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Anatoly Karpov vs Garry Kasparov
Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990), Lyon FRA, rd 23, Dec-29
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch. Closed Variation (E87)  ·  1-0



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Mar-28-05  Badmojo: By this time, the match was decided. Kasparov was +2, with 2 games remaining.
Mar-28-05  iron maiden: The title was decided, yes, but not the match. If Karpov could have won the last two games to tie Kasparov he would have recieved several thousand dollars more in prize money.
May-05-05  avidfan: Why did Black give away pawn and bishop on moves 24 and 25?
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  alexmagnus: was a blunder and nobody remarked it:)
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  alexmagnus: As I know Karpov thought 9 minutes after KasparovĀ“s Bxd5 but found noc compensation.. The came is one of the most curious in the world championship history
Jun-02-05  Heavy Metal Thunder: Curious indeed. Weinstein must have been drunk or stoned when they pre-arranged this game.
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  wwall: Perhaps 24...Ba4 was better.

If 25...Rfd8, then 26.d6 Qd7 27.Bd4 Ba4 28.Ne5 Qe8 29.Qf4 should win. If 25...Qa3+, then 26.Qb2 Qxb2 27.Kxb2 Bd7 28.Nf2 Rfe8 29.Bh5 should win. If 25...Ba4, then 26.d6 Qe6 (26...Qd7 27.Rdf1 and 28.Bd4 should be good for White) 27.Bd4 Bxd1 28.Rxd1 Rf7 29.h5 should be good for White.

If 26...Qa3+ 27.Kb1 Qxc3 (threatening 28...Qb2 mate) 28.Bd4 Qb4+ 29.Qb3

After 29.Bd4, if 29...Rc6 30.Ne5 Rxd6 31.Nxf7+ Rxf7 32.Bxg7+ and 33.Rxd6 wins. If 29...Rb3+ 30.axb3 Qxb3+ 31.Ka1 Qa4+ 32.Kb2 wins.

Jul-04-06  RookFile: Karpov says "Tricks are for kids" here.
Nov-22-07  xeroxmachine: <Heavy Metal Thunder: Curious indeed. Weinstein must have been drunk or stoned when they pre-arranged this game.> The old chess is dead, it's been played out. Its all pre-arranged games the Russians have fixed world chess.
Oct-12-08  Everett: <alexmagnus>

Not curious at all. Kasparov was assured another 3 years of piece by showing he was superior to Karpov in previous games. He didn't need to be as sharp and played a little too relaxed.

Nov-07-08  PolishPentium: Query: Would 26...Qa3+ have been better for GK here? At first glance, it seemed terribly obvious, but then after thinking more deeply it seemed that the best reply for AK (27 Kb1) would have left Kaspy without any logical continuation; e.g., 27...Qxc3 (??) 28 Bd4+ (!) would leave Black in a world of hurt, as the expression goes. Thus to answer my own question, it does in fact appear that Qa3+ would be unproductive after all. Would one of you bright (er) bunnies be able to confirm or deny this suggestion? Thanks...

Needless to say, Black's dire situation before move 26 would not have occurred if he hadn't, as alluded to earlier, played such a bizarre sequence for moves 24 and 25.^^ What would have been some better options for GK then? Thanks again...

Nov-07-08  PolishPentium: Going back to earlier in the game, it seems that GK also could have improved on his 17th move, if only slightly. This duffer believes intuitively that 17...f4 would be preferable to the given 17...e4, but he (PP) certainly can't prove that conclusively. It seems good to cut off W's black-square B from the Q's support, but maybe that's not so important. Regardless, would any of you bright boys wish to take up the challenge of confirming or rebuking this idea?^^

Mar-09-09  WhiteRook48: 25...Bxd5?? is ridiculous from Kasparov
Jul-27-09  WhiteRook48: 9...Qe7??
Jul-27-09  pastpawn: If 9 ... ♘xg3 10 ♗f2 wins, no?
Jul-27-09  pastpawn: Er, actually make that 10 ♕f2, since 10 ♗f2 is met by 10 ... ♗h6 11 ♕ somewhere ♗f4
Jul-28-09  WhiteRook48: no 10 Bf2? is met by 10...Nxf1 and white loses a pawn 10 Qf2 Nxf1!! 11 Qxh4 Nxe3 12 Ke2 Nxc4
Oct-05-10  matherd1: Is this Karpov's last ever win against Kasparov at classical time controls? If so, I wonder if anyone would have guessed it would be at the time? Not that its really a significant stat, given that Karpov's best performance was still to come at Linares 1994. Inded, he probably didn't start to seriously decline compared to his post 75 level until after 1996.
Nov-14-11  talisman: probably a mental letdown after securing the title with the previous one seems to have mentioned 19...♘a4?...looks like after this the end is quick.
Mar-24-15  carpovius: like very much <Heavy Metal Thunder> & <xeroxmachine> comments!
Jul-19-15  tivrfoa: <avidfan: Why did Black give away pawn and bishop on moves 24 and 25?> Probably Kasparov didn't see 27. Qd6
Jul-20-15  tivrfoa: They playing this game:
Jul-22-15  RookFile: No nonsense win by Karpov. I guess Kasparov just went through the motions, since he knew he was going to keep the title.
Jul-29-15  rgr459: He did go through the motions with the basic KID strategy - he committed with the kingside pawn-storm which exposed him after Anatoly castled to the other wing.
Mar-03-19  rcs784: Astonishingly, this game appears to be the last time Karpov ever beat Kasparov at classical time controls.
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