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Gata Kamsky vs Garry Kasparov
Dortmund (1992), Dortmund GER, rd 3, Apr-19
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Modern System (E97)  ·  1-0

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Mar-22-04  MoonlitKnight: A more interesting challenge would be to find your own chances against Kasparov. I'm sure it can result in a win for most club players, if you just take some time to figure it out. It would be one enormous amount of games for me, though.
Mar-22-04  Lawrence: <MoonlitKnight>, and if a billion monkeys were typing randomly on a billion typewriters, after I don't know how many billion years one of them would have rewritten Shakespeare, but let's not get our hopes up.
Mar-22-04
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  tamar: <"if a billion monkeys were typing randomly"> I'll get us monkeys started. A horse, a horse, my Kingdom for a horse!:-)
Mar-23-04  Lawrence: <tamar>, your Maths can't be as bad as mine so maybe you can help. If there are, say, 28 possible moves for each position and the game lasts, say, 38 moves, what would it be, 28 to the 38th games before a babbling monkey like me played a perfect one? That sounds like quite a large number to me. (Maybe the number of atoms in the Milky Way galaxy?)
Mar-23-04  Lawrence: <tamar>, suppose I'm not a babbling monkey but a babbling OAP (which I am) who knows a little bit about chess. Ten possible moves per position? Then would it only be 10 to the 38th games? Now that sounds more manageable.
Mar-24-04
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  tamar: <Lawrence> I guess the key is to wait til Kasparov becomes an OAP and then challenge him ;-) Or do you think he will be like Lasker, and confound us all?
Mar-24-04  Lawrence: <tamar>, just think, another 40 years of having to put up with Gazza!
Mar-24-04  weepingwarrior: I have to admire Kamsky's play against Kasparov. Sometimes I like to see the big guy lose, but not to Kamsky. I don't know what to think about Kamsky, sometimes I like him, and other times I don't.
Sep-06-04  iron maiden: Kamsky's only win over Kasparov. What was the time control for this game?
Apr-17-05
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  Joshka: After 19. Rb3, what is the proper responce? My database only goes to 2002. 19...Bh6, Ng3, and fe4 seem to be the only moves masters have used. All 3 have won at least once. Or has this variation been thrown on the trash heep?
Apr-17-05  who: <Lawrence> I think the problem is that sometimes the correct move seems unnatural to patzers like us. This means the little we know about chess would likely hurt our chances of beating Kasparov.
Apr-18-05  Lawrence: <who>, so that's the reason I can't beat Garry! As Pope said--Alexander, not John Paul II--<A little learning is a dangerous thing>.
May-20-06  cotdt: This game has no many mistakes on both sides, especially for Kasparov. Although this young Kamsky beat Kasparov, today's Kamsky playing at Mtel 2006 is better.
Aug-29-07  caraig: OUCH! The Big Ego Hurts...
Oct-04-07  Jim Bartle: Strong nerves and confidence in his calculation from Kamsky to allow black's pieces to flood in in front of his isolated king starting about move 23. Then he moves his pieces on d2 and e2 away from the action to the queenside...
Dec-18-08  tonsillolith: Kamsky must have been happy about winning against Kasparov here. It was his first win against Kasparov and happened to be his only one.

Kasparov attempted a flashy attack which turned out to be insufficient to win, but Kamksy had a possibility to retort in a flashy manner and win the game more convincingly: 33. d6+! Bxc4 34. d7
and the connect passed pawns will bring in more material than was lost.

Jul-06-09  Kinghunt: A rare miscalculation by Kasparov. 21... Nxg3 simply loses because his attack is not quite strong enough to succeed and allows white's counterattack. 23...Qh4! was his last chance to save the draw, but after 23...Nxf4 black loses.
Feb-02-11  pawn to QB4: OK, after a short debate on the Anand page Kamsky seems to be a candidate for youngest player to beat a reigning world champ at classical time controls. Thanks to Jim Bartle who tells us this was played in the April before his 18th birthday on June 2nd. Any other bids?
May-27-14  RookFile: Well, Deep Blue beat Kasparov when it was one or two years old, I think. Pretty good for a toddler.
May-27-14
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  Sally Simpson: "Kamsky seems to be a candidate for youngest player to beat a reigning world champ at classical time controls. Thanks to Jim Bartle who tells us this was played in the April before his 18th birthday on June 2nd. Any other bids?"

Yifan Hou beat the then current Women's World Champion Anna Ushenina in a match (4 wins, 3 draws, no losses.) to win the Woman's world title when she was 16.

Ushenina - Hou Women's World Championship (2013)

May-27-14
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  Sally Simpson: Well spotted Rookfile,

We can add Deep Blue to the list of players who have quit the game whilst at their peak.

Morphy, Fischer and Deep Blue.

May-27-14  torrefan: <On September 11, 1913, Dr. Julius Perlis (1880-1913), died in a mountain climb in the Alps. During a pleasure trip, he went astray and spent the night on a mountain. He died of extreme exposure to low temperatures during a climb in the Austrian Inntaler Alps (Hochtor-Ostgrat). He froze to death.>

Another chess player who quit chess at his peak.

May-27-14
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Torrefan,

:)

May-27-14  torrefan: Oh, hi Sally. Can I buy you a drink and then, perhaps, we can have a friendly game of chess in my bathtub?
May-27-14  john barleycorn: <torrefan: Oh, hi Sally. Can I buy you a drink and then, perhaps, we can have a friendly game of chess in my bathtub?>

Hey, <torrefan> hands off...lol lol lol-o-lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK3...

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