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Garry Kasparov vs Anatoly Karpov
"Spanish Influenza" (game of the day Jan-15-2015)
Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1985), Moscow URS, rd 5, Sep-14
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  0-1



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Mar-21-04  Lawrence: Karpov says that 41.Nd3 was his sealed move and that Gazza didn't renew the game because Black's passed pawn guarantees victory, so where did the extra 3 moves come from? Or maybe Tolya's memory is not that good.

Moves 36 and 37 were poor on both sides (Junior 8), probably due to time trouble.

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  offramp: I think Karpov was unlucky to win this game!
He kept on trying to repeat the win with the closed Spanish against Kasparov, never won again and lost 7 games. Things might have been different if he had lost this game and switched permanently to the Caro-Kann (but I'm glad he didn't).
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  offramp: <> Could Crafty give us the next dozen moves? I can't see how black wins from the end.

Or could anyone?

Feb-06-05  aw1988: <offramp> Black's position is too strong. I don't believe there is an immediate win, but try something.
Feb-06-05  Granite: Crafty gives this final position as -1.98 and looked at Bd4 for white as his next move. The longer Crafty worked on the final position, the more it seemed to favor Black.
Feb-13-05  Albertan: The move 24.Bd4!? would have been an interesting try. ie. 24. Bd4 Qc2 25. Qxc2 Rxc2 26. Bd5 Bb7 27. Rd1 Ba3 28. Nb3 Ba6 29. Ne1 Rc7 30. f4 Ne6 31. Bxe6 fxe6 32. Ra1 b4 =.
Feb-13-05  Albertan: Karpov, in his analysis of the game, gives the move 24....Qb4 a ! and assigns the move 25.Nb3 a ?!
Feb-16-05  siu02jm: what a game!!! the pieces are well cordinated throughout(well until the end at least) on both sides. i guess kaspa must have underestimated the power of pawn on b file. can someone tell me how he was compensated for this loss of material?

this game is A BAR CANDY TO MY MIND; reminds me computer vs computer games. PERFECT!!!

May-19-05  ksasidhar: Karpov didnot play Caro-Kann against Kasprov becuase he lost four of the eight games and didnot win even one. True that he is master of Caro-Kann but may be he didnot have the confidence to try it again against Kasprov.
May-09-08  marcus231084: Surely white's move 31 has to be Nd4-e6? double the attack on the g7 square, attack the black queen at the same time. all black can do to stop the rot is g7-g6, Be4 - g6 or Nd6-f5. the black queen is gone on the next move and surely a win for kasparov would follow?
Sep-01-08  dzhafner: marcus231084,
31...Bf5 deals very cleanly with 31 Ne6. fxe6 picks up the knight for free. Even the barbaric Rxe6 leaves black ahead about a pawn.
Sep-01-08  Woody Wood Pusher: Call that a passed pawn?...THIS is a passed pawn!
Feb-18-09  nelech: Very nice play by Karpov but in his book Kasparov writes that he could have saved the game with 30 Ne6! So 28...Nd6 ? which was so much praised by commentators at the time was not in fact good . Instead 28...Ra8! is winning according to Kasparov . Fascinating example of modern analysis with the help of computers.
Jun-26-09  Knight13: <offramp: <> Could Crafty give us the next dozen moves? I can't see how black wins from the end.>

So if you were White you'd offer a draw in this game and also if you were Black you would accept it?

Nov-10-09  WhenHarryMetSally: why throw in the towel. its a huge battle on plenty left in the game yet.
Dec-20-09  Hesam7: <offramp: <> Could Crafty give us the next dozen moves? I can't see how black wins from the end.>

Here is what Kasparov has to say:


The sealed move. Although White can still offer some resistance, I resigned the game without resuming (0-1): the conversion of Black's advantage is a matter of straightforward technique. Times: 2.28-2.34>> "Kasparov vs Karpov 1975-1985" by Kasparov

Dec-20-09  zanshin: Rybka 3 on final position:

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[-1.55] d=17 45.Bd4 Bd6 46.Qe3 Qd5 47.g3 Bf5 48.h4 Kf8 49.Nd2 Be5 50.Nf3 Bxd4 51.Nxd4 Ne5 52.Be2 Bh3 53.f3 (0:05.19) 4957kN

Dec-20-09  Hesam7: A condensed version of Kasparov's commentary of critical points of the game:

<<26 Ba1?> is a losing mistake and 26 Nxc5 should hold; now Karpov is winning.

<28...Nd6?> 28...Ra8! was the right path to win.

<30 Qg4?> Kasparov does not exploit Karpov's mistake on the 28th move despite seeing the saving (?) tactical stroke 30 Ne6! during the game.>

Dec-20-09  Hesam7: Actually I really like Kasparov's 30 Ne6!

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<The capture of the knight leads by force to an endgame with a rare balance of forces: 30...fxe6 31 Bxe6+ Kh8 32 Bxc8 Qxc8 33 Be5! Bg6 (not 33...Bc6? 34 Bxd6 Bxd6 35 Qe6!, winning a piece) 34 Bxd6 Bxd6 35 Qxb5, and White has every reason to hope for a draw.

