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Robert James Fischer vs Samuel Schweber
"Schwept Away" (game of the day Oct-28-2011)
Buenos Aires (1970), Buenos Aires ARG, rd 4, Jul-23
French Defense: Winawer. Classical Variation (C18)  ·  1-0

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Mar-09-16  Eduardo Bermudez: Interesting and surprising intermediate move !
Mar-09-16  Howard: Not sure which "intermediate move" to which you're referring, but a move from this game made the list on Krabbe's website of the "top 110 chess moves of all time".

Check it out !

Mar-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: I love 24.Rxd4.
Apr-06-17  The Kings Domain: Simple and impressive victory by Fischer. The way his best games appear like step by step building blocks to victory are among the most appealing and instructive in the game.
Jun-10-17  Albion 1959: Had another look at this game, I still think that is his best game from 1970. All that brilliant play from move 20, just to win a pawn. But also it resulted in a simplified position where Fischer had a 3-1 kingside pawn advantage and that proved to be enough:
Mar-09-18  saturn2: I know Rxe4 from Suetin's book called Strategy of the worldchampions.
Mar-09-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: A famous combination: 23.Rxe4!! Qxg3 24.Rxd4!! and the queen can't escape from the threatened Bf4+.
Mar-09-18  tjshann: Anyone not familiar with this game who says they would play Rxe4 is a liar. Material was even before that move, and is even after all of the fireworks. But Fischer now has a winning endgame. Genius.
Mar-09-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  ChessHigherCat: After that Thursday puzzle, we can look forward to the relatively easy Friday puzzle:

e = ?

Mar-09-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  agb2002: A bit famous, perhaps.
Mar-09-18  yadasampati: 23) Rxe4 was pretty obvious. A nice and elegant move, but too easy for a Saturday
Mar-09-18
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  Once: Too famous to be a puzzle. Still pretty.
Mar-09-18  diagonalley: after white's 26th move he has B+two passed pawns for a rook ... i guess that's ample for a win at this level - although <diagonalley> would no doubt make heavy weather of it :-(
Mar-09-18  Geronimo: There are times when Iíve been particularly rigorous about tactical studies (by my standard, that is, not by the Russian Schoolís, eg) and Iím pushing up my strength, and I get a slight glimpse of what it would be like to be, say 100 or 200 points stronger, or even (I exaggerate) a fluttering brush at the edge of consciousness imagining an understanding and perception like someone touched by chess genius.

This was not one of those times.

Whiteís position after 22... for the puzzle is a thing of dynamic beauty. This may be famous, but I hadnít seen it before. I went off on a totally different direction and missed it completely.

Mar-09-18  gofer: Hmmm, I think that I can

EITHER

a) win a pawn and a stable significantly better position

OR

b) win two pawns, go down an exchange, but have a significant pawn majority on the kingside.

Both strategies start with the same two moves...

<23 Rxe4! Qxg3>

<24 Rxd3!! ...>

The black queen is lost, but black has a number of choices how to give up the queen. So its all a bit murky from here.

24 ... Qxd3 25 cxd3 - is line a) above

24 ... Qg4 25 Rxg4 Bxg4 26 Bxg5 - is line b) above

There may be better, but white's bishops look more active that black's rooks, so black will be on the back foot...

~~~

Okay, this is too famous is it!? Not for me...

:-)

Mar-09-18
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  Edwin Meijer: Yes! I guessed right! Always a great feeling when you guess the right moves made by your favourite player.
Mar-09-18  Lambda: I remembered it dimly enough for it not to interfere with the puzzle-ness. It wasn't until I was thinking "and if we take the knight the queen can just move... not back down the diagonal hang on a minute don't I remember this from somewhere?"
Mar-09-18
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  malt: I recollect some of this game
23.R:e4! Q:g3 (23...de4 24.Bf4 )
24.R:d4! Qg4 (24...Qe5/d6/c7 25.Bf4) trading the Q for Rook 25.R:g4 B:g4 26.B:g6
Mar-09-18  Lambda: The game line is almost just the win of a pawn anyway, because while under the 9-5-3-3-1 system the exchange is worth two pawns, it's actually generally worth a bit less, and in particular if the piece gives you the two bishops, the exchange is worth a lot less, not being worth much more than 1 pawn.
Mar-09-18
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  patzer2: I have this famous combination (23. Rxe4!!) in my "combinations to win a pawn with advantage" collection.

After a fresh look at Fischer's 23. Rxe4!! in today's Friday puzzle (23. ?), the combination appears to be the decisive win of a pawn.

Our Stockfish 9 application's analysis of move 23.? initially gives 23. Rxe4!! a +1.34 advantage @ 38 ply.

However after forcing the program to analyze its own resulting positions, Stockfish 9 recognizes Fischer's extra pawn advantage is clearly decisive (i.e. 5 pawn advantage at the end of the above posted analysis).

Mar-09-18  samvega: I was primed for this puzzle by having earlier viewed the combination that ends this recently kibitzed game: P Burkart vs G Haubt, 1988
Mar-09-18  morfishine: Practically all of Fischer's games are useless for puzzle purposes since (1) there's a relatively small pool of games to choose from & (2) these are too well known

Perhaps using positions with the players names hidden would be an effective and practical way to use Fischer games for puzzle purposes

*****

Mar-09-18  Petrosianic: Fischer's games aren't as well known as you'd think. Some of them are. Everything in M60MG is well known, as are his games from 1971-2 and the first game from 1992. Other than that, he's more kwown by reputation. I once tried to canvas opinion on Fischer's best game of 1968 and you could have heard a pin drop.
Mar-09-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: Instead of putting a dim Knight on the rim with 10...Na5 11. Re1 ±, Black does better with 10...b3 = as per our Stockfish 9 application's analysis of move 10...?.
Mar-09-18  ACMEKINGKRUSHER: HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOBBY Wherever You Are,
This Game and so many others I've seen are Absolutely Fantastic! Even the dropped BISHOP in the'72 WC had Everyone Stymied!! Thanks for the Hours and Hours of FUN Reading and going over your past games! Our Club Loves your games as well! Have you gotten a chance yet to meet and or PLAY MORPHY? Wonder who WON. Bet that's a game that won't make it to CG.C. Well Bobby It is getting Late. Got to Finish reading the rest of these notes on your game. Loved The EN PASSANT Move. Well, Do have a Great Birthday! Don't Forget to Say Howdy to MORPHY for me! ACME KING KRUSHER!
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