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Anthony Miles vs Vlastimil Hort
"Owner of a Lonely Hort" (game of the day Aug-11-2015)
London (1983)
Caro-Kann Defense: Bronstein-Larsen Variation (B16)  ·  1-0

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Nov-12-07
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  Jimfromprovidence: <whitebeach> <BTW, I'm whitebeach, not whiteshark, who's another poster entirely.>

Sorry about that. I did notice that error after I had posted.

Nov-12-07  whitebeach: <Jimfromprovidence> No problem. BTW, I looked over the position again (after the proposed move 27 . . . Nxg2), and it seems to me that while your 28. Kxg2 is good, maybe even better is 28. Qg3!

The primary threats are obvious: 29. Qxd6+ and either 29. Qxg2 or 29. Kxg2. I'd be interested to see what reply you see for black. The point is that if black takes the queen by 28 . . . Qxg3, after 29. fxg3 the black knight is trapped.

Nov-12-07
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  Jimfromprovidence: <No problem. BTW, I looked over the position again (after the proposed move 27 . . . Nxg2), and it seems to me that while your 28. Kxg2 is good, maybe even better is 28. Qg3! The primary threats are obvious: 29. Qxd6+ and either 29. Qxg2 or 29. Kxg2. I'd be interested to see what reply you see for black. The point is that if black takes the queen by 28 . . . Qxg3, after 29. fxg3 the black knight is trapped.>

28 Qg3 is a wasted move. Since I can take the knight right away without repercussion, that's what I should do, right? If I play 28 Qg3, black would play 28... Qxd4 and I would lose a pawn as well as the initiative.

Nov-12-07  whitebeach: <Jimfromprovidence: 28 Qg3 is a wasted move. Since I can take the knight right away without repercussion, that's what I should do, right? If I play 28 Qg3, black would play 28... Qxd4 and I would lose a pawn as well as the initiative.>

Right. For some reason I seem to be trying to create complications where there’s no need for them. Speaking of which, though: after 28. Qg3, besides 28 . . . Qxd4, black also has 28 . . . f4?! with some fascinating possibilities that (as best I can tell) will probably lead to a draw.

Nov-12-07
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  Jimfromprovidence: <whitebeach> Right. <For some reason I seem to be trying to create complications where there’s no need for them. Speaking of which, though: after 28. Qg3, besides 28 . . . Qxd4, black also has 28 . . . f4?! with some fascinating possibilities that (as best I can tell) will probably lead to a draw.>

Since 28 Qg3 is a lousy move, then white will not play it as it would be an error.

If you think black can draw or win after 27… Nxg2 , then you have to assume white’s playing 28 Kxg2, then start from that point. Then you need to lay out a specific series of forcing moves that black can employ to attain that goal.

Nov-13-07  whitebeach: <Jimfromprovidence: Since 28 Qg3 is a lousy move, then white will not play it as it would be an error.

If you think black can draw or win after 27… Nxg2 , then you have to assume white’s playing 28 Kxg2, then start from that point. Then you need to lay out a specific series of forcing moves that black can employ to attain that goal.>

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that in my opinion (as in yours), after 27 . . . Nxg2, 28 Kxg2 would have won. However, since black did not in fact play 27 . . . Nxg2, I also thought it was pretty obvious we were discussing hypothetical lines. Nor do I see any reason to assume that in this hypothetical continuation white would necessarily make the one "right" move. If chess worked that way, nobody would play it, or talk about it here. I simply pointed out a couple of possible moves that many players might try over-the-board and that lead to interesting complications. If that's not your cup of tea, my apologies.

Nov-14-07
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  Jimfromprovidence: A great thing about chess is that it’s both very creative as well as very analytical.

One always should feel free to hypothesize and work out different scenarios than the ones played in the game.

Once an alternative variation is put out for review and then agreed upon not to be viable, however, then you have to go back to the drawing board and try something different.

Nov-17-07  whitebeach: <Jimfromprovidence: A great thing about chess is that it’s both very creative as well as very analytical.

One always should feel free to hypothesize and work out different scenarios than the ones played in the game.

Once an alternative variation is put out for review and then agreed upon not to be viable, however, then you have to go back to the drawing board and try something different.>

Very well said, and certainly true in general.

