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Robert James Fischer vs Henrique Mecking
"Mecking a Mess" (game of the day Nov-16-2009)
Palma de Mallorca Interzonal (1970), Palma de Mallorca ESP, rd 21, Dec-08
Nimzo-Larsen Attack: Classical Variation (A01)  ·  1-0

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Nov-28-14  SpiritedReposte: <Mecking Order>
Oct-26-15
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  yiotta: Fischer's handling of the Nimzo-Larsen was original and pragmatic, see also his game vs. Ulf Andersson. I can only wonder what it would be like to play with such clarity of thought, such pure vision, such brilliance, and it's really very sad that off the chess board, his life was so unhappy and such a mess.
Oct-26-15
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  harrylime: <yiotta: Fischer's handling of the Nimzo-Larsen was original and pragmatic, see also his game vs. Ulf Andersson. I can only wonder what it would be like to play with such clarity of thought, such pure vision, such brilliance, and it's really very sad that off the chess board, his life was so unhappy and such a mess.>

Just like Morphy ?

Oct-26-15
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  yiotta: <harrylime> Very much so, I think.
Oct-12-16
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  Jimmy720: Very instructive Nimzo-Larsen play
Dec-23-16  Saniyat24: Fischer's Knight is like a hitman...capturing a lot of the Black pieces...!
Dec-23-16
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  perfidious: <Marmot: Korchnoi said Mecking's weakness was the ending....>

Petrosian also was less than sanguine regarding Mecking's prospects of success at the very highest level, a topic touched upon in one of Dvoretsky's works.

Dec-24-16
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  offramp: Soviet players used to say, "Western players are Grandmasters in the opening, Masters in the middle game and beginners in the endgame."
May-16-17  Mithrain: Althought the 19th White's move was really nice, what I truly admire is Fischer's technique. Black's position is not that easy to crack and Bobby showed how to beat Mecking slowly but surely.
May-17-17  Petrosianic: <xrt999>: <Ive always liked this simple mathematical point.>

Except that it's not as simple as you make out. Generally, the rule is that the person ahead in material wants to trade <pieces>, while the person behind wants to trade pawns. The person behind wants to trade pawns, even though it violates the precept you just mentioned, because there are plenty of drawn K+P vs. K endings, or endings where the weaker side can sacrifice a piece for the final pawn and still draw. The fact that a 3 point Bishop can be less valuable than a 1 point Pawn upsets all those little equations.

May-17-17  RookFile: This game reminds me of Lasker. I'm pretty sure he would have played the same moves once the middlegame arrived.
Dec-26-18  wtpy: Didnt Mecking have a serious health issue in his late 20s, when he is was pushing toward the elite. In a demanding game like chess you are never going to overcome that. Still it is hard to imagine even an in top form Mecking beating Karpov or Korchnoi.
Jun-10-20
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  Honza Cervenka: 16...Bxe5? was a careless move. Mecking apparently missed little tactical trick winning a Pawn after 19.Qxg7+. 16...g6 was correct.
Jun-10-20
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  perfidious: <wtpy>, that malady was myasthenia gravis, which forced Mecking out of chess for over a decade.
Jun-11-20
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  harrylime: I dream about this chess game.
May-18-21
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  kingscrusher: <harrylime> Great game indeed - and I play 1.b3 rather a lot at faster time controls with great success recently :)
May-18-21
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  offramp: In 1970 Fischer began to become the veteran of the game, and he started to play the kids.

By 1975 when Fischer looked around and saw that Fischer was the old geezer.

Fischer didn't want to play the young kids. He wanted to play Spassky and Korchnoi. Fischer wanted to be the eternal child prodigy!

Instead Fischer decided to retire from chess.

May-18-21
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  harrylime: <<kingscrusher: <harrylime> Great game indeed - and I play 1.b3 rather a lot at faster time controls with great success recently :)>>

A 25 year old Fischer in today's engine orientated chess world .... How'd you think he'd get on ?

Fischer with the internet.

May-18-21
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  harrylime: <<kingscrusher: <harrylime> Great game indeed - and I play 1.b3 rather a lot at faster time controls with great success recently :)>>

I've noticed lol

May-19-21
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  kingscrusher: <harrylime> I am not entirely sure Fischer would be thrilled if anyone ever cheated against him in online chess with computers. Maybe he just wouldn't play online chess because of that risk.
May-19-21  SChesshevsky: <Great game indeed - and I play 1.b3 rather a lot at faster time controls with great success recently>

Can see why. Here Fischer appears to get a very nice reversed Queen's Indian with a tempo up. The tempo and maybe some Mecking inaccuracies seem to give Fischer everything he needs.

How is Black best to handle this? Maybe 4...a6? With ideas from the Kasparov line for white in the QID. True it costs another tempo but might get Whites LSB just in the way and offer possible Black Qside expansion.

Or maybe ...Nf6...g6...Bg7? With ideas from the classical QID. Takes even more time but at least fights for the a1 diagonal.

Funny how fairly passive defense like QID can be so irritating reversed and a tempo up.

May-19-21
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  keypusher: <SChesshevsky> (and kingscrusher)

<Funny how fairly passive defense like QID can be so irritating reversed and a tempo up.>

I think there's a lot to be said for avoiding all this with 1....e5.

OMGP IV analyzes this game. Kasparov suggests various improvements for Black, including your ...g6, to be followed by ...f6, i.e.

13....g6 14.Nf3 Bd7 followed by ...f6, citing a couple of games (Maksimovich-Tsvetkovich, Kladovo 1990 and Joahannson-Nordvall Sweden 1992) that don't seem to be in the database. Kasparov goes so far as to say that <Mecking's misfortune was that right to the end of the game he could not bring himself to play ...g7-g6>.

GK also suggests 11....b5 12.Rf3 Nd7 13.Rh3 Nxe5 14.Qh5 h6 15.Bxe5 f6 16.Bb2 d4 17.Rg3 dxe3, unclear (Shasin-Ivanov, Leningrad 1981; Kharlov vs A Raetsky, 1999).

But GK's major improvement seems to be 12....d4.

If 13.exd4?! cxd4 14.Bxd4? Nf6! 15.Nxc6 Rxc6 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Rc1 Bb2 ∓

If 13.Nxc6 Rxc6 14.Nf3 Bf6 15.e4 Be7 -- Kasparov claims this is equal, but SF disagrees. On the other hand SF thinks that 14....Bd6 instead of ...Bf6 is quite equal (15.e4?! f5).

<How is Black best to handle this? Maybe 4...a6? >

White can switch back to a normal QP opening with 5.d4, not that that is some kind of killer refutation, but it does leave ...a6 as sort of a superfluous move.

Korchnoi vs Timman, 1985

May-19-21  RookFile: With this slow stuff, it's not bad with black to copy whatever white does, i.e 1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7, etc. You can be surprised how long you can get away with this. You wouldn't dare do this with a more traditional opening for long, e.g. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 and now you don't play Nxe4. But with the slow setups it works reasonably well.
May-19-21
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  HeMateMe: < I can only wonder what it would be like to play with such clarity of thought, such pure vision, such brilliance, and it's really very sad that off the chess board, his life was so unhappy and such a mess.>

Well, at least BF didn't end up in a bathtub wearing nylons and women's makeup.

<Soviet players used to say, "Western players are Grandmasters in the opening, Masters in the middle game and beginners in the endgame.">

Joel Benjamin [after losing so many games when turning pro after college]: "I've got to learn how to draw!"

The Russian teaching technique is to master all of the ins and outs of <one> endgame position before moving on to study another.

Jun-28-21  RookFile: In other words, the Russians copied what Capablanca did.
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