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Viktor Korchnoi vs Anatoly Karpov
"Korchnoi's Complaint" (game of the day Aug-12-2010)
Karpov - Korchnoi World Championship Match (1978), City of Baguio PHI, rd 31, Oct-12
Queen's Gambit Declined: Exchange. Positional Variation (D35)  ·  1-0

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Sep-10-17  Granny O Doul: <diagonal> That "no excellent beauty" quote comes from Francis Bacon, when Poe was not yet even a dream within a dream.
Sep-10-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <Granny O Doul: <diagonal> That "no excellent beauty" quote comes from Francis Bacon, when Poe was not yet even a dream within a dream.>

But already three-fourths of a poet.

<andrea volponi: 49 Re6 (!kasparov +-)Rg3+ -Ke4 Ra3! -d5 Ra4+ -Kd3 Rxa5 -d6 Ra3+ -Kd2 b4 -Re7+ Kf8 -Rxb7 Ke8 -Rxb4 Ra5 -Rc4 Kd7 -Kd3 h5 -h4 ⩲>

Thanks. This line wins for white, right?:

49. Kc3 Rg3+ 50. Kb4 Rxh3 51. a6 bxa6 52. Ka5 Ra3+ 53. Kb6 a5 54. Kxc6 Rd3 55. d5 b4 56. d6 b3 57. Re7+ Kf8 58. Rb7 a4 59. Rb4

Sep-10-17  offramp: Francis Bacon also said: "<Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.>"
Sep-12-17  andrea volponi: chesshighercat:this line wins for white?,no 49 Re6 it is a draw.
May-12-18  morfishine: Wooo Doggy, Karpov's pawns sure disappeared quick...real quick
May-23-18  belgradegambit: Bumped in honor of Philip Roth who passed away yesterday.
Jun-18-18  Omnipotent00001: 68. Re3 mates in 28.
Oct-17-18  DrGridlock: Nice video lecture on this game by Akobian (beginner/intermediate class at St Louis Chess Club) here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZg...

Oct-18-18
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  harrylime: Maybe we can say History has been kind to Karpov....

Fischer would have destroyed him in 1975.

Oct-18-18  Count Wedgemore: <harrylime: Fischer would have destroyed him in 1975.>

Destroyed him like a Taimsnov or Larsen? No way, <harry>. He did by no means destroy Spassky in '72 (the final score was 12½ - 8½ in Fischer's favour). It is hard to believe that Karpov would have fared significantly worse than Spassky. My guess is that Fischer would have won, but not by that much, I think. And he would most certainly not have obliterated him. That is highly unlikely.

But we will never know..

Oct-18-18
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  harrylime: <The Count>

A motivated Fischer would have been too hot for Karpov in 75 ... and it wasn't just Karpov, it was the entire Soviet establishment Bobby would have been , and actually already was, facing ... .. Those days were surreal and hard to relate to now!

I love Karpov and respect him immensely . But Fischer was a different animal.

Jun-03-19
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  RadioBoy: The key to rook and pawn or King and pawn endgames is learning all of the nasty little tricks, preferably not by losing over the board. Then keeping an eye out for when you are in or may be in one of these positions or can trade down into one of these positions, especially if you are the unhappy soul who is going to be at the receiving end of the trick. I'm sure there are many in this game, but the one I will remember is the sacrifice of the pawn to temporarily to gain King entry. The first trick that I learned was with white rook and pawn at A8 and A7, and the black king having the choice of h7 or G7. Unfortunately, at the tail end of a long combination my black king ended up on f7. however I was more than happy to pass on this knowledge to the next generation when I could.
Jun-19-19  Howard: Kasparov, as I recall, states in MGP that the adjourned position was probably already won for White...but Stockfish seems to strongly disagree.
Jun-19-19
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  Fusilli: <Howard: Kasparov, as I recall, states in MGP that the adjourned position was probably already won for White...but Stockfish seems to strongly disagree.>

My interpretation of that is that Kasparov is saying a strong GM should win against another strong GM, while Stockfish is objecting "but Alpha Zero, with perfect play, would save it for Black!" They are probably both right.

