chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Vladimir Kramnik vs Vassily Ivanchuk
"Gruen Felled" (game of the day Jan-05-2006)
Paris PCA-Intel GP (1995) (rapid), Paris FRA, rd 2, Nov-11
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Modern Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 15 times; par: 31 [what's this?]

Get this game explained with Decode Chess
explore this opening
find similar games 112 more Kramnik/Ivanchuk games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Olga is our default viewer, but we offer other choices as well. You can use a different viewer by selecting it from the pulldown menu below and pressing the "Set" button.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jan-05-06  sfm: All Black needs in the final position simply is a chess program that allows him to play 29.-,Qf7 and he will be OK - for some moves more...
Jan-05-06  Timothy Glenn Forney: lol I copied the typo,if fact 26.Qe6+ also works with Rxh5 next.
Jan-05-06  prinsallan: Someone says black is ok ^^
ok ok. 29.... Kf8 (only decent move)

What about the double threat of 30. Rxg6.
Now black has 3 choices.
1. Rook exchange, with white soon winning the other Rook while loosing own queen but gaining another Queen (30...Rxg6+ 31. Qxg6 Rg7 32. Qxg7+ Kxg7 33. d7 wins). 2. Resign (he did the right thing ^^)
3. Counterattack (as a computer would do): 30... Qf1+ (Immediatly loosing the Queen but delaying the attack for one move :D)

Well, that was my tu-pence.
-Prinsallan

Jan-05-06  InfiniteWombat: <prinsallan>

If 29 ... Kf8,
then 30. Rf5+ and the Queen is still lost.

Jan-05-06  JoeStrummer: Just superb. elementary tactics at the end, but seeing the position 15 moves ahead is the trick. Well, it would be fun to have that talent.
Jan-05-06  dakgootje: Yup black is pretty lost I assume, however i wouldnt resign yet =)
Jan-05-06  HannibalSchlecter: Black is out of options. Destination Resignation!
Jan-05-06  PaulLovric: <fgh: First! Nice game :-)> lol i thought the fun was over
Jan-05-06  Bricklayer: As an utter beginner I tremble to set forth that I won for White against ARASAN (for what that is worth?) after 29......Kh7 30. Rxh5+ gxh5 31. Qxc4 Rxd6 32. e5 Rxg3+ 33. Kxg3 Rxg6+ 34 Kh4 Kg7 and so forth until 50. e8=Q ending with 2 Queens and 3 Pawns against only the black King. But again, ARASAN probably wasn't particularly strong here.
Jan-05-06  CowardlyKnight: Kramnik made Ivanchuk look like a patzer.
Jan-05-06  DeepBlade: <Blingice> Never trust Chessmasters analysis. Use Fritz or Crafty instead.
Jan-05-06  psmith: <al wazir> In your line after 30. Rd5?? Black has Rg8 winning the queen. (31. Rf5+ Ke6 32. Rf6+ Kd7 33. Rg6 Rxg6 34. Qxg6 Rg8.)

Therefore your line seems to lead at best to a perpetual after 30. Qxh5+.

So 26. Rxh5 throws away the win. If I am wrong, can you show me why?

<Timothy Glenn Forney> On Qe6+ in either of your suggestions, why doesn't the black Queen on c4 just take the white queen?

Jan-05-06  ReikiMaster: Excellent play by Kramnik. After 29.Qe6+ resignation is fully justified: all King moves lose black Queen and 29...Rdf7 30.d7 or 29...Rgf7 30.Qxg6+ are even worse.
Jan-05-06  euripides: I like the way that the king's scramble for safety via f1 and g2 leads to a very harmonious position for White.
Jan-05-06  blingice: <DeepBlade> It was my problem: I didn't put the ♖ on g3.
Jan-05-06  patzer2: Kramnik's 29. Qe6+! finishes off an efficient attack against Ivanchuk's weakened Kingside castled position.

Fritz 8 analyzes the following possibilities after 29. Qe6+:

<29. ♕e6+ 1-0>

Black resigned in lieu of 29...♔h7

[29... Rdf7 30. d7 and the pawn promotes with mate to soon follow.

29... Rgf7 30. Qxg6+ Rg7 31. Qe8+ Kh7 32. Rxh5#

29... Kh8 30. Rxg6 Rxg6+ 31. Qxg6 Rg7 32. Qxg7+ Kxg7 33. d7 yields a winning passed pawn.

29... Kf8 30. Rxg6 Qc3 31. Rf5+ Rgf7 32. Rxf7+ Rxf7 33. Qc8#]

30. ♖xh5+ gxh5 31. ♕xc4 winning the Black Queen with a discovered check.

