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Ron Thacker vs Robert James Fischer
US Junior Open (1957), San Francisco, CA USA, rd 3, Jul-??
Sicilian Defense: Delayed Alapin (B50)  ·  0-1

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Feb-04-10
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  chancho: <In June 1956, Fischer began attending the "Hawthorne Chess Club", which was actually master John W. Collins' home. Collins had coached some of the country's leading players, including Robert and Donald Byrne and William Lombardy. Fischer played thousands of blitz and offhand games with Collins and other strong players, began studying the books in Collins' large chess library, and ate almost as many dinners at Collins' home as his own>
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: <Riverbeast> Bobby's rating in April 1956 was 2168; in July 1956 it was 2321, #33 in the nation.
Feb-04-10
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  chancho: <The Focus> I'm looking at the US Amateur Championship from May 25 to 27 1956 in Asbury Park, New Jersey. It was a 6 round swiss in which Fischer finished in a tie for 12th place. It says his USCF rating for May was 1726. Can you please show a link with Fischer's rating beginning April 1956? Thanks.
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: <chancho> No, it is in my database. You are looking at a published rating. Mine shows his official rating after each event.

Same as your rating changes after each event you play in, yet your published rating may be different.

Feb-04-10
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  chancho: <The Focus> Thanks for that.
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: What Bobby received at the Hawthorne Chess Club was an atmosphere where a lot of chess was going on. Robert and Donald Byrne, William Lombardy, John Collins and all the regulars gave Bobby the opportunity to practice against some of the strongest players in New York, the center of US chess. Collins provided Bobby with a large library to use and read, thousands of skittles and blitz games, and very importantly, a home away from home.
Feb-04-10
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  chancho: The US Junior Championship July 1 to 7 in Philadelphia 1956 was a ten round event which Fischer won with 8.5 points. His USCF rating going into that event was 1830.
Feb-04-10
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  chancho: The guy who could provide the USCF month by month rating of young Bobby is probably <Petrosianic>. He's got most of the old Chess Review and Chess Life and Review.
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: At the end of 1956, Fischer's USCF ratings were averaged for the year and were published at 2231.

The ratings for this busy year of his were constantly changing. 10 tournaments, the Log Cabin team tour, the Metropolitan League matches. This does not include the US Junior Speed Championship.

Feb-04-10  TheFocus: <chancho> I have all of them too.
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: <postal> Bobby was taught by his sister. Then he had a teacher. Go away, boy.
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: I believe John Donaldson did a ratings chart of Bobby. I can't find it right now, but he used the monthly rating cards, I believe.

Chess Life published the ratings twice a year. So the published could never keep up with performance.

Feb-04-10  miguelito: fischer ratings , may 1956 was 1726 , spring 1957 was 2231 , may 1957 was 2298 .
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: <postal> Does your Mother allow you to talk like that?
Feb-04-10
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  chancho: What was it, about an 800 rating point jump or something? That is amazing.
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: Bobby jumped from a Class B to master in a very quick time.
Feb-04-10  miguelito: 1958 fischer rating was 2626 ( 2552 + 2605 + 2722 US CH ) / 3 = 2626
Feb-04-10  TheFocus: <miguelito> Yes, thank you.

<postal> Get back on your medication. You will like yourself better that way.

Feb-04-10  Riverbeast: I'm still waiting for my 800 point rating jump.....It should be coming soon

Carlsen, look out!

Feb-04-10
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  chancho: <Riverbeast> Sometimes wishes do come true. :-)
Jan-23-12  Zugzwangovich: It would appear that White's last six moves could be summed up in one word: spite.
Jan-23-12  RookFile: Well, he was only 5 pawn captures away from being able to set up a stalemate position.
Jun-06-16
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  diceman: <chancho: <The Focus> Fischer's rating in May of 1956 was 1726. In the next few months his game got stronger and he did became a Master. You don't think Collins had a hand in that? And Collins mentioned Fischer in his book my Seven prodigies, so clearly he must have felt he contributed something to Fischer's development. I supposed it was just shooting the breeze and nothing more chessicwise in these photos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:J...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...

In chancho's third picture.

I recognize the "famous" chess adults.
Who are the children playing chess?

May-11-22  offramp: <Volcanic Fischer>.
May-11-22
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  perfidious: White may well have confused his tournaments and believed he was playing giveaway instead.
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