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Aivars Gipslis vs Yuri S Razuvaev
URS 60 years rapid (1982), Moscow URS
French Defense: Winawer Variation (C15)  ·  1-0

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Sep-01-12  James D Flynn: ONCE, I doubt that 26.c3 wins because of Bf6 and if 27.Qb4+ Be7 inviting repetition. If White tries Qe4 Rxc3+ creates chances forcing a long K walk. I hadn't considered 26,Qe5 or Qe3, maybe I should fire up Rybka, which I got for analyzing adjourned positions when I return to tournament chess(I haven't played since 1992).
Sep-01-12
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  Once: Peace, peace, folks!

<LTJ> is entitled to his opinions, just as I'm entitled to ignore them. Not worth a fight.

Sep-01-12
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  perfidious: The first noticeable feature of the puzzle is that Black has only one piece which can cause his opponent any bother, the dark-squared bishop. This suggests 26.Rxe7 Rxe7 27.hxg5. Once 27....Rh7 has been played, then 28.Qd6 leaves Black bound hand and foot. How Razuvaev must have wished to have his queen, proud leader of the early attack, back in the fold, instead of on her lonesome mission to a1, beyond supply lines.

Rather than forcing lines, this PotD is a good example of positional understanding, supplemented by short tactical variations to finish the job.

Sep-01-12  LoveThatJoker: <solskytz> With all due respect to <Once>, he is nowhere near master level - this is just being honest. If you read some of his critiques on GOTD's you can tell that he has a brutal (i.e., inexperienced) practical appreciation for the game.

This said, although I have spoken the truth about him, I do recognize that I was too strong.

This said, it is important that he abide by the proper etiquette and state at all times he uses an engine that he is basing his conclusions on them - in this instance, his conclusions were not based on his own work and he should be, courteous and honest enough to say so.

LTJ

PS. <perfidious> You are funny!

Sep-01-12  solskytz: <Perfidious> well for me it's the first time I meet that source in a negative way - and I was actually slightly surprised. Generally I'm used to long analyses coming from him in solving PsOTD.

Regarding <once> and putting things a bit more precisely - of course HE doesn't need our protection, but it would be a shame for this community if he can be attacked in such a blunt, inane manner without anybody saying anything...

Sep-01-12  solskytz: Well I see that simultaneously to my last post Ltj keeps insisting that <once> is a weak player. As far as I'm concerned he goes to ignore, like any other vehement or flaming troll, his very respectable playing strength notwithstanding.

Sorry there Ltj. You just can't keep writing bs about a great contributor to this website. I'd rather spare myself your postings.

Sep-01-12  solskytz: <once> it is a well known principle that he who wants peace must always be ready to war :-)

of course it doesn't apply to flaming in a chess website. Here, after trying to reason, I also choose the ignore policy...

see you on another POTD sometime soon, where you're sure to bring a smile and brighten up a day

Sep-01-12  rilkefan: Since I recommended 26.c3 above as a way to exploit the position of the black queen, I should perhaps see what stockfish says. At a depth of 22 it assesses the position as +7 after ...Rxc3 27.Qxc3 Rc6 28.Bc4 Bf6 29.Qb4+ Kg7 30.Re4. After 26...g4 27.Kc2 Rd7 28.Qe3 white's picking up the queen; 26...Bb5 is similar. 26...Bf6 loses to Qd6. ...b5 and ...a5 don't help - 27.hxg5 and 28.Kc2 as before.
Sep-01-12
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  Once: For the avoidance of doubt, and in case anyone is the slightest bit interested, this is my approach to POTD.

I ALWAYS try to solve the POTD under tournament conditions. No Fritz, no writing down moves, no moving the pieces. Just me, the CG.com home screen, a cup of black coffee and usually one too many chocolate biscuits.

I have long since decided that no-one is interested in whether I solve a puzzle or not, so I usually don't bother saying. I'm not interested in boasting about how quickly I solved it or how many I have solved in a row. That's a private matter for me and only me.

I NEARLY ALWAYS check my kibitzes with Fritz. I wouldn't want anyone to be misled anything I have written down or offer anyone a poor piece of advice.

In both my my main kibitzes today, the ideas were based on good old fashioned human analysis and were checked with Fritz.

I would not want to comment on someone else's analysis unless I was sure. And, for me, that means using a program like Fritz. In one I mentioned Fritz, in the other I didn't. So sue me.

And if the thought police are interested, I also use google, a spell-checker, a library of several hundred chess books and I have even been known to consult a weather forecast before deciding whether to take a raincoat or not.

Sep-01-12  solskytz: I do wonder if I guessed right about your playing strength...

if it isn't as I thought still big kudos for producing such amazing pieces of clever insight and analysis...

I just can't see how a non-strong player can reach such levels of penetration into the essence of positions as you do, fritz or no fritz.

I remember that when translating My System into Hebrew, I was about 1900 strength (which of course isn't close to master level), and it was clear to me that if I was weaker than I just wouldn't be up to the translation task...

Some things you just need to understand in order to be able to write about. In original writing it's even more evident, the way I see it.

Sep-01-12  sfm: <Once: For the avoidance of doubt...> We think very similarly about real many things. Take it as a compliment. :-)
Sep-01-12  sfm: <LTJ: With all due respect to Once, he is nowhere near master level - this is just being honest. ...>

The odd thing is that you need to express an opinion about another poster's strength. I'm sure we all can get more or less justified ideas regarding, but believe me, by commenting on it there is nothing to win and a lot to lose. Don't be honest here - be smart!

