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Albert Becker vs Hermanis Mattison
Karlsbad (1929), Karlsbad CSR, rd 9, Aug-10
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  1-0

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Apr-05-22
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  thegoodanarchist: <FSR: How does this even qualify as a puzzle? You play the obvious check and you force mate.>

"Mate in x" (in this case, 5) has always been considered a legitimate puzzle. For beginners, that is.

The father of the Polgar sisters even published a humongously thick book filled (mostly) with "checkmate in 1, 2 and 3" puzzles.

Apr-05-22  Brenin: <corneliussulla: Q to F8 also wins>: Yes, but only if White wants some practice at P endgames, as <Teyss> pointed out. If he feels that his R endgame technique needs polishing he can win with 31 Qxg6 hxg6 32 Bxc6 bxc6 33 Rxc7.
Apr-05-22  daladno: This one needs a new day, somewhere between Sunday and Monday.
Apr-05-22
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  Dionysius1: How about "Sunday evening after a skin full"
Apr-05-22
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  scormus: <thegoodanarchist: ..... humongously thick book .....> I can thoroughly recommend it for training one's tactical skills. And arm strength too.
Apr-05-22  TheaN: Guess I don't have to jump the wagon "puzzle where". Think CG messed something up here, thinking <31.Rf8+> is a tactical shot, whilst it really isn't <31....Rxf8 (Qxf8 32.Qf6#) 32.Qxf8+ Qg8 33.Qxg8#>.
Apr-05-22
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  chrisowen: Us joy it arrive it Rf8 gotcha v it v axiom v it v o jack again quincy us joy it arrive it fright grumble v it v i bleak cad it winch qi v it hip it vint poverty v it uvray just it v finger it v i mod thunk it wobble back pq it vis it zany v it v rob shambles abridge flushhand fell hoof v it v i flinch eh did fluff hog aka it awooga v it v i jo banana so balance lab efface v it hither bubble yob pec baby blubb o if dibble auld v it v affable effort it hub if go c it v did flush v it vibe it vet deffo it hinch key eh it ablush it vat latch cans diet foot ha gm sac v it v dan me rf eg hah clock beef it ed re v it v bb cd it v fale it vet c bed it v re ft be cc dike it roof v it v i rc md fane it is vet hi go at cdt flies it honk it v i da c it to frack it v bah it hi rab let breech it ve mr key it is hermit an v it v on sat im not lab bet rec kon mr han v it v sine it v ie mr it v it v i shan ta mits sit it on am cue it v Rf8 cub!
Apr-05-22  johnnydeep: A little harder than Monday's but still very easy for me to see.
Apr-05-22
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  Louben: The only puzzle is: where is the puzzle?
Apr-05-22  Counterpoint: 30... Qg6?? was a blunder.

Instead, Black should have played the more orthodox 30... Bxd5.

What's white's answer?
31 Rxc7 Rxa2 ...

Black is ahead.

Apr-05-22  Mississaugan: <chrisowen: Us joy it arrive it Rf8 gotcha v it v axiom v it v o jack again quincy us joy it arrive it fright grumble v it v i bleak cad it winch qi v it hip it vint poverty v it uvray just it v finger it v i mod thunk it wobble back pq it vis it zany v it v rob shambles abridge flushhand fell hoof v it v i flinch eh did fluff hog aka it awooga v it v i jo banana so balance lab efface v it hither bubble yob pec baby blubb o if dibble auld v it v affable effort it hub if go c it v did flush v it vibe it vet deffo it hinch key eh it ablush it vat latch cans diet foot ha gm sac v it v dan me rf eg hah clock beef it ed re v it v bb cd it v fale it vet c bed it v re ft be cc dike it roof v it v i rc md fane it is vet hi go at cdt flies it honk it v i da c it to frack it v bah it hi rab let breech it ve mr key it is hermit an v it v on sat im not lab bet rec kon mr han v it v sine it v ie mr it v it v i shan ta mits sit it on am cue it v Rf8 cub!>

I wonder why chessgames.com does allow this posts.

This contravene the posting guideline No. 2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or <gibberish posts.>>>>>

Apr-05-22
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  Teyss: <Counterpoint> 30... Bxd5 31.Qf6+ and mate. Black is lost, actually was lost for quite some time.

<Mississaugan> Beats me too. But then he has an avatar so is a paying member, hence can do almost anything. Apart from criticising puns of course, nobody is allowed that.

Apr-05-22  AlicesKnight: 31. Rf8+ wins in 3 moves. Qf8+ looks clever but is much slower and relies on 'winning a won game', which is not so easy.
Apr-05-22  Mississaugan: <Teyss:
<Mississaugan> Beats me too. But then he has an avatar so is a paying member, hence can do almost anything. Apart from criticising puns of course, nobody is allowed that.>

That's clear enough, thanks <Teyss>

Apr-05-22  Stanco: 31.Rf8 wins in two moves because after 31...Qg8 white mates with 32.Qf6#
Apr-05-22
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  whiteshark: <31.Rf8+>, and that's it.

aka https://www.ende-gelaende.org/en/

Apr-05-22  sakredkow: <I wonder why chessgames.com does allow this posts.>

Speaking strictly for myself I enjoy a little bit of chaos now and then, and I kind of like seeing <chrisowen> when he strikes again. I don't see a big downside here. Maybe he's a nut, maybe he's a genius or something in between. It's a mystery and I like not knowing now and then.

Apr-05-22
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  perfidious: I practise passive iggydumb with him; no need to waste a spot when there are others who deserve such a fate far more than he.
Apr-05-22  Hercdon: <counterpoint>Actually Bxd5 leads to mate-in-2: 31.Qf6+ Qg7.Qxg7#
Apr-05-22
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  FSR: <thegoodanarchist> OK, but this would be very easy even for a Monday puzzle. No way it's a Tuesday puzzle.
Apr-05-22
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  gawain: New level: Exceedingly Easy.

Still it is possible to go wrong. One might foolishly try to show off with 31 Qf8+

Apr-05-22  Brenin: <gawain: New level: Exceedingly Easy. Still it is possible to go wrong. One might foolishly try to show off with 31 Qf8+>

31 Qf8+ still wins (see posts by <Teyss> and myself above). It just takes longer.

Apr-07-22
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  thegoodanarchist: <scormus: <thegoodanarchist: ..... humongously thick book .....> I can thoroughly recommend it for training one's tactical skills. And arm strength too.>

I donated my copies to a library, and joined a gym instead.

Apr-07-22
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  thegoodanarchist: <FSR: <thegoodanarchist> OK, but this would be very easy even for a Monday puzzle. No way it's a Tuesday puzzle.>

Fair point, sir.

Apr-30-22
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  Penguincw: < murkia: TGIM. Where's <penguincw> when you need him? >

I'm still around, though not sure how my services are needed here. :p

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