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Duncan Suttles vs Robert James Fischer
Palma de Mallorca Interzonal (1970), Palma de Mallorca ESP, rd 20, Dec-07
Alekhine Defense: Exchange Variation (B03)  ·  0-1

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Sep-13-05  centercounter: <Mating Net: <centercounter> The Orton game you mentioned was in 1990, nice win for you in that one. Overdue congrats.>

Thank you very much. I am humbled and honored that you took the time to look up that game. I was very pleased with it. Bill is a class act and very pleasant to play and analyze with.

A funny story was that during the game, I had gone to the loo, and when I returned, on my way back, I looked at Jesse Kraai's game. His adversary was away and it was the adversary's turn. I got so absorbed in the game that I made a move and hit the clock as it were my game... Fortunately, Jesse has a sense of humor...

<kamiel: That does not gain a tempo at all, as white won't play 10. Qd4+ (which is a bad place as it gets driven away there with tempo) but just continues his development. Fischers move is a lot better>

I stand corrected - it gains a tempo in the Qd4+ lines parallel to the stem game. I see your argument that perhaps Qd4+ causes a great deal of White's woes in my game, but I do not think I stand worse if he does not do so. Calling it "a lot better" needs concrete proof.

Sep-13-05
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  IMlday: I suspect Fischer chose 1..Nf6 because he didn't want Spassky (and crew) knowing how he would deal with the Closed Sicilian which was then Spassky's big weapon.
Jan-19-06  Hanzo Steel: Soltis annotates 7. d5!?

"The night before this game Suttles worked out a new idea based on trading off bishops via d4."

I think it might not be a bad idea. Black's bishop can be bothersome for White in this opening, but 10. e5! might bust it.

Jan-23-06  centercounter: <Hanzo Steel: I think it might not be a bad idea. Black's bishop can be bothersome for White in this opening, but 10. e5! might bust it.>

The problem is that 10. ... e5 is simply not hard to find. White's King is still in the center. Once he castles Queenside, the black e-Pawn is backward and .. e5 loses some "oomph."

In my game with NM Orton (reference above), which, due to an error pointed out by kamiel, put me a tempo up on this game, I came also out of the opening pleasantly both in the game and in the postmortem. Still I hesitate to call it a "bust" as I tend to save that word for a forced win.

... e5 tends more to shift the leverage to Black, although I'd not put a at the end of the lines yet. :P

Jan-23-06  RookFile: If I recall right, White missed a chance for some play with an early h4 and h5.
Jan-24-06  centercounter: In this game, yes. In my game, Orton tried it and amounted to nothing. While I am pleased with my game, I must humbly admit that I am only 2100 USCF rated and it is not to be considered "theory" unlessed pronounced so by someone with a few letters before their name :)
Jan-24-06  Ziggurat: <If I recall right, White missed a chance for some play with an early h4 and h5.>

Larsen gives short notes to this game in his book ZOOM 001. He annotates 7. d5 as follows:

"An interesting idea which might be improved by means of 7. h4!? h5 8. d5. In the game continuation 12. h4 has been suggested. Later on you will see an unclear position where White ought to play 17. f3. Of course the exchange of Bg7 gives White certain possibilities of an attack, but his White-squared bishop is bad in view of his pawn structure (c4+d5). On the other hand - Black must lose time in order to re-activate Nb6."

And further down:

"White is down and out, but the idea of 7. d5 merits attention and ought to be tried again."

Jun-04-06  CapablancaFan: White would have to give up his bishop to keep the pawn from queening.
Oct-20-06  centercounter: <Ziggurat: <If I recall right, White missed a chance for some play with an early h4 and h5.> Larsen gives short notes to this game in his book ZOOM 001. He annotates 7. d5 as follows:

"An interesting idea which might be improved by means of 7. h4!? h5 8. d5. In the game continuation 12. h4 has been suggested. Later on you will see an unclear position where White ought to play 17. f3. Of course the exchange of Bg7 gives White certain possibilities of an attack, but his White-squared bishop is bad in view of his pawn structure (c4+d5). On the other hand - Black must lose time in order to re-activate Nb6.">

The h4/h5 plan was used in my game, as was the f3 plan, and did not improve White's game.

I certainly think the d5 idea is creative and well-founded, and it deserves further research and by all means should not be rejected out-of-hand just from this one game, and of course, not from my experience, which can only be considered at the 2100 level to equivalent to "monkeys and typewriters".

Sep-19-08  notyetagm: <AdrianP: Fischer has an Alekhine's Gun formation both laterally (momentarily after move 29) and vertically (after move 33). Is this unique...? Does anyone know of an Alekine's Gun formation being used laterally to any great effect...? >

29 ... ♖f8xf4


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33 ... ♕e7-f6


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<ALEKHINE GUN: queen behind the doubled rooks>

An <ALEKHINE GUN> in an <ALEKHINE DEFENSE> game. Gee, what are the odds of that happening? :-)

Sep-19-08
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  tamar: <An <ALEKHINE GUN> in an <ALEKHINE DEFENSE> game. Gee, what are the odds of that happening? :-)>

Fischer must have been drunk. The lateral Alekhine's Gun is hilarious.

Sep-19-08  notyetagm: <tamar: <An <ALEKHINE GUN> in an <ALEKHINE DEFENSE> game. Gee, what are the odds of that happening? :-)> Fischer must have been drunk. The lateral Alekhine's Gun is hilarious.>

But it *is* visually stunning, no?

:-)

Sep-19-08
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  tamar: Yes,<notyetagm> it is amazing how even laterally the gun dominates the board.
Jul-31-10  Phony Benoni: Perhaps when there is both a horizontal and lateral Alekhine's Gun in the same game, they should be called the Alekhine's Transformers.
Aug-01-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  tamar: Or Fischer's Random Gun.
Sep-05-11  Helios727: If white had played 11. dxe6 e.p., would black respond with Bxe6 or fxe6, and why?
Feb-19-12  Ulhumbrus: 14 Qh6 neglects White's development. Instead of this 14 Be2 gets the bishop out.

16 Nd2 is passive. However on 16 Nd4 Ne5 attacks the c4 pawn a second time

21 f4 invites Black to open the e file. Instead of this 21 Qd4 avoids letting the advance ...f4 come with tempo by attacking the queen on e3.

Apr-22-12  screwdriver: I loved the game. It was well played right out of the opening by Fischer. In the final position it looked like white would have to give up at least his bishop to prevent Fischer from queening. And maybe even wouldn't be able to stop the pawn from queening.
Feb-19-13  Garech: Hadn't seen this one before - a nice little game from Fischer!

-Garech

Feb-20-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: Suttle's poor LSB--the little fellow was a glorified pawn, for the entire game.
Nov-18-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <Hanzo Steel: Soltis annotates 7. d5!?

"The night before this game Suttles worked out a new idea based on trading off bishops via d4.">

S Webb vs B Cafferty, 1968

Of course, that's not to say Suttles knew about the earlier game.

Mar-16-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  hoodrobin: There are two kind of beautiful games: the clash of the titans, or Beethoven game, when Fischer manages to outplay a very strong opponent, and the Mozart game, when Fischer plays the piano with players like Duncan Shulter.
Mar-10-15  Garech: A masterclass from Fischer; inspirational play against the Canadian chess god Suttles.

-Garech

Jul-25-15  fisayo123: Typical Fischer game. Just observe how directly and bluntly he plays from move 11-24. No "suttle" moves, just straight for the gauntlet.
Oct-21-19
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  Eggman: <fisayo123> "(Fischer's) games are really not difficult to understand, but who else could play like this?" - Nigel Short
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