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Jan Timman vs Anatoly Karpov
Bugojno (1978), Bugojno YUG, rd 5, Mar-03
Queen's Gambit Declined: Charousek (Petrosian) Variation (D31)  ·  1-0



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Feb-04-03  Spitecheck: Yes, seems Karpov wasn't up to the race in this one , nice game all round though.
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  ToTheDeath: Very one-sided route. Karpov's passive play gave up far too much initiative. 17... b4? makes little sense after Rc8- Black should of course be playing for ...c5 ASAP.

23. Rxh6 is a nice shot. 23... gxh6 24. Qg6+ Kf8 25. Nf5.

Timman could have won even quicker with 28.Nxg7! e.g, ...Kxg7 29. Rh7+ Kg8 30. Qf5 Rf8 31. Rh8+!

Feb-12-12  wordfunph: "Timman played brilliantly in this game. I wasn't feeling too well, and couldn't think clearly - this can be seen throughout the game. I handled the opening without paying much attention and quickly fell into an inferior position. Just as I began to feel that I would inevitably lose, I decided to dig in. At one point it even seemed that there were some chance of a draw, but Timman managed to finish me off."

- Anatoly Karpov

Source: Learn From Your Defeats by Karpov, Batsford 1985

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  perfidious: This game features the unusual material balance of two rooks vs three minor pieces, one which normally favours the minors, but Karpov's weak pawns caused him difficulties which he found insuperable in the end. The result: a rare loss for the champion on his way to finishing equal first with Spassky in this event, a fine result for the latter.
Mar-10-16  Howard: Oh, God! That "book" Learn From Your Defeats was awful !
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  ChessHigherCat: I must be missing something because this seems absurdly obvious for a Sunday:

23. Rxh6 gxh6 (fxe5 Re6) 24. Qg8+ and with the open h file and proximity of the knight, it's mating season.

Maybe the tricky variation is 23. hxg6 Nf8...This is a tough one, maybe 24. Nf5 gxh3 25. Nxh6+ Kh8 26. Rh1 or something

Well having looked at the puzzle, I conclude I was right: 1) I was missing something
2) That knight f8 defense is a tough bugger to defeat

I nevertheless award myself the honorary Japanese title: SOKOGI, (Sort-Of-Kind-Of-Got-It)

Jul-30-17  yadasampati: Pure intuition, 2 seconds: Rxh6
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  patzer2: For today's Sunday puzzle, I correctly guessed White's first move was the demolition 23. Rxh6!

If 23...gxh6, White mates after 24. Qg6+ Ng7 25. Nf5 Bf8 26. Nxh6+ Kh8 27. Nf7+ Kg8 28. Rh1 b3 29. Rh8#.

Following 23...Nef8, I thought I had guessed incorrectly with 24. Qh2!

However, when I plugged it into Stockfish 8, my move 24. Qh2! (+5.41 @ 29 depth) turned out to be the computer's second choice.

Best apparently is 24. Nf5! (+8.70 @ 29 depth.)

The game continuation 24. Rh3! (+3.70 @ 29 depth) is Stockfish 8's third choice.

My move-by-move look with Stockfish 8 at the win with 24. Qh2! goes 24.Qh2! gxh6 25.Qxh6 fxe5 26.Nf5 Bf6 27.g5 Bh8 28.Rh1 Re6 29.Qxh8+ Kf7 30.Rh7+ Ke8 31.Ng7+ Ke7 32.Nxe6+ Kxe6 33.fxe5 cxd4 34.exd4 Qe8 35.Rg7 Kf5 36.Qh1 Ne6 37.Qf3+ Nf4 38.g6 Nf8 39.Rf7+ Kxg6 (39...Qxf7 40.gxf7 ) 40.Rxf4 Kg7 41.Rg4+ Ng6 42.Qf6+ Kh7 43.Rg1 b3 44.axb3 a6 45.e6 a5 46.e7 a4 47.bxa4 Kg8 48.Rxg6+ Qxg6+ 49.Qxg6+ Kh8 50.e8=Q#.

P.S.: It's difficult to find improvements for Black in this game. However, according to the Opening Explorer Black has had better results by replacing the game move 7...c6 with 7...c5 as in V Moskalenko vs Y Kruppa, 1988 when Black's more active play after 7...c5 appears to compensate for the weakness of the isolated pawn.

Of course for my taste, I find 1. c4 e6 a bit passive, and prefer to go for the fight right away with 1. c4 e5 = as in Black's recent win in Aronian vs Harikrishna, 2017.

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  ChessHigherCat: Correction:

23. Rxh6 gxh6 (fxe5 Re6) 24. Qg6+ and with the open h file and proximity of the knight, it's mating season.

Maybe the tricky variation is

23. Rxh6 Nf8...This is a tough one, maybe 24. Nf5 gxh3 25. Nxh6+ Kh8 26. Rh1 or something

<Patzer2: Best apparently is 24. Nf5! (+8.70 @ 29 depth.)>

Please to give next couple moves in that line, I want to see if I was anywhere close.

Jul-30-17  stacase: Another vote for guessing the obvious first move - at the very least a free Pawn.
Jul-30-17  Dijon15: <Howard: Oh, God! That "book" Learn From Your Defeats was awful !>

Amazon has one copy available @ $62.24!

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  ChessHigherCat: "Dancing with dee feets" is even worse.
Jul-30-17  gofer: Okay, we a pawn down, but an exchange up. We have a semi-open h file and a rook willing and able to open it completely...

<23 Rxh6 ...>

The rook is immune!

23 ... gxh6
24 Qg6+ ...

24 ... Kh8
25 Qxh6+ Kg8
26 Qg6+ ...

