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Gata Kamsky vs Anatoly Karpov
"Castling is Overrated" (game of the day Aug-10-2018)
Dortmund (1993), Dortmund GER, rd 1, Apr-10
Caro-Kann Defense: Karpov Variation. Modern Main Line (B17)  ·  0-1



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  kevin86: It looks like black will clean up soon!
Nov-30-12  5hrsolver: I like Karpov's simplistic style. His idol is the late Petrosian.
Nov-30-12  Gato: 11...Ke7 because 11...0-0 would be followed by a sacrifice on h6 ?
Nov-30-12  RookFile: There is nothing simple about this game. Most people don't march their king to the center to commence the middlegame. Karpov did a good job of mixing things up and confusing Kamsky. Analysis shows that Kamsky should have won or drawn this game, but that was a chance Karpov was willing to take to get the win with black.
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  offramp: 38.Kc1 would have been a scorcher... But Karpov's TN didn't deserve a loss.
Mar-12-15  carpovius: 11. ...Ke7!!! was a winning move)))))))
May-13-15  DanielHoseano: Could be a good puzzle. With black to play 11.?
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  andrewjsacks: 11...Ke7. Remarkable.
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  Honza Cervenka: 11...Ke7 is in fact quite logical continuation. With uncovered Rook on h8 white can play sometimes Bg5, and for black it is not easy to find any way how to finish reasonably his development. Of course, 11...0-0 loses the game instantly for 12.Bxh6 gxh6 13.Qxh6 Re8 14.Ng5 Qe7 (14...Bf8 15.Bh7+ Kh8 16.Nxf7#) 15.Bh7+ Kh8 16.Bg6+ Kg8 17.Bxf7+ Qxf7 18.Nxf7 etc.
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  Honza Cervenka: 34...Kd8 was a serious mistake from Karpov, 34...Bf7 was necessary. But both players were short of time in this phase of game before the time control.
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  Honza Cervenka: <RookFile> 11....Ke7 was not about confusing opponent, it was a correct solution of opening problems of black in this line. The game was not decided in the opening but black was not worse or he was even better with his extra Pawn until the severe time pressure before the first time control, where both players played inaccurately and where Gata could have won the game after Karpov's mistakes in moves 34 and 37 (34...Bf7 ∓ and 37...Rh2 = were better moves).
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  Honza Cervenka: If 36.Qh8, then 36...Rxc2 looks quite forced.
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  Honza Cervenka: 34...Bf7! 35.h6 (35.b3 Qxh5) 35...Qxc4 36.Bb3 Qd3+ 37.Qxd3 Rxd3 38.Bc2 Rh3 39.h7 Be6 40.Rf1 f5 41.Bxf5 Bxf5+ 42.Rxf5 Ke6 -+
Aug-10-18  Ironmanth: First time seeing this game: holy crap! Amazing stuff. Thanks, chessgames.
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  HeMateMe: Is 38. K-c1 a forced win for white?
Aug-10-18  Caissa04: Whoever was Karpov's second at the time did a great job considering 11...Ke7 as an idea, beautiful!
Aug-10-18  Caissa04: HeHateMe, yes. 38.Kc1 would definitely win for white, I guess time trouble got the better of Gata Kamsky.
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  Honza Cervenka: <HeMateMe: Is 38. K-c1 a forced win for white?> Yes, it is. After 38.Kc1 Rd4 39.Be4! black cannot stop h-Pawn, and if 38...Rh2, then 39.Rd1 pins and wins the Bishop on d7.
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  AylerKupp: Well, my theory is that, just like in L Palau vs S Kalabar, 1927, Karpov meant to play 11...Qe7 in preparation for an eventual 0-0-0 but inadvertedly touched his king and therefore <had> to play 11...Ke7. Then, as the saying goes, "if life gives you a lemon, make lemonade" and Karpov went on to win the game.

So all this talk about the "brilliancy" of 11...Ke7 and the fact that Karpov uncovered it during home analysis is "interesting" but nothing more. After all, Karpov probably might have considered it embarrassing if the "truth" were known so he would have encouraged these "alternative facts".

