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Vladimir Kramnik vs Vasyl Ivanchuk
"Gruen Felled" (game of the day Jan-05-2006)
Paris PCA-Intel GP (1995) (rapid), Paris FRA, rd 2, Nov-11
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Modern Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  1-0



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Jan-05-06  sfm: All Black needs in the final position simply is a chess program that allows him to play 29.-,Qf7 and he will be OK - for some moves more...
Jan-05-06  Timothy Glenn Forney: lol I copied the typo,if fact 26.Qe6+ also works with Rxh5 next.
Jan-05-06  prinsallan: Someone says black is ok ^^
ok ok. 29.... Kf8 (only decent move)

What about the double threat of 30. Rxg6.
Now black has 3 choices.
1. Rook exchange, with white soon winning the other Rook while loosing own queen but gaining another Queen (30...Rxg6+ 31. Qxg6 Rg7 32. Qxg7+ Kxg7 33. d7 wins). 2. Resign (he did the right thing ^^)
3. Counterattack (as a computer would do): 30... Qf1+ (Immediatly loosing the Queen but delaying the attack for one move :D)

Well, that was my tu-pence.

Jan-05-06  InfiniteWombat: <prinsallan>

If 29 ... Kf8,
then 30. Rf5+ and the Queen is still lost.

Jan-05-06  JoeStrummer: Just superb. elementary tactics at the end, but seeing the position 15 moves ahead is the trick. Well, it would be fun to have that talent.
Jan-05-06  dakgootje: Yup black is pretty lost I assume, however i wouldnt resign yet =)
Jan-05-06  HannibalSchlecter: Black is out of options. Destination Resignation!
Jan-05-06  PaulLovric: <fgh: First! Nice game :-)> lol i thought the fun was over
Jan-05-06  Bricklayer: As an utter beginner I tremble to set forth that I won for White against ARASAN (for what that is worth?) after 29......Kh7 30. Rxh5+ gxh5 31. Qxc4 Rxd6 32. e5 Rxg3+ 33. Kxg3 Rxg6+ 34 Kh4 Kg7 and so forth until 50. e8=Q ending with 2 Queens and 3 Pawns against only the black King. But again, ARASAN probably wasn't particularly strong here.
Jan-05-06  CowardlyKnight: Kramnik made Ivanchuk look like a patzer.
Jan-05-06  DeepBlade: <Blingice> Never trust Chessmasters analysis. Use Fritz or Crafty instead.
Jan-05-06  psmith: <al wazir> In your line after 30. Rd5?? Black has Rg8 winning the queen. (31. Rf5+ Ke6 32. Rf6+ Kd7 33. Rg6 Rxg6 34. Qxg6 Rg8.)

Therefore your line seems to lead at best to a perpetual after 30. Qxh5+.

So 26. Rxh5 throws away the win. If I am wrong, can you show me why?

<Timothy Glenn Forney> On Qe6+ in either of your suggestions, why doesn't the black Queen on c4 just take the white queen?

Jan-05-06  ReikiMaster: Excellent play by Kramnik. After 29.Qe6+ resignation is fully justified: all King moves lose black Queen and 29...Rdf7 30.d7 or 29...Rgf7 30.Qxg6+ are even worse.
Jan-05-06  euripides: I like the way that the king's scramble for safety via f1 and g2 leads to a very harmonious position for White.
Jan-05-06  blingice: <DeepBlade> It was my problem: I didn't put the ♖ on g3.
Jan-05-06  patzer2: Kramnik's 29. Qe6+! finishes off an efficient attack against Ivanchuk's weakened Kingside castled position.

Fritz 8 analyzes the following possibilities after 29. Qe6+:

<29. ♕e6+ 1-0>

Black resigned in lieu of 29...♔h7

[29... Rdf7 30. d7 and the pawn promotes with mate to soon follow.

29... Rgf7 30. Qxg6+ Rg7 31. Qe8+ Kh7 32. Rxh5#

29... Kh8 30. Rxg6 Rxg6+ 31. Qxg6 Rg7 32. Qxg7+ Kxg7 33. d7 yields a winning passed pawn.

29... Kf8 30. Rxg6 Qc3 31. Rf5+ Rgf7 32. Rxf7+ Rxf7 33. Qc8#]

30. ♖xh5+ gxh5 31. ♕xc4 winning the Black Queen with a discovered check.

Jan-05-06  kevin86: A keen ending! White either wins by checking with the rook to expose black's queen or he mates.
Jan-05-06  patzer2: Perhaps instead of 10. Bxc3+, Black can obtain a better game with the more popular opening move alternative 10. Ne5 as in L E Johannessen vs Sutovsky, 2005 or R Dos Santos vs Kudrin, 2005 or Krasenkow vs B Avrukh, 2004.

According to the Opening Explorer, White won 64% of a smaple of 25 games after 10...Bxc3+, but only 34% of 134 games after 10...Ne5 (Black won 22% with 44% draws).

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  al wazir: <psmith: In your line after 30. Rd5?? Black has Rg8 winning the queen. Therefore your line seems to lead at best to a perpetual after 30. Qxh5+.>

You're right about black's 28...Rg8. (It's 28, not 30; I misnumbered the moves.) White does have an alternative to a perpetual, however: 28. Qe7+ Kg8 29. Rd5. If 29...Qxd5 then 30. fxd5. White can expect to pick up either the a or the h pawn, but his two pairs of doubled pawns don't look very encouraging. If black plays Rg8+ white hides the king on h2.

Jan-05-06  EmperorAtahualpa: I thought 10.d5 was a really interesting move! I had a look at it with Crafty, here's what I found:

♙ analysis after 9...Nc6:

10.O-O cxd4 11.cxd4 Nxd4 12.Nxd4 Qxd4 13.Qc2 Qc3 14.Qxc3 Bxc3 15.Rd1 Re8 16.Bf4 e5 17.Bg5

(eval. -0.58; depth 14 ply; 200M nodes)

♙ analysis after 10.d5:

10...Bxc3+ 11.Bd2 Bxd2+ 12.Qxd2 Na5 13.O-O f6 14.Qh6 Qc7 15.e5 Bf5 16.exf6 exf6 17.Rb5 b6 18.Rd1 Qd6 19.Rb2

(eval. -0.84; depth 15 ply; 500M nodes)

Jan-05-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <According to the Opening Explorer, White won 64% of a smaple of 25 games after 10...Bxc3+, but only 34% of 134 games after 10...Ne5 (Black won 22% with 44% draws).>

<patzer2> I've tried to find the same page as you're referring to, but couldn't find it! Could you please give me the link? Many thanks in advance.

Jan-05-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Beautiful game by Kramnik, it's a shame he will not play at the upcoming Corus tournament.

And an elegant pun too!

Jan-05-06  patzer2: <EmperorAtahualpa> I used the Opening Explorer, which is available to all paying members under "explore this opening" just below the board on each recorded game. Note that the opening transposes a bit earlier to reach 10...Bxc3+ in this line.
Jan-07-06  psmith: <al wazir>
In your new line Black can also try to hang on with 28...Kg6 29. Rd5 Qc1. I am getting this from Fritz 5.32, which evaluates the position as = after 30. Re5 Qf4 31. Rf5 Qxf5 32. exf5+ Kxf5. Maybe unclear is a better evaluation. In any case Kramnik's continuation seems better than 26. Rxh5!? After that, Old Fritz can't find anything better than Ivanchuk's losing reply and continuation.
Jan-08-06  popski: Only real Masters can play such way...
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