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Robert James Fischer vs Leonid Stein
"Brooklyn Lager" (game of the day Mar-22-2012)
Sousse Interzonal (1967), Sousse TUN, rd 7, Oct-24
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  1-0

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Jul-25-16  andrea volponi: 21Cfg5
Jul-25-16  morfishine: "Brooklyn Lager" is another lame attempt by some patzer trying to achieve their own witty "immortality" at something other than actual chess

It really needs to be erased

The sooner, the better

*****

Oct-28-16  andrea volponi: the best defense is:21...h6(21...Db6-Ceg5!)
May-04-17  Mithrain: What a complex game! It is not without reason that the Spanish opening is so rich positionally and tactically as well! A lot of to learn from this marvelous battle!!
Dec-30-17
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  Clement Fraud: Something I've noticed about this famous game - an interesting intricacy - is that at the completion of move thirteen black is exactly one tempo down on a standard Breyer variation of the Lopez. If you compare this game (after move thirteen) with the Breyer variation at the completion of move twelve, the positions are the same... except in the Breyer variation black's Rook has already been moved to e8, and here the same piece is still undeveloped on f8.

Whilst this little difference may not appear to matter very much, I think it's significant because in this game white was able to play 14.b4! (with almost a bind on black's queenside pawns); and yet in the Breyer variation (where black's Rook is already on e8), white nearly always continues with Nf1 instead.

Dec-30-17  ChessHigherCat: If black tries to win the exchange with 45....Kc7? 46. Nd5+ Kc8 47. Ba6+ Kd7 48. f4 Nf7 49. Nf6+ Kc7 50. Rb7+ Kc6 51. Rxf7 and white is a whole rook up.
Dec-30-17  WorstPlayerEver: Unno. After 20... c4 White has a lot to prove:


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Mar-05-18  Allanur: I know two stories about Fischer and Stein arguing and playing.

Mikhail Tal recalled an event between Stein and Fischer in a TV interview he gave in 1987.

After Havana 66, Bobby Fischer and Stein was recalling their blitz game they played years ago, they were arguing who was better by evaluating the position. Then Cuban official proposed "why argue instead of playing blitz match right now?" Others that were present there supported the idea but Fischer came up with another proposal:

"Why blitz? I, as the reigning USA champion, challenge Leonid, the reigning USSR champion, into a match first to win 6. Let us play serious match."

This proposal was supported even more than the one of Cuban official. Stein said that he was glad but said he is going to play the match after the USSR championship which was to start after a month. Fischer refused saying "You may lose your title which can make the match less important than it is now."

Apart from that, I once read a story in which Fischer was present with his Soviet rivals. There, Fischer challenged Stein into odds blitz and Fischer was gonna pay Stein in case Stein was able to draw Fischer. Everytime Stein not only won the money but he defeated Fischer as well. I can not find or recall the story's source, I am not sure whether it was authentic or not.

Nov-18-19  LessThanAlphaZero: There seems to be a bug on the website:
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May-15-20  andrea volponi: 21...Qb6(sullivan!)-Neg5! g6-Nxh7! Bxf3-Qxf3 Kxh7-e6 Nf6-Qf4+-
May-15-20
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  harrylime: <<Allanur: I know two stories about Fischer and Stein arguing and playing. Mikhail Tal recalled an event between Stein and Fischer in a TV interview he gave in 1987.

After Havana 66, Bobby Fischer and Stein was recalling their blitz game they played years ago, they were arguing who was better by evaluating the position. Then Cuban official proposed "why argue instead of playing blitz match right now?" Others that were present there supported the idea but Fischer came up with another proposal:

"Why blitz? I, as the reigning USA champion, challenge Leonid, the reigning USSR champion, into a match first to win 6. Let us play serious match."

This proposal was supported even more than the one of Cuban official. Stein said that he was glad but said he is going to play the match after the USSR championship which was to start after a month. Fischer refused saying "You may lose your title which can make the match less important than it is now."

Apart from that, I once read a story in which Fischer was present with his Soviet rivals. There, Fischer challenged Stein into odds blitz and Fischer was gonna pay Stein in case Stein was able to draw Fischer. Everytime Stein not only won the money but he defeated Fischer as well. I can not find or recall the story's source, I am not sure whether it was authentic or not.>>

You, my friend, are a shoe in for the biggest BS post on this site since it began . lol lol lol

May-15-20
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  fredthebear: Game 60 "When masters meet" was the title in MSMG.
Aug-04-20  Howard: Mueller's book on Fischer's games gives several improvements that Fischer apparently had missed. Most of them were found by a Charles Sullivan, who's made a name for himself analyzing well-known games on his computer.
Aug-04-20
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  harrylime: <<Howard: Mueller's book on Fischer's games gives several improvements that Fischer apparently had missed. Most of them were found by a Charles Sullivan, who's made a name for himself analyzing well-known games on his computer.>>

Thanks <Howard> for this.

Aug-04-20
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  MissScarlett: Ever get the feeling <Charles Sullivan> may be lurking hereabouts? There's a list of at least 20 suspects...
Aug-04-20
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  harrylime: <<MissScarlett: Ever get the feeling <Charles Sullivan> may be lurking hereabouts? There's a list of at least 20 suspects...>>

I'm tossin USER <Cibator> into the ring ere loike

Aug-04-20
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  beatgiant: Have you already ruled out the obvious User: CharlesSullivan
Aug-04-20
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  harrylime: <<beatgiant: Have you already ruled out the obvious User: CharlesSullivan>>

I'm still going with USER <Cibator>

They don't call me HARRY SHERLOCK for nuthin loike

Aug-04-20
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  MissScarlett: Will the real <Charles Sullivan> please stand up!
May-05-21  CharlesSullivan: Sad to say, there is an obituary for Howard Sample of Toledo, Ohio, dated 13 August 2020. He was only 60 years old. RIP
May-05-21
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  perfidious: Different person; <Howard> was on today.
May-05-21
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  beatgiant: <perfidious>
Are you sure? User: Howard is showing <Last seen Aug-04-20> and his post on this page from that date is his last kibitz.
May-05-21
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  keypusher: < beatgiant: <perfidious> Are you sure? User: Howard is showing <Last seen Aug-04-20> and his post on this page from that date is his last kibitz.>

Good golly. Now who is going to look up those articles in Chess Life he was always planning to check?

May-05-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Regrettably, <Charles> appears to have the correct information; the USCF website also lists him as deceased.
May-06-21  Retireborn: I'd noticed his absence, but assumed it was due to lockdown, as I'd formed the impression that he didn't post from home but rather his local library.

RIP Howard.

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