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Robert James Fischer vs Efim Geller
"Under the Microscope of Analysis" (game of the day Feb-18-2016)
Skopje (1967), Skopje YUG, rd 2, Aug-08
Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Main Line (B89)  ·  0-1

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Aug-27-04
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: Give Fischer credit where credit is due. In MSMG, he included three losses. In this game, he gave 21....Ba4!! two exclamation points. Compare this with Alekhine; in *his* game collections, there were barely any draws (forget losses!), and he gave only his moves the coveted double exclam. Fischer and Tal stand out as the rare players who loved Chess even more than they loved winning. What a shame about Fischer...

I haven't read any of Kasparov's books; does he include any losses in his game collections? (He doesn't strike me as the type who would, but you never know.) :)

Aug-28-04  Hanzo Steel: <GregorSamsaMendel> I totally agree. Fischer is disarmingly gracious to his opponents in MSMG. The last annotation in his game against Stein: "A stubborn fight!"
Aug-28-04  ughaibu: Geller himself in his autobiography gave only three games, one of which was a loss.
Aug-28-04  Minor Piece Activity: Wow, only three games in his entire autobiography? How long was it, 12 pages? =D No seriously, which were the three games? =D
Aug-28-04  ughaibu: These are the games: Geller vs B Kogan, 1946 Kotov vs Geller, 1949 Tal vs Geller, 1958 Geller later produced a collection of 100 of his games, this time all wins. Fischer's collection is of memorable games, not best games, so it's not such a surprise that he included losses.
Aug-28-04
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  Benzol: I know of a book by Bernard Cafferty called 'Grandmaster Geller At The Chessboard', does anyone know if any losses were included in the 86 games it contained?
Aug-28-04  ughaibu: That book's a translation of Geller's autobiography with added games, there are some other losses.
Aug-28-04
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  Benzol: Thanks <ughaibu>. Geller must have written his biography in the middle to late 60's.
Aug-29-04
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  Benzol: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> Kasparov's book "Fighting Chess" contains about 150 games with no losses listed.

His book "The Test Of Time" contains 86 games and 14 endings. This book contains a number of drawn games and also lists 4 losses (2 against Petrosian, 1 to Beliavsky and 1 to Korchnoi). He also sujects two other endings to independent analysis (1 of Tal's and 1 of Yusupov's). The two books that followed "The Test Of Time", "New World Chess Champion" and "London-Leningrad Championship Games" feature all his games against Karpov from the 1984, 1985, and 1986 matches.

An earlier book by Kasparov "My Games" contains 372 games played from 1975 to 1982 with wins, draws and losses.

Hope this answers your question.

Aug-29-04  WMD: <Kasparov's book "Fighting Chess" contains about 150 games with no losses listed.> If we're talking about the same Batsford book, I don't think Kasparov can honestly be called its co-author (with Bob Wade) despite his name appearing on the cover. A marketing ploy, in other words.

My edition is the 1988 third enlarged version and features 91 games. 38 of these are said to be annotated by Kasparov, but how much of this material is original to the book is unclear. Little, or none, if the bibliography is anything to go by: 'The authors acknowledge the usefulness of source material from' etc. etc.

Do you have a fourth or fifth edition?

Aug-29-04
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  Benzol: <WMD> I think my edition is the fifth one, but I wouldn't swear to it. As for authorship you may be right as the authors are listed as Kasparov, Wade and Speelman. How much input Kasparov had into it remains a mystery but he must have had some say in it. I listed it for completeness to answer the question that was asked.
Sep-01-04  LIFE Master AJ: <everyone>

I analyzed for months ... NEVER found a win for White after 20.Qf4!! (Lots of draws, however.)

Nov-13-04  aw1988: For LIFE Master AJ and others, here is the full predecessor analysis for white's move 20. (I hope I can type this legally):

20. a3?
White's instinctive desire to drive away the queen turns into a fatal weakening of the b3-square. A couple of hours after the game Fischer discovered a problem-like win by 20. Qf4!! with the threat of Rh5:

