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| May-13-15 | | DanielHoseano: Could be a good puzzle. With black to play 11.? |
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| Aug-10-18 | | andrewjsacks: 11...Ke7. Remarkable. |
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Aug-10-18
 | | Honza Cervenka: 11...Ke7 is in fact quite logical continuation. With uncovered Rook on h8 white can play sometimes Bg5, and for black it is not easy to find any way how to finish reasonably his development. Of course, 11...0-0 loses the game instantly for 12.Bxh6 gxh6 13.Qxh6 Re8 14.Ng5 Qe7 (14...Bf8 15.Bh7+ Kh8 16.Nxf7#) 15.Bh7+ Kh8 16.Bg6+ Kg8 17.Bxf7+ Qxf7 18.Nxf7 etc. |
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Aug-10-18
| | Honza Cervenka: 34...Kd8 was a serious mistake from Karpov, 34...Bf7 was necessary. But both players were short of time in this phase of game before the time control. |
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Aug-10-18
| | Honza Cervenka: <RookFile> 11....Ke7 was not about confusing opponent, it was a correct solution of opening problems of black in this line. The game was not decided in the opening but black was not worse or he was even better with his extra Pawn until the severe time pressure before the first time control, where both players played inaccurately and where Gata could have won the game after Karpov's mistakes in moves 34 and 37 (34...Bf7 ∓ and 37...Rh2 = were better moves). |
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Aug-10-18
| | Honza Cervenka: If 36.Qh8, then 36...Rxc2 looks quite forced. |
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Aug-10-18
| | Honza Cervenka: 34...Bf7! 35.h6 (35.b3 Qxh5) 35...Qxc4 36.Bb3 Qd3+ 37.Qxd3 Rxd3 38.Bc2 Rh3 39.h7 Be6 40.Rf1 f5 41.Bxf5 Bxf5+ 42.Rxf5 Ke6 -+ |
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| Aug-10-18 | | Ironmanth: First time seeing this game: holy crap! Amazing stuff. Thanks, chessgames. |
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Aug-10-18
 | | HeMateMe: Is 38. K-c1 a forced win for white? |
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| Aug-10-18 | | Caissa04: Whoever was Karpov's second at the time did a great job considering 11...Ke7 as an idea, beautiful! |
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| Aug-10-18 | | Caissa04: HeHateMe, yes. 38.Kc1 would definitely win for white, I guess time trouble got the better of Gata Kamsky. |
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Aug-10-18
| | Honza Cervenka: <HeMateMe: Is 38. K-c1 a forced win for white?> Yes, it is. After 38.Kc1 Rd4 39.Be4! black cannot stop h-Pawn, and if 38...Rh2, then 39.Rd1 pins and wins the Bishop on d7. |
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Aug-10-18
 | | AylerKupp: Well, my theory is that, just like in L Palau vs S Kalabar, 1927, Karpov meant to play 11...Qe7 in preparation for an eventual 0-0-0 but inadvertedly touched his king and therefore <had> to play 11...Ke7. Then, as the saying goes, "if life gives you a lemon, make lemonade" and Karpov went on to win the game. So all this talk about the "brilliancy" of 11...Ke7 and the fact that Karpov uncovered it during home analysis is "interesting" but nothing more. After all, Karpov probably might have considered it embarrassing if the "truth" were known so he would have encouraged these "alternative facts". Anyway, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it. :-) |
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| Aug-10-18 | | lzromeu: Forget theories
38. Kc1 Rh2 39. Rd1
and white wins |
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| Aug-14-18 | | cormier: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4: d 22 dpa done
<1. = / + (-0.49): 32...Bf7> 33.h5 Rd2 34.Kc1 Rh2 35.Rd1 Qc7 36.Qg7 Qb8 37.Bg6 Qg8 38.Qxf7+ Qxf7 39.Bxf7 Kxf7 40.Rd7+ Ke8 41.Rxa7 Rxh5 42.Ra6 Kd7 43.Rxb6 Rh4 44.Kc2 Rxc4+ 45.Kb3 Rc1 46.a4 f5 47.a5 f4 48.a6 Ra1 49.Kc2 f3 50.Rb7+ Kc6 51.Rf7 Rxa6 52.Rxf3 Ra1 53.Re3 Kd5 54.Rd3+ Ke4 55.Rc3 Kd4 56.Rd3+ Kc4 57.Re3 <2. = (0.00): 32...e5 <33.Rg1>> Bf7 34.b3 Qe6 35.Bg6 Bxg6+ 36.Qxg6 Qf7 37.Qf5 Rd4 38.h5 Rh4 39.Qc8 Rxh5 40.Qb7+ Ke6 41.Qd5+ Ke7 42.Qb7+ Ke6 |
