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Garry Kasparov vs Anatoly Karpov
Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990), New York, NY USA, rd 4, Oct-17
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jun-24-06  TommyC: I think the game score is incomplete. My database gives:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 O-O 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8 12.a4 h6 13.Bc2 exd4 14.cxd4 Nb4 15.Bb1 c5 16.d5 Nd7 17.Ra3 f5 18.exf5 Nf6 19.Ne4 Bxd5 20.Nxf6+ Qxf6 21.Bd2 Qxb2 22.Bxb4 Bf7 23.Re6 Qxb4 24.Rb3 Qxa4 25.Bc2 Rad8 26.Rbe3 Qb4 27.g3 a5 28.Nh4 d5 29.Qe2 Qc4 30.Bd3 Qc1+ 31.Kg2 c4 32.Bc2 Bxe6 33.Rxe6 Rxe6 34.Qxe6+ Kh8 35.Ng6+ Kh7 36.Qe2 Qg5 37.f6 Qxf6 38.Nxf8+ Kg8 39.Ng6 Qf7 40.Ne7+ Kf8 41.Ng6+ 1/2-1/2

which also tallies with what I remember of the game at the time. I'll report the error.

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  offramp: This game is a truncated version of Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990. I have alerted the authorities.
Jul-01-06  lopezexchange: Pre-arranged game. Blatantly so.
Jul-01-06  TommyC: If the K's were going to prearrange a game, they'd at least make it a good one, silly.
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  offramp: <lopezexchange: Pre-arranged game. Blatantly so.> All commenys on this game will soon be deleted; it is a duplicate.
Jul-01-06  lopezexchange: TommyC, maybe you can stick to chess, huh? Too much to ask, or maybe you feel better when talking like that?
Jul-01-06  TommyC: The internet is freer than a free country, and I will do as I please. Btw, I don't see how calling your point silly is somehow worse than claiming a game *which was never played* was actually pre-arranged, btw.
Jul-01-06  lopezexchange: Yes, the internet is free. Is that why you act like this? The game was played. I did not refer to the wrong entries but to the ones below. Get it? Stick to chess. I assume you are an adult. Act like it. It is simple if you try. I made chess related remarks. Im not interested in name calling with you, or in philosophical discussion of internet freedom. It is free, but I prefer to stick to chess. Thats why Im on a chess Forum. If I wanted abuse or philosophy, I would be on these other kinds of forums.
Jul-01-06  TommyC: Such principle! Alongside groundlessly accusing a non-existent game as being pre-arranged. I guess I'm just not grown-up enough to be as discriminating as you, old bean.
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  offramp: <lopezexchange>

Twice you have been directed to the correct score of this game. Yet even after that you said:

<Jul-01-06 lopezexchange: Pre-arranged game. Blatantly so.>

What is your hang-up?

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  offramp: <TommyC: Btw offramp, do you know how come this 'game' hasn't been deleted yet?!>

Have you ever seen the film 'From Hell' with Johnny Depp?

The <> office is similar to the scene where Inspector Abberline is in a London opium den.

People lie on their backs and smoke from hookahs - am I allowed to say hookahs? Occasionally one of them will rouse and look at the computer screen. What he sees there will sometimes make him weep uncontrollably or, sometimes, laugh like a hyena in heat.

You may have to wait a while for this game to be deleted.

Jul-03-06  TommyC: I see! Thanks for the enjoyably graphic and amusing explanation :)
Jul-11-06  lopezexchange: 39…d4; 40.Qe4,d3; 41.Bd1,Qd4; 42.Qe6+,Kh7; 43.Ne7,Rf8; 44.Qg6+,Kh8 ; 45.Bf3,Qf6; 46.Qe4,Qxf3+; 47.Qxf3,Rxf3; 48.Kxf3,b4; 49.Nd5,c3; 50.Ke3,c2; 51.Kd2,b3; 52.Kc1,d2+; 53.Kxd2,a4; 54.Nb4,a3; 55.Nxc2,a2; 56.Kc1,bxc2; 1-0
Sep-18-08  talisman: black's 22nd.♗-f7....that is some kind of move; the kind i would never see.
Jun-30-09  Knight13: <talisman> But, sir, that bishop was in the open!
Oct-20-10  nelech: according to Kasparov the position after 39 Ng6 is drawn . After 39 ... d4 40 Qe4 d3 41 Bd1! Qd4 42 Qe6+ Kh7 43 Nf4 " White does not leave the ennemy king in peace " . 39... b4 ! "was stronger although even here after 40 Bf5! b3! 41 Qe3 White would not lose "
Mar-01-12  talisman: <Knight13> sorry i missed your reply. what i would've seen was 22...♗xf3 23.♖xf3 ♕xb4 24.♗e4 and white would be fine. Karpov's move leaves white with problems one of which is his pawn blocking his attack.
Jul-16-13  GilesFarnaby: That awkward moment in a Wch Match when you have four connected passed pawns... and you draw.
Apr-10-14  Everett: I believe there is indeed missed win by Karpov with the right timing of ..Bxe6, yet I forget the move number.
Feb-27-20  Howard: So, Karpov had a won position after 28 moves. Strange that Kasparov overlooks that--or maybe he just didn't want to admit to it.
Feb-27-20  Howard: What I fail to understand, though, is where in the next couple moves did Karpov apparently squander part of his advantage according to Stockfish ?
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  beatgiant: <Howard>
Did you not know that you can click on the "Engine" link here on any position and get a Stockfish analysis?
Feb-28-20  Howard: Thanks very much for the suggestion...but where is the engine link ? Or am I going blind ?
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  beatgiant: <Howard>
There is a search function in your browser and you can use it to search for the word "ENGINE" on this page.
Feb-28-20  Howard: Thanks very, very much ! I had to ask a reference librarian for assistance, but she found the engine link for me!

Your advice is much appreciated !!

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