30...Qc2 was recommended as a refutation, but after 31 Qxc2 Rxc2 32 Nxf8 Rxa2 33 Be5 Nc4 34 Rxe4 Kxf8 35 Bd4! Ra8 (or 35...h6 36 Bc5+ Kg8 37 Re8+ Kh7 38 Rb8) 36 Bc5+ Kg8 37 Re7 h5 (37...Rb8 38 Ba7) 38 g4 hxg4 39 hxg4 White again has real chances of draw.

Finally, 30...Qf5 seems very strong, but the unexpected 31 g4! makes it very hard for Black to convert his advantage, for example: 31...Qf3 32 Qxf3 Bxf3 33 Nxf8 Kxf8 34 Be5 Nc4 35 Bxc4 (35 Bc3!?) 35...bxc4 36 Re3 or 31...Qg6 32 Nxf8 Rxf8 33 Be5 Bc6 34 Rc1 with prospects of a draw.

It seems to me that here White could have held on. At any event, the move 30 Ne6! was an excellent practical chance, after the missing of which I lost the game without a fight.>

Jan-15-15  Whitehat1963: Simple and basic question: What's the best finish?
Jan-15-15  crafty: 45. Bd4 Bd6 46. h4 Be5 47. Qe3 Bxd4   (eval -2.08; depth 17 ply; 2000M nodes)
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  offramp: Thanks Crafty. Was I on a waiting list?
Jul-22-15  evilasio: Very long match world champlonship
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  AylerKupp: <evilasio> Not really. Maybe you're confusing this 1985 match with the unlimited 1984 match which was stopped after 48 games had been played. This maximum 24-game match was the same maximum length as all WC matches played since 1951 through 1972 (10 matches) and from 1985 – 1996 (8 games). And of these 19 matches, 7 went the maximum 24 games.
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  AylerKupp: Kasparov vs Karpov, 1985 (part 1 of 2)

<offramp> Since have patiently spent so much time on the waiting list, I think that you deserve additional analyses of the final position:

Here is a summary of 3 engines' evaluations, sorted in order of descending Ratings Adjusted Average:

White's Houdini Komodo Stockfish
Move d=32 d=28 d=40 <St.Avg> <RAdj.Avg>

45.Qe3 [-1.64] [-1.62] [-1.61] <[-1.62]> <[-1.62]>

45.Bd4 [-1.67] [-1.54] [-1.72] <[-1.64]> <[-1.63]>

45.Na5 [------] [-1.79] [------] <[-1.79]> <[-1.79]>

45.Qe2 [------] [------] [-1.95] <[-1.95]> <[-1.95]>

45.g3 [-2.03] [------] [------] <[-2.03]> <[-2.03]>

Here is a summary of how the 3 engines ranked the moves, without regard for the value of the evaluation, although you can see from the evaluations that it's a tossup whether White plays 45.Qe3 or 45.Bd4.

White's Houdini Komodo Stockfish
Move d=32 d=28 d=40 <Avg> <Rank>

45.Qe3 1 2 1 <1.3> <1>

45.Bd4 2 1 2 <1.7> <2>

45.Na5 4 3 4 <3.7> <3>

45.Qe2 4 4 3 <3.7> <3>

45.g3 3 4 4 <3.7> <3>

And here are the 3 top lines for each engine:

Houdini 4, d=32:

1. [-1.64]: 45.Qe3 Qd5 46.Qd4 Qa8 47.Qe3 Qa2 48.Qe2 Qb1 49.Qc2 Qxc2 50.Bxc2 Nc5 51.Bd1 f6 52.Nd4 Bf7 53.Kf1 Bc4+ 54.Be2 Bd5 55.Nc2 Nb3 56.Bb2 Nd2+ 57.Ke1 Nc4 58.Bxc4 Bxc4 59.Kd2 Kf7 60.Ne3 Be6 61.Kc2 Bc5 62.g4 Bb6 63.Kd3 Bc7 64.Bd4

2. [-1.67]: 45.Bd4 Bd6 46.h4 Bf5 47.Qe3 Nf4 48.Bb2 Be6 49.Nd4 Bd5 50.Qe8+ Bf8 51.Nf5 Qe4 52.Qxe4 Bxe4 53.Ne3 Bc5 54.g3 Nd5 55.Nxd5 Bxd5 56.Kf1 f6 57.f4 Kf7 58.Ke2 Bc4+ 59.Kf3 Ke6 60.Bc2 Bg1 61.Kg2 Be3 62.Kf3 Bd2 63.h5 Kd6 64.Bg6 Kc5 65.Ke4 Bc3 66.Bxc3 bxc3 67.Ke3

3. [-2.03]: 45.g3 Qd5 46.Nc1 Bc5 47.Nxd3 Bxd3 48.Bc2 Be4 49.Qxd5 Bxd5 50.Kf1 f6 51.Ke2 Bc4+ 52.Ke1 Kf7 53.Bb2 Ke6 54.Bg6 Kd6 55.g4 b3 56.f3 Be3 57.h4 Kc6 58.Be4+ Kb5 59.Ba3 Bc5 60.Bb2 Bd6 61.Kd1 Bf7 62.Kc1 Kc4 63.Kb1 Bd5

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