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Efim Geller vs Robert James Fischer
Palma de Mallorca Interzonal (1970), Palma de Mallorca ESP, rd 12, Nov-24
Neo-Grünfeld Defense: Ultra-delayed Exchange Variation (D79)  ·  0-1

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Oct-28-13
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  perfidious: <keypusher>: Indeed; even in those days it was well known that the position you cite remained no more than a draw until Geller blundered.
Oct-28-13
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  AylerKupp: <<Wyatt Gwyon> Naw, he was just fortunate that Fischer didn't know the en passant rule.>

Fischer certainly knew the en passant rule. But he thought that it only applied to Communist cheaters, not to him.

Oct-28-13  Conrad93: I know the en passant rule. I don't remember anyone mentioning that it had to be on the fifth or fourth rank.
Oct-28-13  Conrad93: Fischer didn't win because he played it out, he won because his opponent blundered an easy draw.
Oct-28-13  enpassant jadoube: Hello Conrad, long time no see. Nobody knows me like you!
Oct-28-13  PaulLovric: <Conrad93: Fischer didn't win because he played it out, he won because his opponent blundered an easy draw.> i think you are batting in the wrong league here, there are masters negating everything you say about this game, and the rules of chess, not to mention, RJF, arguably the greatest of all GMs, and you keep posting infernal blithering about the most ridiculous things. I am sure you are just learning, and obviously, you are new to chess but for the love of god go and do some research.
Oct-28-13  Wyatt Gwyon: <<Conrad93><I know the en passant rule. >> You might know it now, but you most certainly did not know it on October 25.

<<Conrad93><Fischer didn't win because he played it out, he won because his opponent blundered an easy draw.>>

If you are unfamiliar with the basic rules of chess, please do us all a favor and spare us your assessment of rook endgames (and Paul Morphy).

Oct-28-13  Agent Bouncy: Please do not be too hard on Conrad93. He is very lonely and doesn't have any friends.
Oct-28-13  Conrad93: <Please do not be too hard on Conrad93. He is very lonely and doesn't have any friends.>

This coming from a chess player is highly amusing.

Oct-28-13  Conrad93: 1. All Geller had to do was play 71. Kg6. It is a very obvious move.

2. Paul Morphy was great for his time, but in modern times he would be easily crushed. All-out attacks no longer work in professional circles, and are restricted to patzers and beginners.

Like I said before, his games aren't that interesting. They are too simple minded for my tastes.

I prefer Steinitz, and so far my comments have not been refuted.

But keep going with your insults if it makes you feel nice and safe.

Oct-28-13  PaulLovric: refuted....on so many levels
Oct-28-13
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  diceman: <Conrad93: Fischer didn't win because he played it out, he won because his opponent blundered an easy draw.>

Geller didn’t blunder.
The Russians ordered Geller to throw the game.
They hoped it would make Fischer overconfident during the candidates cycle.

Oct-28-13  PaulLovric: 1ST REFUTATION: <conrad93> your choice or preference for Steinitz is totally your own opinion, but to say that Paul Morphy's, "games aren't that interesting. They are too simple minded for my tastes." is completely IGNORANT. Fischer said Morphy, "was perhaps the greatest genius of all." But I can forgive you, my own rating is about 1000 points lower than Fischer's and i have been playing for over 15 years, and I have a big advantage over you.....I know the rules of the game. What is your chess rating? Do you actually play the game or are you a serial pest?
Oct-28-13
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  diceman: <Conrad93: Fischer didn't win because he played it out, he won because his opponent blundered an easy draw.>

Now thats funny!

Oct-28-13
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  diceman: <Conrad93:
I prefer Steinitz>

In his time,
Steinitz was known as the "en passantinator."

Oct-29-13  Conrad93: Fischer had Morphy fever. It messed with his rationality.
Nov-08-13
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  Pawn and Two: Here is a very confusing explanation of the "en passant" rule, published more than a century ago in "The British Chess Code", and retained as late as 1918 in, "The International Chess Code" - London & New York 1918.

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

Jan-03-14  PJs Studio: Of earn GM's don't seem to fight this hard in endings. Great win against a Super player!
Jan-08-14  PJs Studio: Of earn GM's should read "modern GM's" in my comment above.
Jan-08-14  RookFile: For the most part, Geller defended very well in this game after getting into trouble, before going astray.
Mar-06-14
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  whiteshark: 71.Rd8 Ra5+ 72.Ke4 g2 (72...Kh3 73.Rh8+ Kg2 74.f5= (Vasyukov)) 73.Rg8 Kh3 74.Kf3 Ra3+ 75.Kf2 Ra2+ 76.Kf3 Kh2 77.f5=

71.Kg6 Ra6+ 72.Kf5 Ra8 73.Rd7 Rf8+ 74.Ke4 Rg8 75.Kf3= (Lilienthal)

Jan-07-17  The Boomerang: "Fischer had Morphy fever. It messed with his rationality."

Lololol...exactly....the same way people have Fischer fever....

Aug-30-19  PJs Studio: Fischer wore down Geller in this ending with a vengeance! Amazing scientific approach by the to-be world champion.
Aug-31-19  BUNA: <PJs Studio: Fischer wore down Geller in this ending with a vengeance! Amazing scientific approach by the to-be world champion.>

No, the game was dead equal after 67... g3 (or even after 63.. g4). Geller threatened to give his rook in the right moment (69. ... Kh2 70.Kg4 g2 71.Rh3+ Kg1 72.f5 Kf2 73.Rg3 g1Q 74.Rxg1 Rxg1 75.Kh5 =) So Fischer had to retreat his King with 69...Kh4 and could not enhance his position anymore.

Geller simply dropped his pawn with 71.Ke5. He probably relaxed to early.

Would you call it an "amazing scientific approach" when Nakamura wins K+R vs K+R?

Sep-26-19  PJs Studio: I disagree. He wore the super powerful GM Geller down and exhausted him with constant pressure in a dead equal yet complex ending.

Fischer’s “scientific” approach was what catapulted him to the top. Even when he wasn’t winning he kept up the pressure until his opponent cracked. I could say Fischer was “inexhaustible” but I chose scientific. How do you describe his play here?? He won right? Geller played great. Almost earned the draw right? So what happened to the 1/2-1/2?

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