As for the specific move 28. Qg3, however, I don’t see any reason to see it as “agreed upon not to be viable.” After your 28 . . . Qxd4 and the obvious 29. Kxg2, the position is not simply a replica of the preceding one with white having a pawn less. There are several new resources for white. The long diagonal is now open for possible exploitation by his queen or bishop, the queen is looking at d6 as an attacking square, and an immediate h4 is possible (if the Ng5 is successfully reinforced by a pawn, black can never exchange a R for the white B and N).

So what does black do next? The most obvious and perhaps best attempt is 29 . . . Re8. My reply is 30. h4. Now 30 . . . Qd5+ 31. Kh2 Re1 would be harsh except for 32. Qc3+. Black could also try to get at the h pawn by 30 . . . Re4, but after 31. Kh3 the R will have to either retreat or advance because of the threat of Nxe4+. And, say, 31 . . . Re1 is a trap holding because of 32. Be3. If 31 . . . Re2, likewise 32. Be3. The point is that black can’t play Qxb2 because white then mates in four starting with Qd6+. This theme appears in other potential lines.

So what else can black try after 29. Kxg2? Maybe Rh8, but after 30. Bf4 he has problems. If, for example, 30 . . . Qxb2? 31 Re1, he will never survive the coming storm.

All I’m saying is that a position like this is not as cut-and-dried as you suggest. Your move 28. Kxg2 is simple and good and should win. But this does not mean that 28. Qg3 is therefore a bad move, particularly if black’s reply is no better than 28 . . . Qxd4. In this position too, white should win, and the analysis of the possibilities is of course enjoyable in itself.

May-01-15
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  offramp: The kibitzing on this superb, fighting game reminds me of a midrash. It's what chessgames.com is all about!
Aug-11-15
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  Penguincw: I liked the pun, but doing some Google research, it was even better.

"Owner Of a Lonely Hort" is a pun on "Owner Of a Lonely Heart", which is a song released in the same year as the game was played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELp...

As for what "lonely heart" actually means, apparently it's "a person looking for a lover or friend by advertising in a newspaper". :| (I should try that; what do I have to lose)

Aug-11-15  ASchultz: A Hortbreaking attack, for sure.
Aug-11-15
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  offramp: Today's GoTD is titled, "Owner of a Loney Hort". Hort is a pun on Heart. Loney I'm not sure about. But the game was played in London. Perhaps Loney is a shortening of Londony. Or is it a portmanteau of Lonely and Loony? Miles was a bit of a loony.

That must be it. It's a misprint for Pwner of a Loony Hort.

Aug-11-15  siggemannen: The only Yes-song that made it to #1 in the US if i recall correctly.
Aug-11-15
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  offramp: <siggemannen: The only Yes-song that made it to #1 in the US if i recall correctly.>

Also the only Yes song less than thirty minutes long.

Aug-11-15
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  offramp: I don't know what has changed about Google but a few years ago Yes was one of those bands that was very hard to search for. Nowadays they are the top search result out of the 2,320,000,000 results.

The hardest band to search for was one of my favourites: The The. Now even that decrepit group is the top search result out of - count them - 25,270,000,000 results.

Googlos to kudos.

Aug-11-15  abstract: Poor miles could have offered a rook odds in this game and still wins
Aug-11-15
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  sfm: Silly pun. Love it!
Aug-11-15
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  thegoodanarchist: <Penguincw: ... As for what "lonely heart" actually means, apparently it's "a person looking for a lover or friend by advertising in a newspaper". :| (I should try that; what do I have to lose)>

The song says that the owner of a lonely Hort is much better than the owner of a broken Hort.

So maybe there is something to lose?

Also, a couple has to be careful. Two people together cannot misplace the railroad line, otherwise they suffer from Toulouse Lautrec syndrome.

Aug-11-15
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  offramp: It is NOT Lonely. It is Loney. Look again!
Aug-11-15
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  kevin86: White's attack, fueled by the queen, penetrated deep into black's gut.
Aug-11-15
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  offramp: <kevin86: White's attack, fueled by the queen, penetrated deep into black's gut>

"Orchestrated" seems a better word. Fueled would suggest that she'd been consumed.

Aug-11-15
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  thegoodanarchist: < offramp: It is NOT Lonely. It is Loney. Look again!>

I was responding to <Penguincw>'s post about the song! And the song says "lonely".

And the card says Moops!

Aug-11-15
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  Penguincw: < offramp: It is NOT Lonely. It is Loney. Look again! >

Oops.

Aug-11-15
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  jith1207: <Penguincw> Good luck on the advertisement!
Aug-11-15
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  tamar: Better than Owner of a BoKen Hort
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