This forces one of the other two lines...

24 ... Ng7
25 Nf5 Bf8
26 Nxh6+ Kh8
27 Nf7+ Kg8
28 Rh1 any move
29 Rh8#

24 ... Kf8
25 Nf5 ...

Black has no good moves and white threatens Nxh6 with mate on f7 or g8 next!

25 ... Ne6 anywhere 26 Qxg7#/Qg7#

25 ... Nb8/Nb6/Any Queen move 26 Nxh6 mating

25 ... Bd8 26 Bd6+ Rd7/Bd7 27 Nxh6 mating

25 ... Rd8/fxe5 27 Nxh6 mating

So what can black do instead of accepting the rook sac?!

23 ... fxe5
24 Qh7+ Kf8 (Kf7 Qg6+ mating)
25 Rxe6 Nf6
26 Rxf6 Bxf6
27 Nf5!


Hmm, I gave up too early <23 ... Nef8> is an obvious reply in hindsight. Yep, definitely <Sunday> level stuff...

Jul-30-17  morfishine: <23.Rxh6> looks fairly obvious


Jul-30-17  malt: Got 23.R:h6 Nef8
(23...gh6 24.Qg6+ Ng7 25.Nf5 Bf8 26.N:h6+ Kh8 27.Nf7+ Kg8 28.Rh1 and 29.Rh8# ) 24.Rh3
Jul-30-17  Walter Glattke: 23.Nf5 also is strong, but after 23.g5 black can resign. 23.Rxh6 is for the audience.
Jul-30-17  morfishine: In decisive classical games, Karpov won 30 vs 8 wins for Timman. While Karpov clearly dominated, Timman's wins were not only entertaining, but instructive


Jul-30-17  takchess: Having trouble with this ones as there are a few moves involving Knight, Pawns rooks the queen that could start it off. in guessing at this point I would say rxh 6 starts off the fireworks. followed by queen and knight moves.
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  devere: 23.Rxh6 wins a pawn. After that winning the game is just a matter of good technique (LOL).
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  agb2002: White has a rook for a knight and a pawn.

Black threatens fxe5.

White can play 23.f5 to save the piece (23... fxe5 24.fxe6; 23... Nxd4 24.Bxd4 cxd4 25.Qxc8 Rxc8 26.Rxd4).


Another option is to try and take advantage of the open h-file with 23.Rxh6:

A) 23... gxh6 24.Qg6+

A.1) 24... Ng7 25.Nf5 Bf8 26.Nxh6+ Kh8 27.Nf7+ Kg8 28.Rh8 and 29.Rh8#.

A.2) 24... Kf8 25.Qxh6+

A.2.a) 25... Ng7 26.Nf5 Kf7 (26... Rd8 27.Qxg7+ Ke8 28.Qxe7#) 27.Qxg7+ Ke6 28.f5#.

A.2.b) 25... Kf7 26.f5

A.2.b.i) 26... fxe5 27.fxe6+ Kg8 28.Qg6+ and mate next.

A.2.b.ii) 26... Nxe5 27.dxe5 (27.fxe6+ Qxe6 28.dxe5 Qxe5 unclear) 27... Nf8 28.e6+ Nxe6 (28... Kg8 29.Nh5 Nxe6 30.fxe6 Bf8 31.Nxf6#) 29.Qg6+ Kf8 30.Rh8 Bd8 31.fxe6 Qxe6 32.Rh8+ Ke7 33.Rxe8+ and 34.Rxe6 wins.

A.2.c) 25... Kg8 26.Qg6+ Kf8 (26... Kh8 27.Rh1#; 26... Ng7 26.Nf5 as in A.2.a) 27.Rh8 Bd8 28.Nf5 wins.

A.3) 24... Kh8 25.Qxh6+ Kg8 26.Qg6+ Kf8 transposes to A.2 (27... Kh8 28.Rh1#).

B) 23... fxe5 24.Rxe6 + - [R vs b] (24... Nf8 25.Rxe5).

C) 23... Ndf8 24.Rh3 fxe6 25.dxe5 with balanced material but a number of threats (Rxd5, f5, Qh2, etc.).


I'm not sure but I think I'd play 23.Rxh6.

Jul-30-17  offramp: <morfishine: In decisive classical games, Karpov won 30 vs 8 wins for Timman. While Karpov clearly dominated, Timman's wins were not only entertaining, but instructive>

Very true. Timman won the Paris Immopar tournament in 1991 beating Kamsky, Anand, Karpov and finally Timman vs Kasparov, 1991.

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  patzer2: Not sure why it would make any difference, but according to Repertoire Explorer: Anatoly Karpov (black) Karpov has had much better results with 4...Nf6 than with 4...Be7.

In the next game Karpov played against this opponent in Timman vs Karpov, 1982, he secured the draw easily after the switch to 4...Nf6.

P.S.: Perhaps there's something to the old Chess maxim about "Knights before Bishops" even in the relatively quiet QGD opening lines.

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  An Englishman: Good Afternoon: Only saw a few variations, and in real life never would have played the key move, so no credit for me and 5/7 for the week. Or in simple English, back to normal.
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  GrahamClayton: Timman's post-game analysis showed a quicker, decisive combination with 28. Nxg7 Kxg7 29. Rh7+ Kg8 30. Rh8+ Nxh8 31. Qh7+ Kf8 32. Qxh8+ Kf7 33. Rh7+ Ke6 34. Qxe8 with the twin threats of 35. Qe7# and 35. Qg6+.
May-27-22  Granny O Doul: ...not to mention 35. Qg8#, 35. Qf7#, and 35. Rxe7#.

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