1) 20...d5? 21. Qe5 Nf6 22. Rxf6 Bxf6 23. Qxf6!;
2) 20...Nd2+ 21. Rxd2 cxd2 22. c3!! Qc5 (22...Qb7 or 22...Qxb3 - 23. Bxg7+! Kxg7 24. Qg4+ Kh8 25. Qd4+ and mates) 23. Kc2! Qe5!? (23...Bd7 24. Bxc5 Bxf5+ 25. Qxf5 dxc5 26. Kd1 Rd6 27. Qe5 Rd7 28. Qe6 Rb7 29. Bc2 and Qf5, winning) 24. Rxe5 dxe5 25. Qxe5 Bf6 26. Qc5 (but not 26. Qxf6?? d1Q+!) 26...Bxd4 27. cxd4 Rc8 28. Kxd2 Ba4 29. Qe7 Bxb3 30. axb3 Rcd8 31. Ke3 and wins (Geller); 3) 20...cxb2 21. Rh5! (threatening Bxg7+) 21...Nc3+ (21...Bf6 22. Qf5 h6 23. Rxh6+!! gxh6 24. Qg6+! with mate) 22. Kxb2 Nxd1+ (22...Rxf7 23. Qxf7 Nxd1+ 24. Kb1! Qxd4 25. Rxh7+! Kxh7 26. Qh5 mate) 23. Kc1 Rxf7 24. Bxf7! Bd7 (24...Nc3 25. Rxh7+ Kxh7 26. Qf5+ Kh6 27. Qh5 mate) 25. Rxh7+ Kxh7 26. Qe4+ Kh8 27. Bxg7+ Kxg7 28. Qg6+ and mate next move. Mednis did not find a win after 21...Nf6!?, but subsequently Murey pointed out 22. Rh6! (threatening Rxf6!) 22...d5 23. Rxf6 Rd6 24. Rxd6 Qxd6 25. Qxd6 Bxd6 26. Rf1, and 26...Bxh2 is not possible on account of 27. Bc5, whereas the threat of 27. Rf6! remains. 22...Rxf7 is no better after 23. Bxf7 Be4 24. Bb3 d5 25. Bxf6 gxf6 26. Rxf6 and wins.

Nov-13-04
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  offramp: <aw1988: OK! It took a while, but here it is:

(1.15) Depth: 21 3:04:58 653416kN (this by the way is off the charts... it's way more than the number indicated)

20...cxb2 21. Rh5 Nf6 22. Rh6 Rxf7 23. Bxf7 Be4 24. Bb3 d5 25. Bxf6 gxf6 26. Kxb2 a5 27. c3 Qd6 28. Qg4>

There is something wrong here as 27.c3 loses on the spot to 27...Qa3+. Have you left a move out somewhere?

Nov-13-04
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  offramp: So... to clarify what I have read on this game, it seems as if the following is the best line. I am not sure if the final position is won or not. White is a clear pawn up but there seems to be a lot of play left. I would say that white is winning.

20.Qf4 cxb2

( 20...Nd2+ 21.Rxd2 cxd2 22.c3 Qc5 23.Kc2 Qe5 24.Rxe5 dxe5 25.Qxe5 Bf6 26.Qc5 Bxd4 27.cxd4 Rc8 28.Kxd2 Ba4 29.Qe7 Bxb3 30.axb3 Rcd8 31.Ke3)

21.Rh5 Nf6

( 21...Bf6 22.Qf5 h6 23.Rxh6+ gxh6 24.Qg6 )

22.Rh6

( 22.Rxh7+ Kxh7 23.Qh4+ Kg6 24.Qg3+ Kh5 25.Qh3+ Kg5 26.Qe3 )

22...Rxf7 23.Bxf7 Be4 24.Bb3 d5 25.Bxf6 gxf6

( 25...Bxf6 26.Rxf6 gxf6 27.Qxf6+ Kg8 28.Qxd8+ )

26.Kxb2 a5 27.Rxf6

( 27.c3 Qa3+ 28.Ka1 a4 29.Qc1 axb3 30.Qxa3 Bxa3 31.axb3 Ra8 32.Rd4 Bc1+ 33.Ra4 Rxa4+ 34.bxa4 Bxh6 )

27...Bd6 28.Rxd6 Qxd6 29.Qxd6 Rxd6
White is a pawn up.

Nov-13-04  aw1988: offramp, the computer confirms your evaluation that c3 loses.
Nov-26-04  LIFE Master AJ: <everyone>
The above analyis looks questionable ... I only ran through it quickly.
May-27-05  aw1988: Well then don't run through it quickly! The Botvinnik Semi-Slav looks questionable... quickly. The French Defense looks questionable... quickly.
Jun-26-05  calman543: Given offramp's analysis, it would appear that there was still a lot of fight left in the game. Although probably still a white victory as long as Fischer did not blunder again.
Jul-10-05  Caissanist: I'm surprised that the position after 21.Qf4 hasn't been a Sunday puzzle yet. It would be interesting to see how many kibitzers could see what Fischer couldn't.

Jul-10-05  aw1988: Fischer was not good in messy positions.
Jul-30-05
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  Honza Cervenka: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> By the way, another player who included his losses in a collection of his games was Siegbert Tarrasch. See his Dreihundert Schachpartien.
Jul-30-05  Happypuppet: <Caissanist> Sometimes games don't make good puzzles because they're too famous. The Polugayevsky - Nezhmetdinov game with Rxf4 (or was it Rxf5?) wouldn't make a good puzzle because almost everyone knows it. I personally have never seen this game before, but that could be the reason.
Aug-09-05
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  Gypsy: <Honza Cervenka: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> By the way, another player who included his losses in a collection of his games was Siegbert Tarrasch. See his Dreihundert Schachpartien.> Same Bronstein in "200 Open Games". Perhaps a theme there?
Aug-09-05  RookFile: This is a very good game. Fischer
apparently could have won by 21. Qf4!!
thanks to his very deep analysis. Give Geller credit for slugging it out with Bobby in this Sozin system, where Bobby scored very well, of course.
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