Apart from above, I much welcome your dedication and contributions. Keep that part of it up.

Sep-01-12  solskytz: <sfm> loved these posts
Sep-01-12
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  whiteshark: Put it in an appropriate collection.
Sep-01-12  Dr. J: So far there has been a lot of trouble disposing of 26 Rxe7 Rxe7 27 hxg5 Rg6. Several commenters have continued 28 Qh8+ Rg8 29 Qh6+ Rg7 30 g6!, but so far only <cyclon> spotted the defense 30...Kg8!. But <cyclon's> continuation 31 Rd8? fails against Re1+.

At this point, may I suggest 31 f4 intending f5 and f6? I do not see a way for Black to defend, e.g.,

A: 31...Rd7 32 Re1 Rd8 33 f5

B: 31...Bd7 32 f5 Bxf5? 33 Rd8+

C: 32...Bc6 33 f5 (33 Rd8+ also works) Rd7 34 Rxd7 Bxd7 35 f6

Sep-01-12
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  Tiggler: <solskytz: I do wonder if I guessed right about your playing strength...>

I often think it is more interesting to wonder that to know about our colleagues on the forum. Usually I only care about what they say, but occasionally curiosity gets the better of me and I take a peek at a bio to see if a member has disclosed anything interesting.

When I saw your mention on this page of My System, I thought, "Surely he can't mean Nimzovitch's masterpiece?"

So, I went to your bio, and there it is. Wow. If I could read Hebrew, I would immediately get a copy to see if you did a good job. Since I can't, I'll just assume that you did as good a job as his English translator, Philip Hereford, and that the great master's genius and wit shine just as clearly in Hebrew.

Sep-01-12  solskytz: <whiteshark> I'm not that keen on preservation... rather let life happen at the moment
Sep-01-12
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  Eggman: Hey, all.

What's wrong with 26.Qe5? Doesn't this win a piece?

Sep-01-12
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  Tiggler: <Eggman>

See correspondence between me and <LoveThatJoker> about this move, starting on page 1 of this thread.

Sep-01-12  DavidD: LoveThatJoker. I teach college-level writing and am a published author. As a professional writing instructor, I can state you are totally oblivous to the tone and demeaning manner of many of your posts. Statements like "It is clear you are a weak player and analyst" and "With all due respect to Once, he is nowhere near master level" have only one interpretation--they are personal attacks and insults. You may or may not be a strong chess player but clearly you haven't mastered the art of effective communication.

In fact, many of your behaviors are odd: the number of your posts per game (far more than anyone else), replying to anyone who comments on any of your posts (mostly a waste of space), habitually posting your solving score for the week (who else does this--and to the tenth of a decimal??), rushing to Stockfish for some kind of "silicon truth", and an almost obsessive compulsion to defend your ideas as the best.

You are not the owner nor moderator of this webpage. It is not your duty to tell others what their posts should or should not look like. Anyone can post virtually anything anytime they like. You don't set the criteria.

Fortunately, members like Once are far more lucid and memorable than you. They are the reason to read the kibitzes, not your posts. If you want to improve your communication skills, stick to objective comments about the chess position and chess analysis. Don't mention another member by name. Think about these comments. Don't reply defending yourself nor attacking me. One time, accept the feedback.

I see by the number of comments here that my attitude is shared by many. I also e-mailed chessgames.com a rough draft of this post asking for permission to post it as it is a direct comment on another member's behavior and not on chess. I received permission to post my comments.

Sep-01-12  Conrad93: I saw 26. Rxe7 and didn't bother with the rest.
Sep-01-12  solskytz: <Tiggler> this was definitely my intention, as the wit, spark and humor of the author shine brightly in the English work (as close as I got to the original) - such as 'the two theaters of war', the 'little drama that unfolds between the a-pawns' (if you remember) and other gems and pearls of truly exquisite writing, which educates and tickles at the same time...

This book has been greatly used in chess clubs in Israel for the last 12 years since I translated it. I got some great feedback for it, so I hope that I did something to make my mommy proud :-)

Sep-01-12
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  Tiggler: <solskytz>: <I hope that I did something to make my mommy proud>

The steriotypical ambition of every good Jewish boy. But if you are not a doctor or a lawyer ....

Sep-01-12
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  OhioChessFan: 2020, the first woman nominated for the Presidency, proud of her Jewish heritage. As she walks up to the microphone to officially accept the nomination, her mother sits in the audience, proud of her offspring. Mom turns to an attractive young lady sitting next to her and says "See that woman up there? Her brother is a doctor."
Sep-01-12  pokerplayer: < Dr. J: So far there has been a lot of trouble disposing of 26 Rxe7 Rxe7 27 hxg5 Rg6. Several commenters have continued 28 Qh8+ Rg8 29 Qh6+ Rg7 30 g6!, but so far only <cyclon> spotted the defense 30...Kg8!. But <cyclon's> continuation 31 Rd8? fails against Re1+.>

I don't see why Re1+ is a defense. After 31 ... Re1+, 32. Kd2 Qg1 (Rd1 32. Kd1 Qg1 33. Ke2 also is fine for White) 33. Re8+ Re8 34. gf+ Rf7 35. Qg6+ Kh8 36. Qh5+ Rh7 37. Qe8+ Kg7 38. Qf7+ Kh6 39. Qf6+ Kh5 40. g4+ White gets the 2nd rook and wins easily.

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