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| Aug-14-18 | | cormier: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa done
<1. = (0.00): 32.Rg1> Bf7 33.Rg7 Kf8 34.Qg1 e5 35.Rh7 Qe6 36.Qg7+ Ke7 37.Bg6 Rd1+ 38.Kc2 Qxc4+ 39.Kxd1 Qf1+ 40.Kc2 Qe2+ 41.Kc3 Qe1+ 42.Kc2 Qe2+ 43.Kc3 <2. = (0.00): 32.Qf3> Rd2 33.h5 Rh2 34.Rd1 Qc6 35.Be4 Qc7 36.Qg4 Bf7 37.Qg7 Rxb2+ 38.Kxb2 Qe5+ 39.Kb3 Qxe4 40.h6 Qe3+ 41.Kc2 Qe2+ 42.Rd2 Qxc4+ 43.Kd1 Qa4+ 44.Kc1 Qa3+ 45.Kb1 Qb4+ 46.Kc2 Qa5 47.h7 Qxa2+ 48.Kd3 Qd5+ 49.Ke3 Qe5+ 50.Kf3 Qc3+ 51.Ke2 Qc4+ 52.Ke3 Qc3+ 53.Ke2 Qc4+ <3. = (-0.19): 32.a3> Rd2 33.Rg1 Qd4 34.Rg7+ Kd6 35.Qb3 Bd7 36.h5 Qf4 37.Rf7 e5 38.h6 Qxh6 39.Qf3 Be6 40.Rxf6 Qh4 41.Bd3 e4 42.Bxe4 Ke7 43.Rxe6+ Kxe6 44.Bd5+ Kd6 45.Qf5 Re2 46.Qg6+ Ke7 47.Qf7+ Kd8 48.Qxa7 Qf6 49.Qb8+ Ke7 50.Qc7+ Kf8 51.Qc8+ Kg7 52.Qd7+ Re7 53.Qh3 Qg5 54.Qc3+ Re5 55.Ka2 Qe3 56.Qc2 Rg5 57.Qa4 Rg6 58.Qa8 Qf4 59.Qc8 Rf6 60.Qh3 Kg6 61.Qg2+ Kf5 62.Qh3+ Kg5 63.Qg2+ Qg4 64.Qd2+ Rf4 65.Qe3 Qf5 66.a4 Qf6 67.Qg3+ Kf5 68.Qh3+ Kg6 69.Qg3+ Kh5 |
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Aug-15-18
 | | Troller: <AylerKupp> For a somewhat similar occurence see D Horseman vs Larsen, 1957 |
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Aug-16-18
| | AylerKupp: <Troller> Thanks, I wasn't aware of that game. And having Pirc call it a novelty was hilarious. I wonder how many other "novelties" are the result of a player making a move other than the one he intended to make! |
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| Jun-02-19 | | Roark: Where does it say or who said that Tigran Petrosian/ Iron Tigran was Karpov's idol? Source please. He had worked with so many coaches that had differing styles than him of course. Zaitsev, Tal he always blitzed and analysed with and his earlier coach in Tolush. |
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| Oct-28-20 | | login:
11. ..Ke7
'Gata stared at the board and couldn't belive his eyes. First he thought I was just kidding him. Then he started to think and found out it is actually not such a bad idea. Simply g5 is threatened' A certain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze9... in his own words, 1998 The position was analysed beforehand and the move was found together with his trainer Mikhail Podgaets . And deservedly so it was voted as one of the most significant opening discoveries at the time. 'Overshadowed' only by Yacov Isaakovich Murey uncorking the stunning 4. ... Nc6 in the 'Russian Defense' the same year. Timman vs Murey, 1993 |
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| Oct-28-20 | | Granny O Doul: You've just got to understand Anatoly. He's always kidding around. |
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Dec-02-20
 | | kingscrusher: Stockfish NN in 2020 kind of likes Ke7 but maybe prefers Rg8 slightly: Gata Kamsky - Anatoly Karpov 0-1, Dortmund Dortmund GER 1993
click for larger viewAnalysis by Stockfish 12:
1. = (0.00): 11...Rg8 12.Nd2 Bc7 13.0-0 g5 14.Qxh6 Ng4 15.Qh7 Nf6
2. = (0.26): 11...Ke7 12.Ne5 Bxe5 13.dxe5 Qa5+ 14.Bd2 Qxe5+ 15.Be3 b6 16.0-0-0 Bb7 17.Bf4 Qc5 18.Bd2 Qh5 19.Qg3 Rhd8 20.f3 c5 21.h4 Qd5 22.Kb1 Kf8 23.Bc3 Qd6 24.Be5 Qe7 25.Rhe1 Nh5 26.Qh2 f6 27.Bg6 Rxd1+ 28.Rxd1 fxe5 29.Bxh5 Rd8
3. ⩲ (0.39): 11...Nd5 12.Bg5 Qc7 13.c4 Nf4 14.Bxf4 Bxf4 15.0-0 c5 16.dxc5 Bd7 17.Rae1 g5 18.Qh5 Qxc5 19.Be4 0-0-0 20.Qxf7 Kb8 21.Rd1 Qxc4 22.Rxd7 Qxe4 23.Rxd8+ Rxd8 24.Qf6
4. ⩲ (0.61): 11...Qe7 12.0-0 Bd7 13.Re1 0-0-0 14.Ne5 g5 15.Qh3 Kb8 16.a4 Nd5 17.Bf1 Be8 18.a5 a6 19.Bd2 c5 20.dxc5 Bxc5 21.Nd3 Nf4 22.Qg3 Qc7
The position is equal
(Gavriel, 02.12.2020) |
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| Apr-01-21 | | Chesgambit: Rg8 better than Ke7 idea g5 |
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| Apr-02-21 | | andrewjsacks: Fascinating game. |
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| Apr-02-21 | | areknames: <Fascinating game.> Most emphatically so! |
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