|Dec-03-04|| ||kostich in time: According to Fischer, Geller who was battling Fischer for first place, was looking at this game intently.After Qa5!, he grinnned and walked away, knowing that Fischer had won the game and first prize. |
|Dec-03-04|| ||drukenknight: look at the position of whites queenside after move 25, does it look like the spassky/fischer poison pawn game? |
|Dec-15-04|| ||kostich in time: Yes, Bobby did like to get his queen into hot water..clearly, it was his way of striking back at his mother. At least, Fine would say so, and we all know that Freudian psychoanalysis is an exact science! |
|Apr-28-06|| ||Ulhumbrus: This game suggests that if White plays Bd6, Black wins by playing his Q to a3 three times. However the suggestion may apply only in one particular game (this game) and in one particular way ( in the way applied in this game)|
|Dec-12-06|| ||joelsontang: andy soltis in 'bobby fischer rediscovered' however says, the losing move for white was not 11.Bd6, since after 11...Qa5 white has 12.a3!; and if 12...Qxc3, white has 13.Bb4 and is guranteed a draw by repetition. so the losing move was actually 12.Qd3??. anyone has a comment on what soltis says?|
|Nov-10-07|| ||zev22407: When Fischer's book was translated to Russian ,one of theire players ( I think it was Zaizev) found the 12)a3! Idea.|
|Sep-07-09|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <According to Fischer, Geller who was battling Fischer for first place, was looking at this game intently.After Qa5!, he grinnned and walked away, knowing that Fischer had won the game and first prize.>|
Well actually, <Fischer's> victory here over <Kholmov>, combined with <Geller> only drawing with <Minic>, meant that <Fischer> was leading <Geller> by a half point going in to the last round- meaning that <Geller> still could have won the tournament with sole first if he won and Bobby lost in the last round.
As it turned out, however, both <Fischer> and <Geller> won their games in the final round, securing the half-point triumph for Bobby.
|May-11-12|| ||wordfunph: "This game was particularly sweet because it was my first win against a Russian in almost a dozen tries."|
- Bobby Fischer
Source: Russians versus Fischer by Plisetsky & Voronkov
|Aug-29-12|| ||TheFocus: This is game 59 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>.|
|Apr-28-13|| ||Everett: Wow, did not realize that Fischer had not defeated anyone from Russia until this game.|
Certainly, if he had participated in the previous cycle, he would have had a bunch more chances to get his first win.
|Apr-28-13|| ||schweigzwang: I think he must have meant (1) "against a Soviet Union player" and (2) "in my last 11 games or so ... losses and draws have been my lot the last couple of years."|
He had previously defeated Soviet Union players, even the occasional Russian I do believe.
|Apr-28-13|| ||Everett: Okay, got it.|
|Apr-28-13|| ||DrGridlock: <schweigzwang: I think he must have meant (1) "against a Soviet Union player" and (2) "in my last 11 games or so ... losses and draws have been my lot the last couple of years.">|
"Soviet" and "Russian" were sometimes confusingly used as interchangeable adjectives in the 1960s and 1970s. The literal interpretation of Fischer's quote is demonstrably false since here:
Smyslov vs Fischer, 1959
he defeated Smyslov in 1959, who was both a Soviet, and a Russian (born in Moscow).
|Apr-29-13|| ||Benzol: Went hunting and found my copy of <MSMG>. Fischer vs Smyslov, 1965 is the last time Fischer defeated a Soviet player prior to this game. Game 51 in the book. |
Fischer's final comment in the Kholmov game was
"Afterwards, Geller tried to offer my opponent some sympathy. I overheard a dismayed Kholmov telling him that I had "seen everything!" This game was particularly sweet because it was my first win against a Russian in almost a dozen tries ( since game 52 ) - and my first with Black since 1962 ( Korchnoi at Curacao )".
I think for "Russian" you can safely substitute Soviet player.
|Jun-26-13|| ||Zugzwangovich: At Curacao 1962 Keres pointed out to Fischer that he (Keres) was Estonian, Geller Ukranian, and Tal Latvian, and RJF said, "Don't talk to me about that! To me you're all Russians!"|
|Jun-26-13|| ||perfidious: <Zugzwangovich>: Was not your cited quote from Bled 1961, not Curacao?|
|Jun-26-13|| ||Zugzwangovich: <perfidious> Could be; I can't right offhand recall specifically where I read it. Thought it might have been Timman's tome "Curacao 1962" but will try to dig it up again. I also forgot to add "Petrosian Armenian" to the list.|
|Jun-26-13|| ||harrylime: Lovin these pages lol
Bobby beat Russians ..
If only he were here to agree .
|Jun-26-13|| ||Nicocobas: <all of you> What happens after 32 ... a6?|
|Jun-26-13|| ||OhioChessFan: Black is already up material, with 3 minors, and White's Knight is about to be trapped, so he just needs to keep developing pieces and should win easily. Maybe 32...a6 33. Na7 Bg7 34. Qd5 Rc7
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|Jun-26-13|| ||Zugzwangovich: <Nicocobas> The knight is toast: If it goes to d4, the Bg7 spear wins it. If it goes to c3, it falls to the mate threat on f1 that Qc4 conjures up. The try 33.Na7 meets a pretty refutation: 33...Rc7 34.Ra1 Qd7 (or 34...Qc4!) 35.Rxa6 Rxa7 36.Rxa7 Qxa7 37. Qxe8 Qa1! and there goes the ball game (RJF analysis in M60MG; the 34...Qc4! given by Soltis in "Bobby Fischer rediscovered").|
|Jun-27-13|| ||Nicocobas: <OhioChessFan> and <Zugzwangovich> Thanks!|
|Feb-26-14|| ||mjmorri: White screwed around too much with his dark squared Bishop. Nice play by Fischer to take advantage of its awkward location.|