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Robert James Fischer vs Kenneth Warner
Lincoln ch-US jr (1955), Lincoln, NE USA, rd 1, Jul-15
Sicilian Defense: Classical Variation (B58)  ·  0-1



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Feb-04-07  randytaylor2006: Fischer was a genius chess player, one of the best of all time. However, as a person in relation to the world, he was sadly lacking and still is.
Jul-08-07  sanyas: <ughaibu> <A katakana joke! Great.>

I'm sorry, what?

Oct-26-07  sfm: <randytaylor2006: Fischer a person he was sadly lacking...> He was complex and difficult. There's a huge difference to be "lacking".
Nov-08-07  sallom89: <johnnyfroaction> Irony is when u expect something to happen and something exactly opposite happens instead.
Nov-25-07  RandomVisitor: Robert James Fischer - K Warner [B58]
Lincoln ch-US jr Rd: 1 Lincoln ch-US jr Rd: 1, 1955 [Rybka 2.3.2a mp up at 6 minutes per move]

1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.d4 cxd4
4.Nxd4 Nf6
5.Nc3 d6
6.Be2 g6
7.Be3 Bg7
8.f3 0-0
9.Qd2 a6
10.0-0-0 last book move

10...Qa5 0.38/19
11.Kb1 0.38/18 Rd8 0.41/17
12.g4= 0.25 <12.Nb3 Qc7 13.g4 Bd7 14.g5 Nh5 15.Nd5 Qb8 16.Nb6 Qc7 17.Nxa8 Rxa8 18.f4 Bh3 0.41> 0.25/19

12...Nxd4 0.25/16
13.Bxd4 0.26/20 Be6 0.26/19
14.Qe3 0.20/18 Nd7 0.60 <14...Rdc8 15.a3 Rab8 16.g5 Nh5 17.Nd5 Bxd5 18.exd5 Bxd4 19.Rxd4 Ng7 20.Bd3 Qc5 21.h4 0.20> 0.60/19

15.f4 0.60/19 Bxd4 0.68/21
16.Qxd4 0.69/19 Nf6 1.53 <16...f6 17.h4 Rac8 18.f5 Bf7 19.Nd5 Bxd5 20.exd5 gxf5 21.Qf4 Ne5 22.Qxf5 Qc7 23.g5 0.69> 1.53/19

17.f5 1.53/19 Bd7 1.36/16
18.h4± 0.78 <18.g5 Ne8 1.36> 0.78/20

18...Bb5 0.81/17
19.Bf3 0.81/18 Rac8 0.97/17
20.Nxb5 0.37 <20.h5 Rc4 21.Qe3 Rxc3 22.Qxc3 Qxc3 23.bxc3 Bc6 24.hxg6 fxg6 25.Rh3 Rf8 26.Rd4 Kg7 0.97> 0.37/17

20...axb5 0.51 <20...Qxb5 21.h5 Rc4 22.Qd3 g5 23.Qd2 Nxe4 24.Bxe4 Rxe4 25.Qxg5+ Kh8 26.Rhe1 Qe5 27.Rxe4 0.37> 0.51/16

21.h5 0.45/18 Rc4 0.51/20
22.Qe3 0.45/18 Ra8 0.45/17
23.a3 0.51/17 Qa4± 1.31 <23...b4 24.Qb3 b5 25.e5 bxa3 26.Bxa8 Rb4 27.Qd3 axb2 28.c3 Qa1+ 29.Kc2 b1Q+ 30.Rxb1 0.51> 1.31/16

24.c3? -0.68 <24.Qc1 Rc5 25.hxg6 fxg6 26.Rd3 b4 27.Rd4 Rac8 28.Rxb4 Qxc2+ 29.Qxc2 Rxc2 30.Rxb7 R2c7 1.31> -0.68/17

24...Nxe4?± 1.18 <24...Qb3 25.Rd4 Rxa3 26.Rxc4 bxc4 27.hxg6 Ra2 28.gxf7+ Kxf7 29.Qe2 Qa4 30.Kc1 Ra1+ 31.Kd2 -0.68> 1.18/17

25.Bxe4= 0.09 <25.Rc1 Qa7 26.Qh6 gxf5 27.gxf5 Kh8 28.Rhe1 Nf6 29.Rxe7 Ng8 30.Qxd6 Nxe7 31.Qe5+ Kg8 1.18> 0.09/19