Anyway, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it. :-)

Aug-10-18  lzromeu: Forget theories
38. Kc1 Rh2 39. Rd1
and white wins
Aug-14-18  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 22 dpa done

<1. = / + (-0.49): 32...Bf7> 33.h5 Rd2 34.Kc1 Rh2 35.Rd1 Qc7 36.Qg7 Qb8 37.Bg6 Qg8 38.Qxf7+ Qxf7 39.Bxf7 Kxf7 40.Rd7+ Ke8 41.Rxa7 Rxh5 42.Ra6 Kd7 43.Rxb6 Rh4 44.Kc2 Rxc4+ 45.Kb3 Rc1 46.a4 f5 47.a5 f4 48.a6 Ra1 49.Kc2 f3 50.Rb7+ Kc6 51.Rf7 Rxa6 52.Rxf3 Ra1 53.Re3 Kd5 54.Rd3+ Ke4 55.Rc3 Kd4 56.Rd3+ Kc4 57.Re3

<2. = (0.00): 32...e5 <33.Rg1>> Bf7 34.b3 Qe6 35.Bg6 Bxg6+ 36.Qxg6 Qf7 37.Qf5 Rd4 38.h5 Rh4 39.Qc8 Rxh5 40.Qb7+ Ke6 41.Qd5+ Ke7 42.Qb7+ Ke6

Aug-14-18  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa done

<1. = (0.00): 32.Rg1> Bf7 33.Rg7 Kf8 34.Qg1 e5 35.Rh7 Qe6 36.Qg7+ Ke7 37.Bg6 Rd1+ 38.Kc2 Qxc4+ 39.Kxd1 Qf1+ 40.Kc2 Qe2+ 41.Kc3 Qe1+ 42.Kc2 Qe2+ 43.Kc3

<2. = (0.00): 32.Qf3> Rd2 33.h5 Rh2 34.Rd1 Qc6 35.Be4 Qc7 36.Qg4 Bf7 37.Qg7 Rxb2+ 38.Kxb2 Qe5+ 39.Kb3 Qxe4 40.h6 Qe3+ 41.Kc2 Qe2+ 42.Rd2 Qxc4+ 43.Kd1 Qa4+ 44.Kc1 Qa3+ 45.Kb1 Qb4+ 46.Kc2 Qa5 47.h7 Qxa2+ 48.Kd3 Qd5+ 49.Ke3 Qe5+ 50.Kf3 Qc3+ 51.Ke2 Qc4+ 52.Ke3 Qc3+ 53.Ke2 Qc4+

<3. = (-0.19): 32.a3> Rd2 33.Rg1 Qd4 34.Rg7+ Kd6 35.Qb3 Bd7 36.h5 Qf4 37.Rf7 e5 38.h6 Qxh6 39.Qf3 Be6 40.Rxf6 Qh4 41.Bd3 e4 42.Bxe4 Ke7 43.Rxe6+ Kxe6 44.Bd5+ Kd6 45.Qf5 Re2 46.Qg6+ Ke7 47.Qf7+ Kd8 48.Qxa7 Qf6 49.Qb8+ Ke7 50.Qc7+ Kf8 51.Qc8+ Kg7 52.Qd7+ Re7 53.Qh3 Qg5 54.Qc3+ Re5 55.Ka2 Qe3 56.Qc2 Rg5 57.Qa4 Rg6 58.Qa8 Qf4 59.Qc8 Rf6 60.Qh3 Kg6 61.Qg2+ Kf5 62.Qh3+ Kg5 63.Qg2+ Qg4 64.Qd2+ Rf4 65.Qe3 Qf5 66.a4 Qf6 67.Qg3+ Kf5 68.Qh3+ Kg6 69.Qg3+ Kh5

Aug-15-18  Troller: <AylerKupp> For a somewhat similar occurence see D Horseman vs Larsen, 1957
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  AylerKupp: <Troller> Thanks, I wasn't aware of that game. And having Pirc call it a novelty was hilarious. I wonder how many other "novelties" are the result of a player making a move other than the one he intended to make!
Jun-02-19  Roark: Where does it say or who said that Tigran Petrosian/ Iron Tigran was Karpov's idol? Source please. He had worked with so many coaches that had differing styles than him of course. Zaitsev, Tal he always blitzed and analysed with and his earlier coach in Tolush.
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