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Viktor Korchnoi vs Robert James Fischer
Curacao Candidates (1962), Willemstad CUW, rd 12, May-20
King's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation. Uhlmann-Szabo System (E62)  ·  0-1

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Aug-25-12  tivrfoa: 32. ♖c1??
If Korchnoi had at least draw this game, he would have a plus score against Fischer!!! =) Is there someone that has a plus score against Bobby? Thank you.
Aug-26-12
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  TheFocus: <tivrfoa> Several people have plus scores against Bobby.

Check out this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...

Sep-07-12  tivrfoa: Ty <TheFocus>
Mar-03-13  Garech: Amazing miss by Korchnoi; he must have been pissed!

-Garech

Mar-03-13  RookFile: I just played this over - this did have all the earmarks of a crush by white right until the blunder.
Mar-03-13
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  harrylime: Yeah but knowing Korchnoi the blunder is funny lol

And tbh in future games Bobby let him off the hook somewhat IMO.

Mar-04-13  lost in space: 32. Rc1 reminds me very much how I lose my games
Oct-19-13  Mudphudder: Absolutely love the ending in this game. Surprised it's not a GOTD yet....
Oct-19-13  Travis Bickle: <newzild: This game should be used as the definition of "swindle". Playing through the games between these two, I reckon Viktor had Bobby's measure.

I would be interested to hear Viktor's thoughts on Bobby as an opponent.> I heard Victor Korchnoi say that he always felt Fischer was better than him but yet he said he has played strong against many World Champions.

Mar-02-14
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  zydeco: 32.Qc2 and white's much better.

Fischer starts getting in trouble with 19....Bh6, which makes sense if he wants to follow up with .....f4, but he never does. 19....e4 is probably better.

Mar-02-14  BwanaVa: The only GM quality players I can find who have a plus score v. Fischer are Tal (who didn't play him a tournament game after 1962) and Geller. Of course, I am sure you can find lots of players with a 1-0 record against him from his early tournament days.
Mar-03-14
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  zydeco: <BwanaVa> Also Janosevic, who was a kind of journeyman grandmaster with a sharp style. He was +1=2-0 against Fischer (with the win in 1967).
Jun-14-16  ewan14: Did Korchnoi get into time trouble in his games
around 1971 ?
Jan-12-17  clement41: 32 Rc1? is flawed due to this cute counter-blow: 32...Qa7!

I love this tactic, whereby a seemingly lost piece is exploited to the full and enables a strong, usually agressive, counter-threat that saves this piece. This happens more often in practice than one'd think (I maintain a database of cute tactics that I come across, and have at least a dozen of this type) . The most famous one perhaps is Tal vs Hecht, 1962 24 ?


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It is slightly different from the game tactics in that the moving piece is not unpinning a pinned piece, though. But we can see clearly the same desperado fashion, and the fact that the apparently lost piece is used in a zwichenzug to attack an undefended enemy piece.

In the same fashion, here is another one (white to play of couse):


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Oct-08-19  seneca16: Does anyone have a plus score against Fischer? The commenter who says lots of people do supplied only a broken link to a list of people who have beaten Fischer. I doubt anyone does, though lots of Soviet players did when he was still a teenager. Maybe Geller still does.
Oct-08-19
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  plang: <Maybe Geller still does.>

Yes, and unlikely to change anytime soon.

Oct-08-19
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  beatgiant: <seneca16>
Here is an updated wikipedia link with his head-to-head scores against various top rivals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby...

Geller and Tal are the only ones listed with plus scores against him. Of course there are also people like Cesar Munoz who beat Fischer the one time they faced him.

Oct-08-19
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  harrylime: The Ruskies OWNED Chess back then ..

Fischer's trail blazing career should be measured against this ...

He beat the RUSKIES when they were ALL ganging up against him .

Feb-04-20  Howard: So, according to Stockfish, 31.Nb3 would have wrapped up the win for Korchnoi.
Jan-12-21
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  scutigera: Korchnoi had a counterattacking style that helped him against speculative attackers like Tal and Fischer, and didn't help him against calmer (not to say stolid) techniquey players like Karpov and Smyslov. That said, he has a lifetime plus against Petrosian, Uhlmann, and Reshevsky, none of whom was known for casting caution to the winds. He was just really really good, and anyone should be proud of a lifetime tie with him. If that's not enough for you, Fischer fans, consider that Bobby spent a much smaller proportion of his life at his peak ability than Korchnoi did.
Jan-12-21
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  perfidious: Hard to agree with the view that Fischer was a 'speculative attacker', and even Tal fared much better in his later encounters (1980s) with Korchnoi, after he reined it in a little.
Jan-17-21  Saul Goodman: Some of the Kibitzers have this notion that Korchnoi had success against Fischer because either Korchnoi “had his number,” or because Fischer was a “speculative attacker.” The real reason is that Bobby was 19 years old at the time of this game, and because he grew up in the US, didn’t really reach maturity as a player until his mid 20s. Once Fischer matured, Korchnoi was no longer in his league. I say this as a huge fan of Korchnoi.
Jan-17-21  fabelhaft: <Some of the Kibitzers have this notion that Korchnoi had success against Fischer because either Korchnoi “had his number,” or because Fischer was a “speculative attacker.” The real reason is that Bobby was 19 years old at the time of this game, and because he grew up in the US, didn’t really reach maturity as a player until his mid 20s. Once Fischer matured, Korchnoi was no longer in his league. I say this as a huge fan of Korchnoi>

Their last four games (including two blitz games, where they won one each) were played 1967-70, with an equal score. So Korchnoi did well against Fischer also in the last games between them, even though Fischer was the stronger player of the two at the time.

Jan-18-21  Petrosianic: Fischer was not a speculative attacker, at least not very often. He was aggressive, yes, but sound. Byrne or somebody talked about their analysis sessions, where Fischer would reject winning attempts that carried a risk of defeat. He was more like Alekhine than Tal in that respect.
Jan-18-21
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  perfidious: Believe Robert Byrne's quote went something to the effect that the great man chastised him, stating that 'you have to equalise before you try something'.
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