25...Rxe4 0.10/19
26.Qh6 -1.11 <26.Qf3 Rf4 27.Qxb7 Rf2 28.Rc1 Re8 29.Ka1 g5 30.Rhe1 Qxg4 31.Rxe7 Rf8 32.Qxb5 Qxf5 0.10> -1.11/19

26...Re2 -1.11/20
27.Rd2?? -8.19 <27.Qc1 Qe4+ 28.Ka1 Rc2 29.Qb1 b4 30.Rd2 b3 31.Rxc2 bxc2 32.Qc1 gxh5 33.Re1 Qd3 -1.11> -8.19/13

27...Rxd2 -5.75/16
28.Qxd2 -5.83/14 Qe4+ -5.85/15 0-1

Dec-07-07  Some call me Tim: Fischer needs to be known for his chess, as is every other of his chess predecessors. He is not known for, or qualified to speak of, anything else. Would we dare to listen on bended ear to the ruminations of Peyton Manning or David Beckham on global politics? I daresay not, unless of course we are angling for entertainment. Ay, there's the rub.
May-05-08  Marcellus: 23...b4 i think be decisive!
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  mjmorri: A powerful victory over Fischer.

I wonder why Warner never became world champion? - Must have been a Soviet conspiracy!!

Sep-30-08  Riverbeast: This is Kurt Warner the football quarterback....

He came out of nowhere, had a few good seasons, then went back to being a scrub

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  Benzol: Wonder what happened to Ken Warner?
Sep-30-08  AnalyzeThis: If he's still alive, he would be around 70 years old now.
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  GrahamClayton: <Benzol>Wonder what happened to Ken Warner?

I can imagine Ken Warner now, sitting in a comfy chair with a couple of his grandchildren, telling them about the time he defeated one of the greatest players of all time.

Oct-03-08  Jim Bartle: Yes, and he can conveniently omit Fischer's age at the time.

Reminds me of a time a writer asked Tim Henman if he was proud of being one of the only players to have a winning record against Roger Federer. Henman answered, "Well, it helps when you start playing him when he's twelve."

Oct-03-08  ughaibu: How old was Warner?
Oct-06-08  Whitehat1963: Fischer was about 12 here, but Kurt Warner must have been a just a gleam in his daddy's eye.
Oct-06-08  Jim Bartle: But aleady unable to hold onto the football.
Jul-15-09  TheFocus: Opponent is Ken Warner, as mentioned above.
Feb-14-10  antharis: I've a book "Die gesammelten Partien von Robert J. Fischer" (in german) where this game is in too. There it is mentioned that the event was the Lincoln youth-championship with a 10 round modus after the swiss-system. Fischer ended up 20th by 25 participants... So, for me this is one more proof that everyone started small. ^^
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  wwall: At the time, Kenneth Warner was Fresno junior champion and attended Bakersfield High School in California. He was USCF rated 1550.
Apr-16-10  Riverbeast: <He was USCF rated 1550.>

Yet another example of rating inflation

Not that he played so brilliantly in this game (in fact, Fischer played like the 1500).....But I think a 1500 in the 1950s was a lot stronger than a 1500 now

But I think back then, if you were rated 2300, you were already one of the top 10 or 20 players in the country

Apr-16-10  DWAustin: Robert James Fischer;the last American World Champion.I think that says it all. Will there be another?
Apr-16-10  TheFocus: <DWAustin> Give me time. I am in training right now. First I have to learn how to play. What is that strange move the Knight does? Can you jump over men like in checkers?
May-01-11  lost in space: <<DWAustin>: Robert James Fischer;the last American World Champion.I think that says it all. Will there be another?>

Strange question. The same like "Emanuel Lasker; the last German World Champion. Will there be another? "

Who knows? But I am sure it will be not S. Tarrasch or R. Hübner.

Nov-27-16  zizizag: Wow! Ken Warner is my uncle! It is so hard to think of him like this! He is 80 now and taught me all the chess I know! Without him I would not be me! And to answer the question some of you asked why he did not continue chess, well, he became a math professer! And now his two favorite things are chess and math!
Feb-23-20  N.O.F. NAJDORF: 20 Nxb5 was an elementary mistake which Fischer wouldn't have made only months later.

I agree that Fischer was not qualified to speak about anything other than chess, which is why he should have kept his mouth shut.

The fact that he expressed admiration for Hitler at about the age of 17 was a good indication that he would self-destruct, just as the Fuehrer had.

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