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Boris Spassky vs Robert James Fischer
"Bish, You Were Here" (game of the day Apr-13-2019)
Spassky - Fischer World Championship Match (1972), Reykjavik ISL, rd 1, Jul-11
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Gligoric System Bernstein Defense (E56)  ·  1-0

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Boris Spassky vs Robert James Fischer (1972) Bish, You Were Here


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May-15-19
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  beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> <Fischer was reported to have denied that when he took the KRP he thought he could escape via e1.>

I have not heard this before. Where was it reported?

Fine wrote that Fischer told him he missed 32...h3 33. Kg4 Bg1 34. Kxh3 Bxf2 <35. Bd2>, i.e. he thought he could escape via e1. But Fine wrote a lot of other nonsense about this match, so if there's a better source with a contrary report, I'd be inclined to believe it.

May-15-19
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  beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> <I do recall that in the television recording, Fischer clasped his nose with his hands and looked heavenward in despair some time after having made his pawn grab.

This certainly discredits the claim that he threw the game.>

Number one, I never heard anyone claim that he threw the game. Number two, I can't imagine that he would throw the game. Number three, even if he did somehow throw the game, wouldn't he also be able to play act the "look of despair" described above?

Jun-13-19  tdh1967: Computers showed long ago 39....f5 loses. Any possibility of a draw after this is zero. It's a draw up to this point based on deep computer analysis. The win has been verified on my computer every since six piece syzygy databases have been available because the program can see forced lines leading into a winning result. Software with six piece syzygy does prove a loss after Fischer's 39th move. In chessbase GUI, run a blunder check with Stockfish at even at only two minutes per move on modern machine and the mate announcements will be revealed all the way back to this particular move. I found nothing without the software
Jun-13-19
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  harrylime: What is the fascination with this game ???

Itz a bore draw at best. ...

Oh YEAH GET IT ...

BOBBY FISCHER LOST. 😎👍

Jun-13-19
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  beatgiant: It's a lot of people trying to claim that 29...Bxh2 is not as bad as it looks.
Jun-13-19
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  Count Wedgemore: <beatgiant> I think it's even worse than it looks :)
Jun-13-19
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  harrylime: <beatgiant: It's a lot of people trying to claim that 29...Bxh2 is not as bad as it looks.>

I could make a case for Bobby Fischer being the BEST chess player in the world throughout most of the 60's ... And de facto WORLD CHAMPION in the 60's.

This is just one game. And one move.

lol lol lol

Jun-13-19  RookFile: I think Gligoric put Bxh2 rather well in his book. He basically said there is a difference between being brave and foolhardy.

I think the problem is, let's say for the sake of argument that there was no problems with the move and Spassky was forced to play gxh4 to let the bishop out. Congratulations, you've weakened Spassky's pawn structure - but he gets a draw anyway.

In other words, the reward you would get is not worth the risk taken.

Jun-13-19
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  harrylime: <RookFile: I think Gligoric put Bxh2 rather well in his book. He basically said there is a difference between being brave and foolhardy. I think the problem is, let's say for the sake of argument that there was no problems with the move and Spassky was forced to play gxh4 to let the bishop out. Congratulations, you've weakened Spassky's pawn structure - but he gets a draw anyway.

In other words, the reward you would get is not worth the risk taken.>

What exactly are you trying to say here ??? lol lol

Jun-14-19  RookFile: Simply stated, you don't play the risky Bxh2 because even if it works it's still only a draw.
Aug-31-19  KID Slayer: <beatgiant> I agree with you entirely.

There's a video that points out that 29...Bxh2 was in fact a blunder from the get-go and provides a plethora of variations showing Spassky always comes out on top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8D...

Sep-06-19  N.O.F. NAJDORF: For the claim that Fischer threw the game:

https://gardinerchess.com.au/gm-rog...

Sep-07-19
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  harrylime: <N.O.F. NAJDORF: For the claim that Fischer threw the game: https://gardinerchess.com.au/gm-rog...

Bobby threw the game .. and ?? lol lol lol

Dec-25-19
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  Mountain1: < harrylime: <N.O.F. NAJDORF: For the claim that Fischer threw the game: https://gardinerchess.com.au/gm-rog... Bobby threw the game .. and ?? lol lol lol>

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did throw the game, who else could become world chess champion after losing the first two games...NO ONE ELSE...where is that link old boy?

Dec-31-19  jerseybob: If only Bobby had stayed sane long enough to write his second game collection, we'd know for sure what he was thinking. But the idea that he threw the game? No way! At this point he had never beaten Spassky, and wanted so badly to do it, the siren song of a "free pawn" caused him to throw himself on the rocks.
Jan-01-20
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  morfishine: So he slipped, big deal

He won the match, which is a big deal

Jan-01-20
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  harrylime: Is this the most famous/talked about chess game ever ???
Jan-01-20
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  harrylime: In some kinda graphic re aesthetics and pyros in a game versus fame and notoriety, this game has to be TOPS ...
Jan-01-20
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  AylerKupp: <<jerseybob> But the idea that he threw the game? No way!>

See my hypothesis about Fischer not only losing this game on purpose as well as his premeditated forfeit of the second game in the match at Fischer vs Spassky, 1972 (kibitz #110). Just don't take it too seriously.

Jan-01-20
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  harrylime: Bobby Fischer Against The World
https://youtu.be/V14gXuzRdp4

Bobby is the Ali of chess. The Greatest.

Jan-01-20
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  harrylime: Bobby Fischer in de Dick Cavett Show 1972

https://youtu.be/zIE3CFNpZ5Y

Jan-01-20
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  harrylime: <<AylerKupp: <<jerseybob> But the idea that he threw the game? No way!> See my hypothesis about Fischer not only losing this game on purpose as well as his premeditated forfeit of the second game in the match at Fischer vs Spassky, 1972 (kibitz #110). Just don't take it too seriously.>>

I beleeeeeeeeeeve in yooooooze ❤️️❤️️😎😁

Jan-01-20
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  MissScarlett: <Hazz>, stop it!
Jan-01-20
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  harrylime: <<MissScarlett: <Hazz>, stop it!>>

For yoooooooze . ❤️️❤️️

Jan-02-20  PaulLovric: < AylerKupp: <<jerseybob> But the idea that he threw the game? No way!> See my hypothesis about Fischer not only losing this game on purpose as well as his premeditated forfeit of the second game in the match at Fischer vs Spassky, 1972 (kibitz #110). Just don't take it too seriously.> He definitely threw the first two games on purpose, he knew he was that good.
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