films.. Maybe thats why you died, came back, got Ill, returned, died again, and then came back pretending little Akiva had died, and you're now Nicolai..... Or Is the other guy you made up????? You're a confusing, pathetic, fantasist of a man... And I hate to use the word "Man" when describing you lol.. Go do some Bobby homework haha..

Here, Focy.... I never deleted a thing you've posted In my forum, so you don't delet what I write In yours tomorrow when I can be bothered, right?

For anyone who's Interested, or who posts there, I'm going to show you up for the pathetic person you are :)

Now run along, speak tomorrow..

Aug-30-12  TheFocus: <Mark> You told me not to post in your Forum, so you cannot post in mine.

Anything you post will be deleted.

Aug-30-12  MarkFinan: To quote AJ Goldsby..

"I'm off to take a focus"

LOL.. Even AJ had your number :D

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  harrylime: Ok I now can see the room thing was a bad idea lol
Aug-30-12  MarkFinan: Oh I'd love the room thing Hazza ;)..
No fat guy can come back to life a 3rd time, not when he's been locked In a room with me anyway!!
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  harrylime: ^^^

'fat guy' ? Whos' this ?

Mar-28-14  thegoodanarchist: Ah, this page renews my faith in the goodness of mankind!
Aug-23-19  RadioBoy: I have lost count of the number of important (for me or my team) games that I won in my younger days with the exchange variation as white. Keep your pawns on a3, b2 & c3 and never undouble Black's c pawns. Remember to leave a few pawns on the kings side. Innocently shuffle about until you exchange that last piece, then win in the king and pawn endgame.
Aug-24-19  RookFile: Rubinstein would happily take black. Fischer would take white. I'm sure chances must be close to equal.
Aug-24-19  RandomVisitor: Stockfish after many hours cannot find an advantage for white after 5.0-0

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<58/81 13:36:32 0.00 5...Bg4 6.h3 h5> 7.a4 Qf6 8.d3 Bxf3 9.Qxf3 Qxf3 10.gxf3 Bd6 11.Nd2 Ne7 12.Nc4 g5 13.Be3 f6 14.Rfd1 Ng6 15.Kf1 Kf7 16.c3 a5 17.d4 exd4 18.cxd4 Rhd8 19.Rac1 Bh2 20.Ke2 h4 21.Rd3 Bf4 22.Rb3 Rdb8 23.Ra3 Bh2 24.Rd1 Rd8 25.Rb3 Rdb8 26.Ra3

58/77 13:36:32 0.00 5...Qf6 6.d4 exd4 7.Bg5 Qd6 8.Nxd4 Bd7 9.Nc3 Ne7 10.Bh4 0-0-0 11.Bg3 Qf6 12.Qh5 Qxd4 13.Qa5 Qb6 14.Qxb6 cxb6 15.Na4 Nd5 16.exd5 Bc5 17.Rfd1 Rhe8 18.h4 Bf5 19.dxc6 bxc6 20.Rxd8+ Rxd8 21.c3 a5 22.Re1 Be6 23.Nxc5 bxc5 24.a4 Bb3 25.Kh2 Rd2 26.Re7 Rd7 27.Re8+ Rd8 28.Re7

Sep-04-21  Capacorn: Just got through checking this game out in Soltis’s Bobby Fischer Rediscovered, then reading the comments. I echo the words of many: Hard to believe a player of Gligoric’s caliber would be so easily handled. Really the sort of game I’d expect to see in a blitz match between strong players.
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  Chessmaletaja: <Position after 10...0-0-0:>

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The chess engine Komodo 15, depth 30 half-moves, gives the following evaluations:

11 ♗f4 0.47 pawns
11 ♗e3?! 0.11 pawns

Now, suppose you are a chess player in 1960... You are making your home preparation in the Ruy Lopez exchange. The position above is on your board. You do not have any chess engines.

11 ♗e3 is a logical move that over-defends the central pawn d4.

11 ♗f4!? is riskier as the pawn d4 is less defended, while it gives Black the opportunity to attack the defender of the pawn d4, the knight f3, with the moves g5 and g4 or g5, h5 and g4.

What is your choice?

Do you really get the idea of ♗f4, ♖c1, and d5, opening the c-line and, suddenly, the pawn c7 is attacked, and the bishop f4 really works?

I am not so sure...

Jun-15-23  Besrqe: 17...Ka7 was an over finesse and could be considered the losing move which lost the game.

17...Bc8, as others have pointed out and engines confirm, was necessary at that particular point. Otherwise, Black was ok actually.

Meanwhile, Bobby was merciless as usual and won another fine game.

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  perfidious: Believe the annotation in MSMG was 17....K-R2??, for the record.
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  nizmo11: <perfidious: Believe the annotation in MSMG was 17....K-R2??, for the record.> yes, in my edition of MSMG "Catastrophic. After 17...Bc8 18.Rc3 Black might have hung on with 18...Nf8!" Unfortunately, Fischer did not continue the analysis.
Soltis: "Fischer said Black is still breathing after <the variant above> but 19.e5 fxe5 [SF: 19...Qd5] 20.Nxe5 creates further problems"
White could also try 19.Rfc1 here, but then 19...Nd7▢ seems to hold.
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