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Anthony Miles vs Vlastimil Hort
"Hort's So Good" (game of the day Nov-17-2012)
Amsterdam OHRA (1982), Amsterdam NED, rd 8, Jul-15
Queen Pawn Game: Veresov Atack. Veresov Variation (D01)  ·  0-1

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Dec-13-05  EmperorAtahualpa: I also found 42...Rg8! It seemed like the only feasible move to me, trapping White's King in his own pawns. However, I did not see the entire continuation as <Crafty> calculated above.
Dec-13-05
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  Richard Taylor: I solved this - an interesting game.
Dec-13-05  erimiro1: I don't have any explanation for the horrible blunder of Miles, but a psycological effect of a player who plays bad (as <esticles> mentioned), defend himself quite well, and suddenly improves his position. But then, instead of playing carefuly and draw, his self confidence knocks him out by a careless move. Happens a lot.
Dec-13-05  sleepkid: <KingG> you would comment on the opening... lol.
Dec-13-05  RookFile: Hort was a very strong player.
Dec-13-05  prinsallan: Got it.
Dec-13-05  Drifter: looks like a composition
Dec-13-05  LIFE Master AJ: 42...Rg8! with the idea of 43...Rg4#.

This one actually took me a couple of minutes, but I was thinking a lot of random thoughts.

I took on-line lessons from a GM a couple of years ago, and he gave me a lot of problems to solve. We worked quite a bit on questions of strategy, and also the endgame.

So I was running through all the things that I remebered about dual-rook endings. Then I started to actually analyze, the first 30 seconds or so, there did not appear to be any solution.

Then I began to think that maybe there was an error in the position, when the solution almost literally jumped off the page at me.

Dec-13-05  ReikiMaster: <WannaBe: Everybody, <aw1988> is pulling your legs.> Yes, I feel taller now! Not too tough for tuesday to spot Rg8 nor white's best plan of keeping black tied to defending f7.
Dec-13-05  YouRang: It's funny how different people's brains work. I was surprised to see that some (who are doubtless better chessplayers than I) had difficulty with this puzzle.

I thought this was one of the easiest puzzles I can recall. The winning move 42...Rg8 is practically the ONLY viable move. The white king is trapped and defenseless against 43. Rg4 and mate.

Dec-13-05
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  kevin86: A middle game solution to an endgame puzzle.After only 26 moves,we are down to 4 rooks and fourteen pawns!

White's king is in a cul-de-sac;his only escape is to give black a pawn and the huge initiave-more than enough for a master to win.

Dec-13-05  erimiro1: <YouRang>At least one GM (the late Anthony Miles who died only 46 yrs. old) also failed to solve the puzzle. Why? probably because the position is not common and you have to see that the 2 black rooks, that from the first sight seem harmless, can find the way to help each other to reach the white king that looks safe.
Dec-13-05  NakoSonorense: Zolvd thiz puzzle in 3 zecondz
Dec-13-05  vinohradska: I liked 13... Bxc5. White has some big choices after that move. Did he make the right one? How about 14. Qxb7? Or just accept the sac and play 14. dxc5. I can see that white is getting into trouble, after those moves, but is the trouble so bad?
Dec-13-05  YouRang: <erimiro1> No argument here.
Dec-13-05  ChessMan94: Unless I'm missing something, after white's last move, 43... Rg4+ is not mate. White can escape with 44. Ke3
Dec-13-05  YouRang: <ChessMan94> No, you're not missing anything - I overstated the bleakness of White's position earlier. However, although White can avoid immediate mate, it's going to cost him three pawns: 43...dxe4(#1) 44. Ke3 Rxf3+(#2) 45. Ke2 Rfxg3(#3), and black still enjoys the initiative.

Miles made some mistakes in this game, but resigning wasn't one of them.

Dec-13-05
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  Richard Taylor: <erimiro1: <YouRang>At least one GM (the <late> Anthony Miles who died only 46 yrs. old) also failed to solve the puzzle. Why?> Could it be that he was looking for the solution, but sadly, the solution came to him too late?
Dec-13-05  chesscrazy: I missed it! This puzzle seems like one of the hardest puzzles I have ever seen. Why not 14.dxc5? That's what I would play like <vinohradska> said. This puzzle still makes me feel confused after all that kibitzing other people did to explain the solution.
Dec-13-05  YouRang: <chesscrazy><I missed it! This puzzle seems like one of the hardest puzzles I have ever seen. Why not 14.dxc5?> You do realize that the puzzle was to find Black's winning tactic on move 42, yes? :-|
Dec-13-05  s4life: I saw it in a couple of seconds... then again, that's not always the case :)
Dec-13-05  HannibalSchlecter: I didn't find this to be a hard puzzle only because black's entry points were limited. Rooks look for files to penetrate on. The one rook is nicely placed, so we need to activate the other rook, so Rg8 seems reasonable.
Dec-13-05  TTLump: 13... Bxc5!?

NOT 14.dxc5? Nxc5, 15.Qa3 Nd3+, 16.Kd2 Nxf2 ... and black has three pawns and a sustainable seige of the white King for his bishop, ie: 17.Rg1 Qc7, 18.g3 Ng4, 19.Bg2 (NOT 19.h3 Nxe3, 20.Kxe3 Qe5+!)Nxh2, etc., with the threat of the h-pawn advancing and clearing the path for BOTH black rooks!

I think Miles played the best move in this position, 14. Nf4, giving up the pawn and consolidating his position while doubling black's a-pawn. Where I think he stumbled is 16.Qb7?? which gives up two tempo! Much better would have been 16.Nxg6 fxg5 17.Rc1, etc.

Why he didn't see the obvious 16 ... Qc8! is a mystery. Down a pawn, he must be wary of equal exchanges that dissipate his positional advantage.

Dec-13-05  DP12: Miles should probably have swaped the queens. and then traded knight for bishop. I can't imagine that black is really too much better despite being a pawn up it is after all a doubled a -pawn and the rest of blacks pawns are not so great either. Q:c8 R:c8 Ng6 f:g6 Na4 c5!?(otherwise I doubt white is worse Rc1 and Nc5) and if d:c5 Bc5 with the idea Rc1 Bb4+ Ke2 is maybe what he was thinking about and I think it is not so bad for white. But, I think that instead of Rc1 white can even take on c5 with a drawish ending
Dec-13-05  TTLump: <DP12> yes, after 16.Qb7? Qc8, the Queen swap becomes unavoidable, ... 17.Qb3? simply compounds the error, but I still think he should try to avoid the Queen swap at the outset.
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