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Jan-05-06 | | sfm: All Black needs in the final position simply is a chess program that allows him to play 29.-,Qf7 and he will be OK - for some moves more... |
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Jan-05-06 | | Timothy Glenn Forney: lol I copied the typo,if fact 26.Qe6+ also works with Rxh5 next. |
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Jan-05-06 | | prinsallan: Someone says black is ok ^^
ok ok. 29.... Kf8 (only decent move)
What about the double threat of 30. Rxg6.
Now black has 3 choices.
1. Rook exchange, with white soon winning the other Rook while loosing own queen but gaining another Queen (30...Rxg6+ 31. Qxg6 Rg7 32. Qxg7+ Kxg7 33. d7 wins).
2. Resign (he did the right thing ^^)
3. Counterattack (as a computer would do): 30... Qf1+ (Immediatly loosing the Queen but delaying the attack for one move :D) Well, that was my tu-pence.
-Prinsallan |
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Jan-05-06 | | InfiniteWombat: <prinsallan>
If 29 ... Kf8,
then 30. Rf5+ and the Queen is still lost. |
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Jan-05-06 | | JoeStrummer: Just superb. elementary tactics at the end, but seeing the position 15 moves ahead is the trick. Well, it would be fun to have that talent. |
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Jan-05-06 | | dakgootje: Yup black is pretty lost I assume, however i wouldnt resign yet =) |
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Jan-05-06 | | HannibalSchlecter: Black is out of options. Destination Resignation! |
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Jan-05-06 | | PaulLovric: <fgh: First! Nice game :-)> lol i thought the fun was over |
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Jan-05-06 | | Bricklayer: As an utter beginner I tremble to set forth that I won for White against ARASAN (for what that is worth?) after 29......Kh7 30. Rxh5+ gxh5 31. Qxc4 Rxd6 32. e5 Rxg3+ 33. Kxg3 Rxg6+ 34 Kh4 Kg7 and so forth until 50. e8=Q ending with 2 Queens and 3 Pawns against only the black King. But again, ARASAN probably wasn't particularly strong here. |
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Jan-05-06 | | CowardlyKnight: Kramnik made Ivanchuk look like a patzer. |
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Jan-05-06 | | DeepBlade: <Blingice> Never trust Chessmasters analysis. Use Fritz or Crafty instead. |
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Jan-05-06 | | psmith: <al wazir> In your line after 30. Rd5?? Black has Rg8 winning the queen. (31. Rf5+ Ke6 32. Rf6+ Kd7 33. Rg6 Rxg6 34. Qxg6 Rg8.) Therefore your line seems to lead at best to a perpetual after 30. Qxh5+. So 26. Rxh5 throws away the win. If I am wrong, can you show me why? <Timothy Glenn Forney> On Qe6+ in either of your suggestions, why doesn't the black Queen on c4 just take the white queen? |
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Jan-05-06 | | ReikiMaster: Excellent play by Kramnik. After 29.Qe6+ resignation is fully justified: all King moves lose black Queen and 29...Rdf7 30.d7 or 29...Rgf7 30.Qxg6+ are even worse. |
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Jan-05-06 | | euripides: I like the way that the king's scramble for safety via f1 and g2 leads to a very harmonious position for White. |
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Jan-05-06 | | blingice: <DeepBlade> It was my problem: I didn't put the ♖ on g3. |
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Jan-05-06 | | patzer2: Kramnik's 29. Qe6+! finishes off an efficient attack against Ivanchuk's weakened Kingside castled position. Fritz 8 analyzes the following possibilities after 29. Qe6+: <29. ♕e6+ 1-0>
Black resigned in lieu of 29...♔h7
[29... Rdf7 30. d7 and the pawn promotes with mate to soon follow. 29... Rgf7 30. Qxg6+ Rg7 31. Qe8+ Kh7 32. Rxh5#
29... Kh8 30. Rxg6 Rxg6+ 31. Qxg6 Rg7 32. Qxg7+ Kxg7 33. d7 yields a winning passed pawn. 29... Kf8 30. Rxg6 Qc3 31. Rf5+ Rgf7 32. Rxf7+ Rxf7 33. Qc8#] 30. ♖xh5+ gxh5 31. ♕xc4 winning the Black Queen with a discovered check. |
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Jan-05-06 | | kevin86: A keen ending! White either wins by checking with the rook to expose black's queen or he mates. |
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Jan-05-06 | | patzer2: Perhaps instead of 10. Bxc3+, Black can obtain a better game with the more popular opening move alternative 10. Ne5 as in L E Johannessen vs Sutovsky, 2005 or R Dos Santos vs Kudrin, 2005 or Krasenkow vs B Avrukh, 2004. According to the Opening Explorer, White won 64% of a smaple of 25 games after 10...Bxc3+, but only 34% of 134 games after 10...Ne5 (Black won 22% with 44% draws). |
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Jan-05-06
 | | al wazir: <psmith: In your line after 30. Rd5?? Black has Rg8 winning the queen. Therefore your line seems to lead at best to a perpetual after 30. Qxh5+.> You're right about black's 28...Rg8. (It's 28, not 30; I misnumbered the moves.) White does have an alternative to a perpetual, however: 28. Qe7+ Kg8 29. Rd5. If 29...Qxd5 then 30. fxd5. White can expect to pick up either the a or the h pawn, but his two pairs of doubled pawns don't look very encouraging. If black plays Rg8+ white hides the king on h2. |
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Jan-05-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: I thought 10.d5 was a really interesting move! I had a look at it with Crafty, here's what I found: ♙ analysis after 9...Nc6:
10.O-O cxd4 11.cxd4 Nxd4 12.Nxd4 Qxd4 13.Qc2 Qc3 14.Qxc3 Bxc3 15.Rd1 Re8 16.Bf4 e5 17.Bg5  (eval. -0.58; depth 14 ply; 200M nodes)
♙ analysis after 10.d5:
10...Bxc3+ 11.Bd2 Bxd2+ 12.Qxd2 Na5 13.O-O f6 14.Qh6 Qc7 15.e5 Bf5 16.exf6 exf6 17.Rb5 b6 18.Rd1 Qd6 19.Rb2  (eval. -0.84; depth 15 ply; 500M nodes) |
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Jan-05-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <According to the Opening Explorer, White won 64% of a smaple of 25 games after 10...Bxc3+, but only 34% of 134 games after 10...Ne5 (Black won 22% with 44% draws).> <patzer2> I've tried to find the same page as you're referring to, but couldn't find it! Could you please give me the link? Many thanks in advance. |
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Jan-05-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Beautiful game by Kramnik, it's a shame he will not play at the upcoming Corus tournament. And an elegant pun too! |
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Jan-05-06 | | patzer2: <EmperorAtahualpa> I used the Opening Explorer, which is available to all paying members under "explore this opening" just below the board on each recorded game. Note that the opening transposes a bit earlier to reach 10...Bxc3+ in this line. |
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Jan-07-06 | | psmith: <al wazir>
In your new line Black can also try to hang on with 28...Kg6 29. Rd5 Qc1. I am getting this from Fritz 5.32, which evaluates the position as = after 30. Re5 Qf4 31. Rf5 Qxf5 32. exf5+ Kxf5. Maybe unclear is a better evaluation. In any case Kramnik's continuation seems better than 26. Rxh5!? After that, Old Fritz can't find anything better than Ivanchuk's losing reply and continuation. |
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Jan-08-06 | | popski: Only real Masters can play such way... |
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