Apr-16-04 | | karik: There must have been a terrible time trouble which explains the 'winning' move 55. -g3?? |
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Apr-16-04 | | Brian Watson: No, 55..g3 really wins. |
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Apr-16-04 | | Ruylopez: Brian Watson: Could you please show how g3 wins? |
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Apr-16-04 | | acirce: He must have meant that it wins for white. |
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Apr-16-04 | | boowillo: 56..Qxg3+ Rg5,37.Qd6+ Kf7 38.Qf6+ Kg8
39.Rg1+ etc...if they didn't make the 56...Rg5 move... maybe Brian, Ben Lau or Sneaky could help you out... |
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Apr-17-04 | | Lawrence: This was round 3 of the Eastern States Open, played over the Thanksgiving weekend. The opponent was Dr. Erich Marchand. Winner was Berliner and Bobby tied with Feuerstein, Lombardy, and Rossolimo for 2nd place. (source: "Bobby Fischer 1955-1956", Ediciones Eseuve) Neither Junior nor Fritz see a win for Blacks here: J8's eval is +0.90 and F8's is +1.25. I'll bet <karik> is right, and White ran out of time. Both Junior and Fritz suggest: 56.♕xg3+ ♔f7 57.♖f2 ♕g6 58.♕c7+ ♔e8. |
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Apr-17-04 | | Lawrence: A different kettle of Fish! It was 54...Qh2, not 54...Qh7. (sources: Ediciones Eseuve mentioned above and Lou Hays's "Bobby Fischer Complete Games.") eval -8.08 (J8) |
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Apr-17-04 | | karik: Well that settles it. In english notation Qh7 is Q-KR2, Qh2=Q-R7. Now I can sleep again! |
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Apr-17-04 | | Brian Watson: heh, heh, heh . . . oops. One can stir up quite a bit of controversy with one idiotic suggestion . . . I was thinking 55..g3?? 56.Qxg3+ Rg5 57.Qf3?? Qh3, which I think actually would be winning for black, and maybe, in severe time trouble of course, is what Fischer had in mind |
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Aug-27-04 | | wall: 47.gxf4 looks bad. Perhaps 47.Qxf4 and try to trade of queens. 49...d4 is good since 50.exd4 cxd4 51.Bxd4 Rd8 looks strong. If 55.Qb2 (instead of the game move 55 Bc3), then 55...Qxb2 56.Bxb2 Rh2 should win. Finally, after 55...g3 56.Qxh2 doesn't work after 56...gxh2 57.Rh1 Bg4+ 58.Kc1 Bf3. |
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Aug-17-05 | | Eric6312: After 56. Qxg3+ why can't black take the queen? |
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Aug-17-05 | | aw1988: I have no clue what you're talking about. The final position? Of course Black can take it... |
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Aug-17-05 | | Assassinater: < After 56. Qxg3+ why can't black take the queen? > The move order was changed from 54... Qh7 to 54... Qh2. |
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Dec-21-05 | | scared money: Not too bad for a 13 year old. |
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Jan-28-08 | | Rama: Erich Marchand was a member of the Syracuse CC when I was there in the early 70's. He was fondly referred to as E-Rich. Jonathan Tisdall ("Tiz the Wiz") also played there at that time. Tiz was like 16-18 yrs old. |
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Jul-16-08 | | CharlesSullivan: Fischer missed the nice 38...♘xg3+!, winning another pawn. If 39.♕xg3 ♖h2+ 40.♔d1 (not 40.♔e1? ♗h4) 40...♕xg3 41.♖xg3 ♖h1! 42.♔e1 ♗h4 and Black regains the piece. |
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Jul-17-11 | | shatranj7: It's winning, because if 56.Qxh2, then 56...gxh2. 57.Rh1 Bh3! (white cannot prevent Bg2. If 58.Rxh2? then 58...Bg4+ snaring the rook). |
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Jul-21-16 | | mandor: I think that the move g3 is unexplained by some people (i.e. karik) because in some databases (and analogical sources) there is the move 54..Qh7 (making 55..g3 impossible) instead 54..Qh2! |
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