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Anthony Saidy vs Robert James Fischer
"When All is Saidy Done" (game of the day Mar-09-2007)
New York (1968), New York, NY USA, Nov-??
English Opening: King's English Variation. Reversed Closed Sicilian (A25)  ·  0-1



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Apr-12-09  WeakSquare: Fine game. Fischer is putting all pressure on d3, and he even brings the rook in.

Ra6-Rb6-Rb3...haha wonderful

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  technical draw: The only Fischer game of 1969. At least on this database. Anyone have any other games?
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  technical draw: Wade comments after 18..Ra6:

"This move seems to carry it to an extreme, as it requires great judgement to sense that the rook is not being put out of play."

To which Fischer replies:

"Judgement, schmudgement, I'll put another rook "out of play"....22..Ra6!

Jul-24-09  TheFocus: <drukenknight> Fischer also played in the Metropolitan League in 1956, where he scored +4=1-0; and in 1957, where he scored +4=0-0. The game E. Hearst - Fischer is available here at ChessGames. None of his other game-scores have been found.
Jul-13-10  TheFocus: This game was not played in 1969, but in November 1968. Chess Review of December 1968 mentions it.

This was pointed out in Karsten Mueller's new book on Fischer, as pointed out to him by Andy Soltis; but I already knew about it. That is one of two things I saw him correct, although Mueller made about a dozen mistakes.

Mar-03-11  Wyatt Gwyon: Fischer blows my mind at times. 18 Ra6 is a move that never would have even entered my brain for a second.
Mar-04-11  Ulhumbrus: An alternative to 10 Na4 is 10 Be3 supporting the pawn advance d3-d4.
Jun-05-11  hedgeh0g: Fritz 11 gives White a big advantage after the simple 8.fxe5 and it's difficult to find a convincing continuation for Black. 8...Bxf2+ ultimately just leaves Black down two pieces for a rook. Best, perhaps, is pinning the pawn with ...Qe8 or ...Re8, but White still has a significant advantage according to Fritz.
Jan-10-12  Petrosianic: <TheFocus> <This game was not played in 1969, but in November 1968. Chess Review of December 1968 mentions it.>

Where? I'm looking, but not seeing it.

Jan-10-12  TheFocus: <Petrosianic> I will look it up for you tonight.

It was also in New York Times, complete with cross-table.

I put November, but I think December is correct.

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  Phony Benoni: This New York Times article referring to the game is dated December 2, 1968 (Monday)

It refers to "The <recent> match between the Manhattan and Marschall Chess Clubs...", which makes it seem almost certain to be November. Had it been December 1, Horowitz might have said "yesterday's match" instead.

That's still not absolute proof, and I can't find a reference to the match itself or a preview.

Jan-11-12  TheFocus: The match is mentioned as having been played in November in a small article in <Chess Review>, January 1969, pg. 6; and then in <Chess Review> February 1969, pg. 36, where the pairing results are listed. That is where I made the cross-table from.

Thanks to <Petrosianic> for catching my mistake about it being listed in December. That would have been too soon for a magazine to have printed it.

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  Penguincw: In this game, Fischer doesn't put much pressure on the kingside. Looks more of a queenside attack.
Jan-11-12  Garech: Fantastic game; Fischer at his crystal clear, dynamic best. Very itneresting gambit too - great notes above at how there may not be much for black in it - I'm sure Fischer had a lot of tricks up his sleeve. Never heard of the 'Fischer Gambit' before - has it been officially recognised?


Jan-11-12  King Death: <Garech> Have you ever seen the anti Sicilian system 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bc4 e6 6.f5? Here's a game where a GM goes down in the variation: C Bouzoukis vs Wojtkiewicz, 1997.
Jan-11-12  TheFocus: Arnold Denker relates the folowing:

<During the team match, I spent more time analyzing Bobby's game than my own effort against Andy Soltis. And for good reason! Bobby played a novel and stunning sacrifice as early as move six. When I told him afterward that the sacrifice seemed sound, he replied with his customary clipped objectivity, "No, it was unsound," and proceeded to show us why.>

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  HeMateMe: Weren't he and Fischer friends, as teenagers?
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  FSR: <HeMateMe> And beyond. Fischer stayed in Saidy's parents' house immediately prior to leaving for Iceland in 1972. Saidy was instrumental in finally persuading him to go to Iceland and play Spassky. Fischer's presence was a huge imposition on Saidy and his family, since Saidy's father was dying of cancer at the time. For heaven's sake, watch the BBC documentary on Fischer (titled "Bobby Fischer Against the World" in the U.S. and "Genius and Madman" in the U.K.), in which Saidy talks about all this:
Jan-12-12  RookFile: <During the team match, I spent more time analyzing Bobby's game than my own effort against Andy Soltis. And for good reason! Bobby played a novel and stunning sacrifice as early as move six. When I told him afterward that the sacrifice seemed sound, he replied with his customary clipped objectivity, "No, it was unsound," and proceeded to show us why.>

Right. Fischer knew that during the game, and even went so far as to write a "?" on his scoresheet next to his ...f4 move.

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  FSR: Bizarrely enough, Karpov vs J M Bellon Lopez, 1973 repeated this game through White's 23rd move. Incidentally, I believe that the present game was the inspiration for the line in the Grand Prix Attack 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bc4 e6, seen in such immortal games as K Thompson vs F Rhine, 1992.
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  FSR: No one <ever> plays the refutation 8.fxe5 - not Saidy, not Karpov, not this guy: S Steindorsson vs O Simonsen, 2001. Everyone plays 8.Nge2?
Jan-12-12  King Death: <FSR> After 8.fe I looked for awhile at tries like 8...Bf2+ 9.Kf2 Ng4+ 10.Qe2 Ne5 (10...Nh1 11.Bh1 doesn't seem to get very far) 11.Nf3 but never managed to find much of an attack. White's king floats around some but he's getting developed and ahead in material.
Jan-13-12  kurtrichards: 35. ... Be4 with an idea of 36. ... Qh1# is a mistake because of 36. Ra1. The rook escapes at the same time defending h1. So, 35. ... Qxa5 0-1.
Jan-09-14  Catfriend: Famously featured in
Nov-23-14  Ke2: the reverse grand prix
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