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Anatoly Karpov vs Garry Kasparov
"First Contact" (game of the day Jul-26-2019)
Leningrad (1975) (exhibition), Leningrad URS
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf. Opocensky Variation (B92)  ·  1-0



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Sep-18-12  JohnBoy: For posterity, this should be attached to the game record.

Jan-18-14  GREYSTRIPE: In this paramountcy, Karpov the Genius of Tournament Chess festooned the Knights and Bishops for Bishops Advance with Queens and Pawns. The center-exchange left Queen with pawn-holds. The end-game-sums were long game standard, which to Karpov, is no strange experience. The way of victory pronounced from the proper placement of Queen and Pawns-holds. This excellent example of chess genius is a treatise on the appositeness of Rook-restraint and pawns for Queen's positions for Center-Holds-Gains in Tournament-level play-of-chess.
Mar-31-14  epicchess: Replying to GrahamClayton, and others who listened to his comment. It is not true that the other boys in the Bkau Young Pioneers looked lost, in fact, Kasparov didn't always play on the first board. It is majorly unknown that IM Mikhail Shur played on the first board on many occasion, and was offered a draw by Karpov! He felt that he was winning, and he was. He said no, to the world champion! Although he later lost, let this be an inspiration to you all, since if you feel you are winning, one should never settle for a draw even if the player sitting on the other side is the world champion.
Apr-17-14  MrJafari: Maybe Kasparov could have won if didn't exchange his Rook with Karpov Bishop!
Jan-17-15  N.O.F. NAJDORF: Sovietsky Sport reported: "During A Karpov's session with the schoolchildren from Baku, the point came where the world champion had just one opponent left, twelve-year-old candidate master Garik Kasparov..."


It was twelve-year-old candidate master Garik Weinstein

Jan-17-15  WDenayer: Cerpico, I dislike some of these comments as much as you – 'let me analyse this, Fritz says …' and some moves follow that no one who is not a super-GM would ever find. But what can you do about it? I wish that these people would understand that they lower their own capabilities each time that they start up an engine. It teaches you nothing. An analysis full of holes is incredibly much better than typing up what an engine produces. At least you learn something. You get better. But some people don't want to do that and if they want to reproduce an analysis, well, it's their right. I have no title at all. I stopped playing chess 35 years ago. I certainly had the ability to become titles (but not GM), if I would have worked very hard. I always liked chess, but I didn't like it that much that I wanted to devote my life to it. What was I going to do with it? I know some grandmasters, people who are really bright, who work on chess like I could have never done. It strikes me as madness, as complete neurosis. I like chess. If I have to look at a board for a whole day, I get physically sick. Do you have any idea how little some of these people make? It's very little. Divorce, heart disease, depression, isolation, nihilism, addiction. Except for the elite, there is no money in chess.

There's nothing wrong about talking about old masters. I like anecdotes. I often read things here that I did not know. Sometimes it is gossip, so what? There are great anecdotes. It tells you something about the people behind the moves. It's very well possible to find mistakes in a game of Steinitz. The point is not that you are better than Steinitz, but that you made the effort of analysing one of this games and found an improvement. I think that's great.

Jun-18-15  NikMuhdHaziq: Garbage Master
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  AylerKupp: <WDenayer> Why do you say that people lower their own capabilities each time that they start up an engine and that it teaches you nothing? I use engines all the time to analyze positions that I don't understand (most of them) and afterwards I try to figure out why the engine selected the moves that it did. I do analyses using multiple engines (they all give different results), review each of the engines' moves, and use forward sliding to get around the engines' horizon effect. Yes, it takes time and effort, but I think that I learn a lot from the effort and that I am a better player as a result.

And why do you say that an analysis full of holes is incredibly much better than typing up what an engine produces? That depends on what your objective is. If your objective is to demonstrate how poor of an analyst you are, then OK. But if your objective is to try find out the proper evaluation and the best moves in a given position, then getting help from sources better than you are, whether they are human or not, will give the best result.

