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Alan Shaw vs Alexander Ivanov
89th US Open (1988), Boston, MA USA, rd 3, Aug-09
Formation: Hippopotamus (A00)  ·  0-1



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  perfidious: In this game, I was facing Alexander, not Igor Ivanov-I've played six or seven games with the two, and had Black both times I played Igor, and White in every game with Alex.
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  perfidious: Just wanted to point out once more that Black in this game was Alexander, not Igor, Ivanov, as well as mention that we played this game in the third round.
Sep-12-11  ProjectR: So <perfidious> is a Master too...well done. I really need to knuckle down and improve while im kind of young enough
Sep-12-11  SimonWebbsTiger: @<ProjectR>

oh yeah, as is <FSR> and - unless I am mistaken - <theFocus>.

I'm Danish, so not sure entirely about the American rankings...but I think my rating would put me in what the USCF would call "expert".

Note the lack of need to put people down or narcissism of Alan the Perfidious and no doubt many other US Masters (2200-2300?) on except for a certain somebody... ;o)

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  perfidious: <ProjectR> <Simon> Stop spreading rumours, such as maybe I could play at one time.....people might actually believe it!

By the way, this game was an object example of our good staff here at CG listening to we members; my opponent was listed as Igor Ivanov as noted above, but they made the switch. Other sources still have Black listed as Igor. The irony is that I was White in all four games with Alexander and Black both times I played Igor.

Feb-27-15  morfishine: <perfidious> I see what you mean by Black's 12th move.

Forget what anyone says about narcissism or self-centered comments. Chess is the one sport or endeavor that I have no problem with one "tooting one's own horn" or simply wanting to show one's game. Thats just the way it is. Chess itself is entirely individualistic and so lends itself to one showing what happened. Others should simply listen and learn

Dear Sir <perfidious> As for this 'Ivanov' or that 'Ivanov' it hardly matters; both Alexander and Igor are/were formidable Masters. Any game with either player deserves note; and if a particular contest is stubbornly played out, this is a credit to their opponent

Nice game



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  perfidious: <morf> In my mind, there is no need to even give the time of day to such comments; better to reminisce on what has gone and some of the memories.

Had Black played the natural 12....Bxf5, my intention was to go in for 13.g4 with a spatial advantage, though admittedly, I am not sure, all these years on, whether that idea offers anything. It is certainly <sehr riskant>.

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  keypusher: <perfidious> <morfishine>

<SimonWebbsTiger> can speak for himself, but I'm pretty sure he was contrasting Alan Shaw's <lack> of narcissism or desire to put others down with an unidentified someone else...perhaps a certain Lifemaster.

This is an amazing game, perfidious. Thanks for "publicizing" it! It's funny, the other Ivanov also played a surprising ...f5.

J L Watson vs Igor Ivanov, 1983

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  perfidious: <keypusher> Do you know, it never crossed my mind that anything negative was intended by <Simon>; I rather thought it was one of those two dozen or so posters who reside in iggydom and I did not propose to take them off, so as to read whatever was posted.
Feb-28-15  SimonWebbsTiger: blimey.

I thought it obvious. AJ Goldsby is a tonk, AS isn't. AJ blinded us with his brilliance whilst AS was just mellow and helpful.

Feb-28-15  morfishine: <SimonWebbsTiger> Sorry if I miss-read you. I am entirely in your camp regarding <LMAJ>


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