BTW, at the beginning of all the kibitzing on this game, <drukenknight> says adjournment was at move 47, with White sealing his move. Is that true? If the time control was at 40 (was it?), it seems like a lot of moves before adjourning when there was so much at stake.

Jun-19-19  areknames: <Fusilli> According to Larsen's book the adjournment was on move 47 although it was Karpov who sealed his move. Larsen writes: "It is rather astonishing that Karpov spent less than 10 minutes on moves 31-40; he still had more than an hour left on his clock at move 40!" Also, commenting on 41.e4!?: "Looks risky, but Korchnoi may have thought that after the adjournment he wouldn't get a chance to play this move."
Jun-21-19  Howard: Doesn't the book Korchnoi: Move by Move analyze this game ?
Jun-22-19
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  whiteshark: <Howard> p 425-434

Korchnoi also has analysed the resulting ♖endgame after <46...axb5> on 23 pages in his book --> Game Collection: 28a_Korchnoi's "Practical Rook Endings"

Jun-25-19  Howard: Yes, I am aware of that book---Korchnoi analyzes that endgame to death in his book.
Aug-26-19  KID Slayer: Excellent finish by Viktor my all-time fave! Reminds me of the classic Capa-Tartakower match of 1924 with 49.Kc3! that takes the rook-and-pawn ending in real style.
Nov-19-21
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  saffuna: Daniel King discusses this game on the Perpetual Chess podcast.

He says he discussed this game with Korchnoi, how Karpov could have drawn.

"It was a draw, but that's kind of irrelevant. Korchnoi's concept in that rook-and-pawn endgame, was out of this world. The whole game was like a saga, it was an epic game."

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca... At about 1:04. wherever you can

Dec-06-21  Albertan: This game has been analyzed by GM Akobian at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZg...

Jul-01-22  cormier: depth=39 | Komodo 2901.00
+1.50 59... Rd4 60. Rxb3 a4 61. Rg3 Kb8 62. Ra3 Rf4 63. Kd6 Rxf5 64. Rxa4 Rf2 65. Rg4 Rd2+ 66. Kc6 f5 67. Rb4+ Kc8 68. Rf4 Rd7 69. Rxf5 Rc7+ 70. Kb5 Rb7+ 71. Kc4 Re7 72. Rf6 Re4+ 73. Kb5 Rh4 74. Kb6 Kd8 75. Rf8+ Ke7 76. Rf3 Kd8 77. Rd3+ Kc8 78. Rg3 Kd8 79. Rb3 Rc4 80. c6 Kc8 81. Rg3 Rb4+ 82. Kc5 Rh4 83. Rg8+ Kc7 84. Rg7+ Kc8 85. Kd6 Rd4+ 86. Ke6
Jul-01-22  cormier: depth=57 | Komodo 2901.00
+0.79 58... Rd4 59. Kxa5 Kc7 60. Kb5 Rd7 61. Kc4 Re7 62. Rg6 Re4+ 63. Kb5 b3 64. Rg7+ Kb8 65. Rg3 b2 66. Rb3 Re2 67. Kc6+ Kc8 68. Kd6 h5 69. h4 Rf2 70. Ke6 Kc7 71. Rb6 Rg2 72. Kxf6 Kd7 73. Kf7 Kc7 74. Ke6 Re2+ 75. Kf6 Rg2 76. Kf7 Kc8 77. f6 Kd7 78. Kf8 Rg6 79. c6+ Kc7 80. Rxb2 Rxf6+ 81. Kg7 Rd6 82. Rb5 Kxc6 83. Rxh5 Rd7+ 84. Kg6 Rd6+ 85. Kf7 Rd4 86. Rh7 Rd7+ 87. Kg6 Rd6+ 88. Kg5 Rd5+ 89. Kf4 Rd4+
Jul-01-22
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  harrylime: Fischer was KING back then

Itz bad enuff with all the HIKARU fanboize on ere ...

Geeeeez.

Jul-01-22  cormier: depth=59 | Komodo 2901.00
0.00 57... Rc4 58. c6 Rc3 59. Rd2 b3 60. Rg2 Rd3 61. Rg8+ Rd8 62. Rg7 Rd6 63. Rg8+ Rd8
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