It’s clear that you don't know anything about chess engines and how to use them properly. Or perhaps you are one of those that for some reason are fearful of computers and think that somehow using them cheapens the game and somehow makes it less "noble" or stuff like that. But it is clear from your post that you never wanted to work very hard at improving your chess game. Some might even call it laziness. Too bad.

Jan-16-16  CAPPYJAK: You all have no idea of the amount of enjoyment it gives me to play over the master games. When i was playing regular before the chess clubs were ruled off limits by the real estate industry, i became lost in a complex position so much so that i became part of the pieces and the board. I was a rather strong player but have nobody to play with now. If anyone knows of someone who wants to play a game or 2 with me please advise at
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  Domdaniel: <WDenayer> Money isn't everything. You cannot simply condemn chess players because they don't make enough money by your standards.

I don't know where you live, but your connection between chess achievement and financial success is reminiscent of the neurotic sensibility which accompanied American chess in the past 150 years - from Morphy to Fischer and beyond.

Several of the strongest players seemingly had psychological problems because chess failed to reward them financially at a level commensurate with their genius.

In other societies, this seeming failure might be shrugged off. But in the USA, the drive to financial success made other parameters less relevant.

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  Domdaniel: <CAPPYJAK> Forgive me, but I doubt that you were a 'rather strong' player. I have no wish to insult you, but your previous post betrays a poor understanding of contemporary chess.

There are many people here who would happily play you, especially if you were a 'rather strong' player, as claimed - but I'm afraid you'll have to come up with evidence to support your claim.

Oct-07-17  The Boomerang: What a game from 12yr old Kasparov!
Mar-02-18  Allanur: The first encounter of the two legends. Even at 12 Kasparov was good against then World champion.
Sep-06-18  jabinjikanza: Good game young Kaspa
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  woldsmandriffield: An interesting encounter! 22..Bg5 picks up the exchange (more or less) after the entertaining tour 23 b3 Bb5 24 a4 Bd7 25 Re2 Bg4
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  playground player: White wins despite having a tripled pawn! Is that allowed?
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  perfidious: Champ beats up on kid.

Not to worry--the beeg booly faced retribution in the end, ten years on.

Jul-26-19  nok: Seeing the cryptic manuevers Rf2-d2, Be3-g1, you immediately know who's behind the white pieces.
Jul-26-19  cormier: -0.75 (22 ply) after 18...Re8 19.Nc6 Qb6 20.Bxe5 Bxe5 21.Nxe5 Rxe5 22.Rd4 Qc5
Jul-26-19  cunctatorg: A hard fight though!!...
Jul-26-19  cormier: 18...Nxf3 was better .....
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  Richard Taylor: Karpov and Kasparov were fairly evenly matched. Kasparov's ravings were contradicted by the fact that he respected Karpov as a person and a player (overall I mean). Like Korchnoi he tried to make capital out of the fact that he was the "hard done by up and coming player" (although Korchnoi was more established).

Later in the 90s they almost became Kap-a-Kasrov...almost one unit who created some fascinating games. It seems Kasparov won out: a lot of it due to his teams and preparation. But then along came Kramnik...

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  eternaloptimist: It was a smart idea on Karpov’s part to steer the game toward getting a ♕ endgame. That way he could keep the game complicated for his young inexperienced opponent...talented but inexperienced. Karpov didn’t even move his ♕ until he was forced to on his 30th move. Karpov probably only had a ⩲ when the ♕ ending was first reached. Then he was able to easily build up a +- & win the game.
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  Check It Out: Kasparov gave Karpov a good challenge for an upstart 12 year old versus the world champion in their first game together. A hint of things to come...
Sep-30-22  tonsillolith: There's something pleasing about the dominating, central position of <38. Qe4>, holding together all of White's messy looking pawns.

<... your connection between chess achievement and financial success is reminiscent of the neurotic sensibility which accompanied American chess in the past 150 years - from Morphy to Fischer and beyond.

Several of the strongest players seemingly had psychological problems because chess failed to reward them financially at a level commensurate with their genius.>

What more could you want than the smug satisfaction of thinking oneself cognitively superior to others?

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