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Samuel Reshevsky vs Robert James Fischer
Fischer - Reshevsky (1961), Los Angeles, CA USA, rd 7, Aug-01
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal. Ragozin Variation (E51)  ·  1-0

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Jul-17-13
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  HeMateMe: Isn't this more aggressive than the usual Reshevsky style?
Apr-18-16  morfishine: Fischer's shortest loss vs serious competition
Sep-07-16
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  PawnSac: < HeMateMe: Isn't this more aggressive than the usual Reshevsky style? >

The Fischer mystique can sometimes overshadow our overall impressions of his opponents, but make no mistake about it. Reshevsky was also a child prodigy with an impressive performance history. He could be quite aggressive and was a champion in his own right. I think it is dishonest to reality and the facts to not let the games stand as they are. Reshevski, Tal, Fischer, Kasparov, and a few others were all capable of some amazing tho not so perfect wins.

Sep-07-16
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  perfidious: <prawnsnack: The Fischer mystique can sometimes overshadow our overall impressions of his opponents, but make no mistake about it. Reshevsky was also a child prodigy with an impressive performance history....>

As opposed to being a prodigy who was unimpressive?

<.....I think it is dishonest to reality and the facts to not let the games stand as they are. Reshevski, Tal, Fischer, Kasparov, and a few others were all capable of some amazing tho not so perfect wins.>

Come again?

Who is being 'dishonest to reality', whatever that is?

We are all of us capable of playing less than perfect chess, as certain self-styled pundits relentlessly remind us at every turn.

Jul-21-18  Saniyat24: <perfidious> was "prawnsack" deliberate?
Jul-21-18
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  perfidious: It was.
Jul-21-18  WorstPlayerEver: When I was a kid we once went to a book dump store. I quickly gathered five of the thickest chess books I could lay my hands on, one of them was 'My Seven Chess Prodigies'.

My father did not want to buy into it, but when I said: "Only 25 guilders!", the books were mine. I was in heaven, because I only had two books about chess by then. And they had been pretty expensive. He could not believe the books were that cheap.

At home I was puzzled by this hard cover. It were the 70s, but the book of the 'prodigies' seemed to have traveled straight from the fifties. While the other books had a modern 60s/70s cover.

I knew Fischer, but who the herk were those other guys!?? It kind of annoyed me, because the other books were about chess!

May-10-23
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  plang: 7..Bxc3 was new; 7..dxc 8 Bxc4..Bd6 followed by ..e5 is considered to be a better response to White's move order as here 7 a3 is not very useful (compared to 7 0-0..dxc 8 Bxc4..Bd6). Barsky suggested 13..Bd7 with the idea of ..b5 as an interesting alternative. 16..h5?! is a very odd looking move; it is hard to imagine that Fischer would have played a move like this five years later.
May-10-23
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  perfidious: <plang....16..h5?! is a very odd looking move; it is hard to imagine that Fischer would have played a move like this five years later.>

So it is, but in Gheorghiu vs Fischer, 1966, a line with similar themes, he again mishandled a strategically inferior position.

May-10-23  SChesshevsky: <16. h5?! is a very odd looking move...>

Think Reshevsky's 14. Ra2 and 15. Nf1 pretty much telegraphed his intention to swing the rook over for a king side assault . Probably with h3, g4 or maybe g4, h4.

Fischer already an expert on king side attacks knows he really doesn't want to let Reshevsky get too much space or open files there. So ...h5 ..h4 accomplishes that. Then Fischer tries to distract/counter on the queen side.

Unfortunately, seems Reshevsky's hanging center pawns are binding enough with the open f file to give white another, successful avenue of attack.

Aug-31-23  N.O.F. NAJDORF: <Happypuppet: After Rcc8, you'll have difficulty stopping mate threats without loss of material following Rxf7. (threatening Rxg7+ Kh8 Rh7+ Kg8 Qg7#)>

28...Rec8 29. Rxf7 R6c7 30. Rxg7+ and after black moves his king, white has nothing better than perpetual check.

Aug-31-23
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  beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> I'm not sure of your conclusion, but in any case 28...Rec8 <29. Qxf7+> Kh8 30. Re4 looks like an immediate win.
Aug-31-23
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  HeMateMe: Is this game from the match that Fischer walked away from?
Aug-31-23  N.O.F. NAJDORF: <beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> I'm not sure of your conclusion, but in any case 28...Rec8 <29. Qxf7+> Kh8 30. Re4 looks like an immediate win.>

28...Rec8 29. Qxf7+ Kh8 30. Re4 Nf6 31. Rxh4+ Nh7 32. Qf5 Bg8 and white's attack appears to be over.

Aug-31-23
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  beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> After 28...Rec8 29. Qxf7+ Kh8 30. Re4 Nf6 31. Rxh4+ Nh7 32. Qf5 Bg8 <33. d5>, Black's minor pieces are paralyzed and it's hard to stop the march of White's center pawns.
Aug-31-23  N.O.F. NAJDORF: I agree that 33. d5 wins, but I think I proved that 30. Re4 is not an immediate win.

I wonder whether Fischer saw that far, or whether he too overlooked 30 ... Nf6.

Sep-01-23
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  beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> OK, but in your other line, 28...Rec8 29. Rxf7 R6c7 30. Rxg7+ and black moves his king, then White has <31. Qg4> eyeing Qxc8 (if ...Rxg7) and Bc1+ discovering check (if ...Kxg7) so it doesn't look like <white has nothing better than perpetual check>.
Sep-01-23  N.O.F. NAJDORF: I agree that your idea leaves white two pawns up, which is obviously better than perpetual check.

I did see that idea, of taking the rook on c8 when it is no longer protected by the other rook, but in other variations.

Again, I would ask whether Fischer saw the move 31. Qg4.

Sep-01-23
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  beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> Fischer resigned, and a fairly short analysis shows that decision was justified by a large White advantage, so I see no reason to question how much Fischer saw here.
Sep-02-23  utssb: I'm probably missing something obvious but isn't 24...Rc2 an important intermezzo because if the Queen goes to g5 then ...Rf2, Kf2, ...Qd4+ and Be3 doesn't work because of the fork on e4.
Sep-02-23
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  harrylime: Can someone put up the Sousse Fischer v Sammy game where Fischer whacked Reshevski in 10 mins ??
Sep-02-23
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  harrylime:

In 61 Bobby was easily the best ...

I think in this match Fischer was still in awe of Reshevsji.

Fischer's rise was apocalyptic tho

Play this match even 6 months later and Reshevsji is dead meat

Sep-02-23
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  HeMateMe: <In 61 Bobby was easily the best ...>

Unless one considers Boris Spassky, whom Fischer ducked for 8 years.

Sep-02-23  N.O.F. NAJDORF: < I'm probably missing something obvious but isn't 24...Rc2 an important intermezzo because if the Queen goes to g5 then ...Rf2, Kf2, ...Qd4+ and Be3 doesn't work because of the fork on e4.>

After 24...Rc2

25. Qb4 wins a piece:

Qa4 26. exf6 Qxb4 27. Rxe8+

Rxf2 26. Kxf2 Nh5 27. Qxb3 Qxd4+ 28. Qe3

After your suggested line

25. Qg5? Rxf2 26. Kxf2 Qxd4+ 27. Be3

black could play simply

Qxe5

winning a second pawn

Sep-02-23  N.O.F. NAJDORF: An afterthought:

24...Rc2 25. Qb4 Qe6

loses to

26. d5

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