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Anatoly Karpov vs Viktor Korchnoi
Karpov - Korchnoi World Championship Match (1978), City of Baguio PHI, rd 28, Sep-30
Spanish Game: Open. Berlin Variation (C82)  ·  0-1

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Jan-30-08  slomarko: Spassky has made a lot of stupid analysis in his life so yes i don't believe everything he says. btw go please check the game he lost in the match against Karpov where he played the king's indian. he played it so terribly its unwatchable really.
Jan-30-08
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  whiteshark: <42...c5 was the sealed move> Incredible that Karpov blundered only two moves later.
Apr-10-08  Knight13: <Brown> He wasn't using descriptive.

I still think White should've played 35. Kt-B6. If Black goes 35...Kt-B4 then go back with Kt-Kt4. Wait nevermind 35...R-QB5 kills White.

Apr-11-09  WhiteRook48: 61...Kd8 62 Rxa3 b2 63 Ra8+ Ke7 64 Re5+ Kf6 65 Re1 b1Q 66 Rxb1 Rxb1 where all white can hope for is that his two pawns can make headway against an entire rook
Apr-09-10
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  thegoodanarchist: Korchnoi figured out early that he was superior to Karpov in endings. So he had a nice strategy of getting into endgames that had lots of "play" remaining, and then just outmaneuvering Karpov to win.

Fischer thought Korchnoi would be a tough opponent for him, and said he did not understand Korchnoi's moves. Apparently, Fischer was not alone! Karpov was in the same boat.

Feb-25-11  M.D. Wilson: Fischer not understanding Korchnoi was more to do with the former's uncertainty when it came to what openings to use.
Feb-25-11
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  HeMateMe: <It turned out to be a good strategy since he won games 28, 29 and 31 in this way and managed to make the score 5-5 before the last game. >

Maybe also, Karpov's frail physique and the Phillippines heat hurt his play toward the end. Unusual for a player like Karpov to lose 3 out of 4 games. Reminds me of the last two weeks of the aborted '84 match with Kasparov.

Someone should have told Korchnoi that his thin adversary is getting the worse of it in a long match, just play your best openings and keep the match going, wait for some weak moves or outright blunders....alas, an unsound pirc was played.

The USSR had Korchnoi's son Igor, in a labor camp, for refusing the madatory military service every young man there has to serve, after high school. Interesting, how many countries have that. England had it till the late 50s or early 60s. Switzerland and Israel still have compulsory 1-2 years military service after high school.

I don't think the army in the USA would really want our high school kids. They must be quite happy with the all volunteer army.

Feb-25-11  M.D. Wilson: Iron sharpens iron.
Feb-25-11  Everett: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shar...

Seems many things sharpen iron.

Mar-01-11  M.D. Wilson: Didn't Korchnoi criticize Karpov's endgame technique after their 1974 candidates match? He was less than generous about it, from memory.
Mar-24-14
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  thegoodanarchist: <M.D. Wilson: Fischer not understanding Korchnoi was more to do with the former's uncertainty when it came to what openings to use.>

No, this is not correct. Fischer said he didn't understand Korchnoi's <moves>. This was in reply to the question of which player would be more difficult to face in the WC match, Karpov or Korchnoi.

Mar-24-14  Petrosianic: <The USSR had Korchnoi's son Igor, in a labor camp, for refusing the madatory military service every young man there has to serve, after high school.>

I've heard that this charge was basically trumped up in this particular case. Of course Korchnoi could have gotten them out simply by refusing to play. The world would never have accepted Karpov by forfeit twice. They wouldn't have accepted him even once if Fischer had played outside of FIDE.

Mar-24-14
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  keypusher: <The USSR had Korchnoi's son Igor, in a labor camp, for refusing the madatory military service every young man there has to serve, after high school.>

Not during this match. The next one. See below.

Phillips & Drew Kings (1982)

May-18-14
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  thegoodanarchist: I already submitted a pun for this game, but I thought of a better one:

"Ich bin eine Berliner"

May-18-14
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  perfidious: 'I am a jelly doughnut'?
May-18-14
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  offramp: I mention this game to help explain Kortschnoij's "castling-rules" joke in Korchnoi vs Karpov, 1974.
May-18-14
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  offramp: <thegoodanarchist: Since these guys weren't speaking, how did they resign? Did they just walk out? Tip the king? Stop the clock? Anyone know?>

They used a system of gestures.
The gesture for <I resign> was as follows:

<<"Rule 27.3 Gesture for resigning during a game.>

Standing fully upright extend the right leg forward with the heel touching the floor.

Place the palm of the right hand touching your eyebrows.

With the left hand make a horizontal circle with the index finger at the level of the left ear.

Interlace both palms on top of the head. Pivot entire body on LEFT heel. leave stage.">

The whole Gesteregelbuch, compiled by Lothar Schmid, makes fascinating reading.

Jul-26-14  Howard: Very simply put, draw offers and resignations were conveyed through the late Lothar Schmid.

As I recall, in the 1981 match Korchnoi reportedly got upset on at least one occasion when Karpov offered a draw to him simply by asking him directly--rather than doing it through the referee. Despite the animosity between the two, it seemed like a petty complaint to me.

Jan-20-16  Howard: Anyone have some engine analysis to contribute here ?

Kasparov implies in MGP-V that the adjourned position was pretty much lost for Karpov, but is that really true?

Jan-20-16
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  Joshka: Good idea, it almost looks like Victor could be mated here.....but if Garry says he's lost why argue;-)
Jan-20-16
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  Joshka: Also if anyone is near Lindeborg, maybe we can track down Toyla;-)
Feb-25-16  Howard: Where was the point of no return---that is, at one point, did Karpov throw away the draw for good ?
Apr-14-16  Howard: To repeat....see the above inquiry.
Apr-14-16  kingfu: My amateur brain says 43. d5. If he wanted a draw, why not play 43. pxp? The would cause simplification with R and 4 pawns each.
Apr-14-16
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  plang: 43 dxc would cost White the a-pawn giving Black connected passed pawns - doubt that is the type of simplification that White needs
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