Jan-05-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: A keen ending! White either wins by checking with the rook to expose black's queen or he mates.
Jan-05-06  patzer2: Perhaps instead of 10. Bxc3+, Black can obtain a better game with the more popular opening move alternative 10. Ne5 as in L E Johannessen vs Sutovsky, 2005 or R Dos Santos vs Kudrin, 2005 or Krasenkow vs B Avrukh, 2004.

According to the Opening Explorer, White won 64% of a smaple of 25 games after 10...Bxc3+, but only 34% of 134 games after 10...Ne5 (Black won 22% with 44% draws).

Jan-05-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <psmith: In your line after 30. Rd5?? Black has Rg8 winning the queen. Therefore your line seems to lead at best to a perpetual after 30. Qxh5+.>

You're right about black's 28...Rg8. (It's 28, not 30; I misnumbered the moves.) White does have an alternative to a perpetual, however: 28. Qe7+ Kg8 29. Rd5. If 29...Qxd5 then 30. fxd5. White can expect to pick up either the a or the h pawn, but his two pairs of doubled pawns don't look very encouraging. If black plays Rg8+ white hides the king on h2.

Jan-05-06  EmperorAtahualpa: I thought 10.d5 was a really interesting move! I had a look at it with Crafty, here's what I found:

♙ analysis after 9...Nc6:

10.O-O cxd4 11.cxd4 Nxd4 12.Nxd4 Qxd4 13.Qc2 Qc3 14.Qxc3 Bxc3 15.Rd1 Re8 16.Bf4 e5 17.Bg5

(eval. -0.58; depth 14 ply; 200M nodes)

♙ analysis after 10.d5:

10...Bxc3+ 11.Bd2 Bxd2+ 12.Qxd2 Na5 13.O-O f6 14.Qh6 Qc7 15.e5 Bf5 16.exf6 exf6 17.Rb5 b6 18.Rd1 Qd6 19.Rb2

(eval. -0.84; depth 15 ply; 500M nodes)

Jan-05-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <According to the Opening Explorer, White won 64% of a smaple of 25 games after 10...Bxc3+, but only 34% of 134 games after 10...Ne5 (Black won 22% with 44% draws).>

<patzer2> I've tried to find the same page as you're referring to, but couldn't find it! Could you please give me the link? Many thanks in advance.

Jan-05-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Beautiful game by Kramnik, it's a shame he will not play at the upcoming Corus tournament.

And an elegant pun too!

Jan-05-06  patzer2: <EmperorAtahualpa> I used the Opening Explorer, which is available to all paying members under "explore this opening" just below the board on each recorded game. Note that the opening transposes a bit earlier to reach 10...Bxc3+ in this line.
Jan-07-06  psmith: <al wazir>
In your new line Black can also try to hang on with 28...Kg6 29. Rd5 Qc1. I am getting this from Fritz 5.32, which evaluates the position as = after 30. Re5 Qf4 31. Rf5 Qxf5 32. exf5+ Kxf5. Maybe unclear is a better evaluation. In any case Kramnik's continuation seems better than 26. Rxh5!? After that, Old Fritz can't find anything better than Ivanchuk's losing reply and continuation.
Jan-08-06  popski: Only real Masters can play such way...
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: RAPID. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
29. Qe6+!
from Weakened Castled Position by Jaredfchess
29. Qe6+!
from Weakened Castled Position by Miguel Medina
Absentee's favorite games
by Absentee
"Gruen Felled"
from Games of the day 3 by Herkus
psychler's favorite games
by psychler
Vladimir Kramnik's Best Games
by alip
8...O-O 9.Be2 Nc6 10.d5 Bxc3+ 11.Bd2 Bxd2+ 12.Qxd2 Na5 13.h4
from Grunfeld, Modern Exchange 8.Rb1 by KingG
29. Qe6+!
from Weakened Castled Position by trh6upsz
Intel Rapid Chess Grand Prix 1995 - Paris
by amadeus
29. Qe6+!
from Weakened Castled Position by patzer2
Grunfeld for White
by geordieray
January 5: Gruen Felled
from Game of the Day 2006 by Phony Benoni
Vladimir Kramnik's Best Games
by JoseTigranTalFischer
Power Chess - Kramnik
by Anatoly21
Grunfeld emotions
by Yopo
0ZeR0's Favorite Games Volume 8
by 0ZeR0
Vladimir Kramnik's Best Games
by KingG

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2021, Chessgames Services LLC