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|Aug-23-07|| ||sanyas: But it seems that the king march wasn't actually sound in this one.|
|Aug-23-07|| ||keypusher: <sanyas> and you think it was in Chigorin-Caro? :-)|
|Aug-23-07|| ||sanyas: Yeah, sure, White's pieces look much better placed there than in this Karpov game. It seems like it might work, whereas the king looks way too exposed here.|
|Aug-24-07|| ||keypusher: <Sanyas> Vukovic annotates Chigorin-Caro in his classic <The Art of Attack> in chess. He concludes that Chigorin's king maneuver was not sound and Black could have gained the advantage at several points. I'll post some of Vukovic's notes on that page.|
|Oct-17-08|| ||sleepyirv: Karpov can defeat you with his King and his King only! Okay, he can't but that was rather amusing.|
|Mar-07-09|| ||outplayer: I can't see this game so it seems that has been deleted.|
|Mar-07-09|| ||Absentee: <outplayer: I can't see this game so it seems that has been deleted.>|
What trouble are you having? I can see it just fine.
|Jul-15-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: Instead of 13.f3 white could play also 13.Rh4!? with idea 13...cxd4 14.g5 |
17...Kxf7! 18.Kxe4 d2! 19.Bxd2 Nc5+ 20.Qxc5 Qxd2 gives black decisive advantage.
|Jul-15-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: <17...Kxf7! 18.Kxe4 d2! 19.Bxd2 Nc5+ 20.Qxc5 Qxd2 gives black decisive advantage.> Of course, 18.fxe4 Ne5 is not much better here.|
|Oct-02-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Karpov centralizes his king in the middlegame!|
|Aug-14-12|| ||maelith: Amusing game by Karpov!!|
|Oct-23-12|| ||HeMateMe: "Holy Wild Game, Batman"! This sure doesn't look like Karpov.|
|Nov-16-12|| ||Ralph 91: what will happen if the black king captured the knight on the 15th move?|
|Feb-09-16|| ||kbob: In other games too Karpov outdoes Steinitz with the early king moves. Dashing out to the very center like the Mad Hatter atop Godzilla.|
|Feb-09-16|| ||morfishine: One of the more bizarre games in the database. Entertaining if nothing else|
|Mar-15-16|| ||Howard: Too bad that Zaitsev died at the age of 36, in 1971.|
|Jul-12-16|| ||Howard: IM John Watson mentioned in one of his books that actually Zaitsev missed a forced win around the 21st move, but I don't recall exactly where or what the move was ?|
Anyone care to guess ?!
|Jul-13-16|| ||Retireborn: 20...e5! then after 21.Rg3 Nc5+ 22.Ke3 0-0 (threat ...Qf4+) 23.Rh3? Rad8 Black is definitely winning.|
Houdini offers 23.h6 as an improvement on this line; then 23...Qf4+ 24.Qxf4 exf4+ 25.Kf2 fxg3+ 26.Kg2 keeps Black's advantage to a minimum.
After 20...h6? 21.Qe3! Black already has no advantage, according to Houdini, although he could have more or less forced a draw with 21...Nf6+ 22.Kd3 Nxg4 23.fxg4 Qxf1+ 24.Kc2 Qxh3 when White has to play 25.Qxe6+ and bale out with a perpetual.
|Jul-19-16|| ||Howard: Just looked it up in Watson's book----he states that 21...Nf6+ would have won for black, and that Karpov's previous move was thus a mistake.|
|Aug-03-16|| ||Howard: Seems a bit strange that no one has commented on that latest post....Karpov's games usually draw a lot of interest on this website.|
|Sep-03-16|| ||tstavernman: Leonard Barden pointed out the win in his latest chess column:|
"Anatoly Karpov v Alexander Zaitsev, Kuibyshev 1970. This bizarre position with the white king out on the open mid-board was actually used for political propaganda in the years when Bobby Fischer had resigned his world crown and the Soviet Union was trying to convince the chess community that Karpov, who had won the title by default, was a worthy and exciting champion. The white queen has just retreated from g5 to e3, when any normal grandmaster, not least Karpov himself in his mature years, would prefer Qg6 forcing off the queens with a small endgame edge for White. After White’s Qe3 the game continued 1...e5 2 Kxd3 Bf4 3 Qg1 0-0 4 Kc2 when the white king has safely returned to base camp and Karpov cashed in his extra pawn. After he became world champion, Soviet commentators heaped praise on his manoeuvre and claimed that it showed how their new hero was a daring tactician as well as the patient and sober strategist which was his normal image. But 30 years later, well after glasnost and the break-up of the USSR, an amateur looked again at the diagram and spotted that Black has a forcing two-move sequence which shatters the white position, Can you see what Zaitzev missed?"
Solution: "1...Nf6+ 2 Kxd3 Nxg4! when both 3 fxg4 Qxf1+ and 3 Qb6 Nf2+ win the h3 rook."
|Jan-30-19|| ||carpovius: "This bizarre position with the white king out on the open mid-board was actually used for political propaganda". You're sick, guys :)|
|May-23-19|| ||alexmagnus: This game is number 3 in Karpov's <Chosen games, 1969-1977> book. |
Funniest to me is not the king maneuver. It's his comment after 1. e4 c6 (translated by me):
<This defence always made a depressing impression on me because of its, if I can put it this way, passive exitlessness. On the other hand, I really learned this opening much later, when I myself decided to use the Caro-Kann in the Candidate match 1974 against B.Spassky. But I must, nevertheless, note that my attitude to the opening did not change and its choice in 1974 was connected with concrete plans of leading a match fight>.
|May-29-19|| ||Everett: <passive exitlessness> a remarkable phrasing|
|May-29-19|| ||perfidious: At all events, Karpov overcame his aversion to 'passive exitlessness' later on, so much so that the line beginning with 4....Nd7 came to be named after him, with 1....c6 one of the twin foundation stones of his play against 1.e4 in the post-title phase of his career.|
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