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Vladimir P Malaniuk vs Jordan Ivanov
"Err Jordan" (game of the day Jul-03-2017)
Sverdlovsk (1989), Sverdlovsk URS, Oct-??
King's Gambit: Accepted. Fischer Defense (C34)  ·  1-0

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Apr-17-03  chessamateur: I agree with Sneaky. Problems that say "White/Black to play and win" should consist of mate or at least a win of a piece, usually. And in addition, this would not even be on the front page of chessgames.com with the caption "White to play and Win", had Ivanov played 21... Rc8 rather than 21... RxQa7??(the moved he played). Not to be mean but, i thought this was a tactical excersise. Not win a pawn and strategically reel in the full point, no offense intended!
Apr-17-03  crafty: 21. ... ♖c8 22. ♘d3 O-O 23. ♖ad1 c5 24. ♘xc5 ♘ec6 25. ♕a4   (eval 2.09; depth 12 ply; 150M nodes)
Apr-17-03  KnightBlade: This is just an idea, but it seems like White can win easily after 22. Rfd1! The threat is 23. Rd6 followed by 24. Rad1 where the threat of capturing on sacrificing the exchange andthen taking the b7 pawn looks very strong. 22...O-O? loses to 23. Rd6 Qf7 24. Ng5! Qc4 25. Rxd8 Rcxd8 26. Bxe7 winning two pieces for a rook and threatening 27. Qxb7 with a decisive advantage. 22...Nf7 (to stop 23. Rd6) loses to 23. Qxb7 and the b pawn will force Black to give up material. 22...Qf7 23. Rd6! keeps the king in the center because 23...O-O? transposes to the variation with 22...O-O, and Black is defenseless against 24. Rad1 and 25. Rxd8+! Rxd8 26. Rxd8+ Kxd8 27. Qxb7 winning. If 22...Qf8 23. Rd6 Nf7 then 24. Rd3! threatening 25. Qxb7 where Black has nothing better than 24...Nd8 25. Rad1 with 26. Rxd8+! Finally, 22...Qf8 23. Rd6 Kf7 24. Rd7! pins the knight twice, and forces the win of a huge amount of material, for instance 24...Bf6 25. Nxe5+! Bxe5 26. Rxe7+ Kg8 27. Rxe5 with a discovered attack on the queen.
Apr-17-03  KnightBlade: I just realized that in my earlier line 22. Rfd1! O-O? 23. Rd6 Qf7 24. Ng5! Qc4 25. Rxd8 Rcxd8? leaves black down a piece after 26. Bxe7 which forks the rooks, so Black must play 25...Rfxd8 26. Bxe7 Re8 where White is still clearly better and probably winning.
Apr-19-03
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  matey: If 21...Rac8 instead of ...Rxa7 the Black position is uncoordinated with the pieces having little scope. 22.Rfd1 with the idea of bringing the rooks decisively into the game is the right strategy.
Jul-17-10  sfm: <Sneaky "...since Ivanov walked right into the trap..."> It is weird. One thing is to miss 21. Qxa7 which is one of the oldest trick in the book. But it is not possible to imagine that Black could overlook the consequences of 21.-,RxQ 22.bxR. Maybe it was not an important game, and Black did not want to take the long way down with 21.-,Rc8...
Jul-03-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: Today's pun is "Err Jordan", which I think is based on that most enigmatic of airlines, Air Jordan.

But once again there seems to be a transpondian pronunciation difference, because I pronounce <err> exactly as I do the ancient city of <Ur>.

In fact, "Ur, Jordan" would be a reasonable pun because Ur was in Jordan.

Jul-03-17  sofouuk: <because Ur was in Jordan>... really?
Jul-03-17  morfishine: <offramp> I live 10 miles north of Orlando International airport and yesterday I saw a cream colored airbus on final and on the underside was painted a crimson rectangle running over half the plane's length and stenciled inside this red box were the glossy white letters spelling out 'Emirates'

I think this is the solution

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Jul-03-17  Ironmanth: RIP Grandmaster Malaniuk
Jul-03-17  paavoh: @offramp: Close but not quite. Ur was in modern-day Iraq. Please see: http://www.ancient.eu/ur/
Jul-03-17
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  HeMateMe: I love the pun!
Jul-03-17  ninja warrior: ...or, you know, the pun could be based on the air jordan shoe... :)
Jul-03-17
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  kevin86: White gives up queen for another. The rook will not be returned!
Jul-03-17
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  offramp: Many apologies. It turns out that Ur is modern-day Tashkent.
Jul-03-17  ChessHigherCat: More disinformation from Whackopedia. Ur was located in modern-day Iraq.

Isn't it a Bird (as opposed to a plane or superman) if the first move is f4?

Jul-03-17
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  WannaBe: Looks like it transposed to KGA, on a similar thought, not all 1. c4 are English.
Jul-03-17  ChessHigherCat: I think black was a little too nonchalant allowing the discovered check b6. He should have played 18. b6 or c6 and then continued with the kingside attack
Jul-03-17  ColeTrane: A good pun works on multiple levels. Think about Art. Fine Art like painting and sculpture is DIVERGENT. Whereas design and advertising are CONVERGENT.
Jul-03-17
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  offramp: <ColeTrane: A good pun works on multiple levels.> I don't think there were multiple levels here.
Jul-03-17  ChessHigherCat: Stop the merry-go-round, Ivanov!

<WannaBe: Looks like it transposed to KGA, on a similar thought, not all 1. c4 are English.>

I wish I had known that transposition trick when I first started playing -- I used to get systematically crushed by some guy who was a big specialist in the Bird (not to be confused with a specialist in Big Bird) because he rightly assumed that hardly anybody studied it anymore.

Jul-03-17  RandomVisitor: Janis Joplin Lyrics
"River Jordan"

I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
One of these days

I'm gonna sit at the welcome table
I'm gonna sit at the welcome table
I'm gonna sit at the welcome table
Gonna sit at the welcome table
One of these days

I'm gonna find that blessed salvation
I'm gonna find that blessed salvation
I'm gonna find that blessed salvation
Gonna find that blessed salvation
One of these days

I'm gonna walk and talk with Jesus
I'm gonna walk and talk with Jesus
I'm gonna walk and talk with Jesus
Gonna walk and talk with Jesus
One of these days

I'm gonna hold hands with my Master
I'm gonna hold hands with my Master
I'm gonna hold hands with my Master
I'm gonna hold hands with my Master
One of these days

Now I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
I'm goin' down to the river Jordan
Goin' down to the river Jordan
One of these days

<gonna avoid a Queen sac for pawn promotion

One of these days>

Jul-04-17  ColeTrane: Well <offramp> use your brain and read earlier kibitz there's at least three different ways that folks interpreted this pun. Which actually has no relationship as to whether imo it's "good" or not
Jul-04-17
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  offramp: <ColeTrane: Well <offramp> use your brain and read earlier kibitz there's at least three different ways that folks interpreted this pun. Which actually has no relationship as to whether imo it's "good" or not.>

It's pretty pretty pretty obvious that the pun refers to Air Jordan trainers, and anyone who sees any other meaning in it has cognitive issues.

Jul-06-17  morfishine: <ColeTrane> Cool it, <offramp> was just being sarcastic, and monumentally witty I might add

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